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Old Nov 23, 2015, 08:14 PM
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Are these those type of questions that if I say "yes" to it I'm obviously not a sociopath because of course "Sociopaths think there is noting wrong with them."

Not self esteem, I'm having trouble functioning around my teacher in an "appropriate" manner because I want to hurt her really badly. I KNOW I won't harm myself. If I get the desire to hurt others and it's strong then I'll either do that or attempt to not harm someone. Considering I don't like jail, prison, or any type of consequences
Question: you question the previous responder if the response given is somehow meant to get you to admit you are not a sociopath - leads me to believe you either have already self-diagnosed yourself as a sociopath n take offense to the suggestion of the contrary, or for some reason you want to have the diagnosis of sociopath. Do you really want people to answer you or do you just want to argue? Seems go me perhaps you are the one trying to trip people up with their words and should really just get a professional to diagnose you.
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Old Nov 23, 2015, 10:09 PM
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Question: you question the previous responder if the response given is somehow meant to get you to admit you are not a sociopath - leads me to believe you either have already self-diagnosed yourself as a sociopath n take offense to the suggestion of the contrary, or for some reason you want to have the diagnosis of sociopath. Do you really want people to answer you or do you just want to argue? Seems go me perhaps you are the one trying to trip people up with their words and should really just get a professional to diagnose you.
Lol. That is literally what you and I were just talking about in the first place. I feel like I shouldn't have to seriously hurt someone in order for my parents to get me help. Oh wait because "Black people can't be mentally ill" right? I don't have to hear it. I know they think there's nothing wrong with me but I'm not okay with being like this.
I should not have to resort to drugs to feel something more than what I'm getting. But it's all good. I'll see how this runs out.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 04:48 AM
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At times I feel quite similarly to you Endless, and think your parents are really doing you a disservice by assuming mental health issues are culturally prejudiced.
Maybe try to find some aspd support online until you are old enough to be able to seek help for yourself, because I personally think it would be a tragedy for a young person to wind up in a ward or prison because the system failed them.
Perhaps exercises to work on self control might help, so you are less likely to act on those impulses?
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 02:02 PM
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At times I feel quite similarly to you Endless, and think your parents are really doing you a disservice by assuming mental health issues are culturally prejudiced.
Maybe try to find some aspd support online until you are old enough to be able to seek help for yourself, because I personally think it would be a tragedy for a young person to wind up in a ward or prison because the system failed them.
Perhaps exercises to work on self control might help, so you are less likely to act on those impulses?
Thank you. And I'm working on self-control. It's getting better but I don't like my thoughts, half the time that is, there's this one person who is making me obsessed with her, because the way I see it, she's challenging me. It might sound stupid but something about this woman is driving me insane and I already want to hurt her but I can't even begin to describe it.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 03:20 PM
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Maybe work on how you feel like she is challenging you? Reframe it so that she isn't more than an annoying fly is to a look. They don't get mad and waste their time killing flies, they just flick them off when they get too bothersome. So find ways to dismiss and thwart any challenging behavior from her that's the kind of thing that helped when i was finding that sort of thing hard, back in my teens lol
Just remember, that self control, self discipline, they are signs of true strength. So make them your goals, make powerful people with amazing self control, like wushu masters, make them your idols, ask yourself if they would waste their energy on something so trivial as a woman with an attitude problem (because they wouldn't, they would not give her the satisfaction and watch her self destruct or get over her attempts )
You can do this, I did, so I'm sure you can too
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 03:21 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 03:28 PM
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Maybe work on how you feel like she is challenging you? Reframe it so that she isn't more than an annoying fly is to a look. They don't get mad and waste their time killing flies, they just flick them off when they get too bothersome. So find ways to dismiss and thwart any challenging behavior from her that's the kind of thing that helped when i was finding that sort of thing hard, back in my teens lol
Just remember, that self control, self discipline, they are signs of true strength. So make them your goals, make powerful people with amazing self control, like wushu masters, make them your idols, ask yourself if they would waste their energy on something so trivial as a woman with an attitude problem (because they wouldn't, they would not give her the satisfaction and watch her self destruct or get over her attempts )
You can do this, I did, so I'm sure you can too
Lol, the problem is that she is nothing but respectful towards me. And she is my teacher. She's young and new and I can't pinpoint what it is that is driving me crazy. I have to actually stop myself from trying to manipulate her because I want to find her business out. I don't like manipulation so I try my best not to do it and it's hard with her.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 05:03 PM
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Yeah that's a bit trickier. Maybe you should start keeping a diary after every class you have with her and try to find out what triggers you to feel like that about her, it seems kind of like your mind considers her to be prey. Once you work out what the trigger is, you can work on redirecting it healthily
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 05:41 PM
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Yeah that's a bit trickier. Maybe you should start keeping a diary after every class you have with her and try to find out what triggers you to feel like that about her, it seems kind of like your mind considers her to be prey. Once you work out what the trigger is, you can work on redirecting it healthily
You just described that perfectly. That kinda is how my mind looks at her, like she's prey. Lol. I look at her and I instantly start smiling because I know how I want to do this. I Want to find out all of her personal secrets, her information, how she functions, her emotional triggers, anything I can because I want leverage over her for some reason. I want to have some type of power over her without her even noticing it. And it's hard for me to figure out why.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 06:17 PM
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Well now we know how it's working, time to work out why like I said, time for a journal. Make note of anything she does that makes that urge stronger or diminished, even a little. Then you can work on redirection from those triggers, finding things that aren't destructive, but that are enjoyable
Just keep reminding yourself that you can control this, you can keep it in check until you get to see a psych. Do you mind me asking how old you are and how much longer until you can go see doctors without your parents consent or supervision? Because they have tools far beyond what I do, I only have my own experience.
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 06:33 PM
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Well now we know how it's working, time to work out why like I said, time for a journal. Make note of anything she does that makes that urge stronger or diminished, even a little. Then you can work on redirection from those triggers, finding things that aren't destructive, but that are enjoyable
Just keep reminding yourself that you can control this, you can keep it in check until you get to see a psych. Do you mind me asking how old you are and how much longer until you can go see doctors without your parents consent or supervision? Because they have tools far beyond what I do, I only have my own experience.
Okay, I'll try that. Thank you
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Old Nov 24, 2015, 10:35 PM
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Are these those type of questions that if I say "yes" to it I'm obviously not a sociopath because of course "Sociopaths think there is noting wrong with them."

Not self esteem, I'm having trouble functioning around my teacher in an "appropriate" manner because I want to hurt her really badly. I KNOW I won't harm myself. If I get the desire to hurt others and it's strong then I'll either do that or attempt to not harm someone. Considering I don't like jail, prison, or any type of consequences
My intentions were not to judge or try to Dx you... I was mainly just wondering if your prime concern for therapy was: you felt something was wrong with you..... Worried about safety/ violence..... or your parents blantant disregard/denial of your issues?
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You need to go see a therapist whether your parents take you or not. Tell the guidance counselor at school that you are resisting an urge to hurt your teacher. They will help you. And your parents should find out.
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Old Nov 25, 2015, 01:28 PM
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My intentions were not to judge or try to Dx you... I was mainly just wondering if your prime concern for therapy was: you felt something was wrong with you..... Worried about safety/ violence..... or your parents blantant disregard/denial of your issues?
The first two.
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Old Nov 25, 2015, 01:29 PM
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You need to go see a therapist whether your parents take you or not. Tell the guidance counselor at school that you are resisting an urge to hurt your teacher. They will help you. And your parents should find out.
OH. My parents already know, Lol. Apparently they think I'm playing? When I so very clearly told my Mother how I planned on ****ing with my teacher's head.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 11:34 AM
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Lol. That is literally what you and I were just talking about in the first place. I feel like I shouldn't have to seriously hurt someone in order for my parents to get me help. Oh wait because "Black people can't be mentally ill" right? I don't have to hear it. I know they think there's nothing wrong with me but I'm not okay with being like this.
I should not have to resort to drugs to feel something more than what I'm getting. But it's all good. I'll see how this runs out.
Sorry, I have not been online much the past few days so haven't been answering forums.

Now - I think you possibly misunderstood what I was saying somewhat. You were asking the original respondent if the respondent was trying to somehow get you to admit you cannot be a psychopath.

Being that you seemed to placed so much emphasis on being or not being a psychopath I was under the impression you were wanting a diagnosis of psychopathy. It confused me as well as upset me a bit that you would respond in such an aggressive manner to the original respondent. It also concerned me because psychopathy is not a diagnosis that should be looked upon as somehow favorable - in fact no mental health disorder or illness should be looked upon that way. I have said nothing about black people, race has nothing to do with whether or not you can develop any kind of health problem and unless you mentioned it in this thread (which I don't recall you doing so) I would have no way of knowing anyway - so I have no clue where the racial slur innuendo comes from at all. I agree with you about you should not have to resort to drugs - sometimes simple conseling helps you uncover things you did not know were repressed and those were the things blicking your emotions, other times you need further treatment. I have been on pretty much each type of medication they can put me on for my problems n none of it really helps. I am now looking into more natural solutions. The point is - you have to find what is right for you. For now, yes, you will have to also let your parents handle your care - and I am aware of that. Your guidance counselor spoke to your parents about religion - but when it comes to something like neglecting your healthcare - your guidance counselor would insist upon you getting the care you need or else speak to the DHS to investigate for a case of neglect. Some schools you are able to talk to your school nurse about these things too not sure about yours.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 03:09 PM
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Sorry, I have not been online much the past few days so haven't been answering forums.

Now - I think you possibly misunderstood what I was saying somewhat. You were asking the original respondent if the respondent was trying to somehow get you to admit you cannot be a psychopath.

Being that you seemed to placed so much emphasis on being or not being a psychopath I was under the impression you were wanting a diagnosis of psychopathy. It confused me as well as upset me a bit that you would respond in such an aggressive manner to the original respondent. It also concerned me because psychopathy is not a diagnosis that should be looked upon as somehow favorable - in fact no mental health disorder or illness should be looked upon that way. I have said nothing about black people, race has nothing to do with whether or not you can develop any kind of health problem and unless you mentioned it in this thread (which I don't recall you doing so) I would have no way of knowing anyway - so I have no clue where the racial slur innuendo comes from at all. I agree with you about you should not have to resort to drugs - sometimes simple conseling helps you uncover things you did not know were repressed and those were the things blicking your emotions, other times you need further treatment. I have been on pretty much each type of medication they can put me on for my problems n none of it really helps. I am now looking into more natural solutions. The point is - you have to find what is right for you. For now, yes, you will have to also let your parents handle your care - and I am aware of that. Your guidance counselor spoke to your parents about religion - but when it comes to something like neglecting your healthcare - your guidance counselor would insist upon you getting the care you need or else speak to the DHS to investigate for a case of neglect. Some schools you are able to talk to your school nurse about these things too not sure about yours.

The racial slur came from me talking about my parents. Not anything the previous respondents or you said. Sorry about coming off like that. And I don't want the diagnosis of a sociopath or psychopath. I never brought up ASPD in the thread until you said I should take the quiz and see where I fall. I mean, I've had a lot of people say I'm a sociopath. But, I forgot what my point was. Oh, and I know you didn't say anything about black people. I'm talking about ME as a black person, not anything you or anyone else said. The idiotic misconception that African americans cant get sick in that way.

And I responded aggressively because there seems to be people who will ask questions like "If you this this this and that, and you said yes to it, then you're not a sociopath, psychopath, narcissist, borderline." Or insert whatever mental illness someone is dealing with. That was an example, btw.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 03:10 PM
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My intentions were not to judge or try to Dx you... I was mainly just wondering if your prime concern for therapy was: you felt something was wrong with you..... Worried about safety/ violence..... or your parents blantant disregard/denial of your issues?
I shouldn't have come off as aggressive as I did, I thought you were about to say something "smart" smart as in something rude. Thank you for your input and I apologize.
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Old Nov 28, 2015, 05:25 PM
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The racial slur came from me talking about my parents. Not anything the previous respondents or you said. Sorry about coming off like that. And I don't want the diagnosis of a sociopath or psychopath. I never brought up ASPD in the thread until you said I should take the quiz and see where I fall. I mean, I've had a lot of people say I'm a sociopath. But, I forgot what my point was. Oh, and I know you didn't say anything about black people. I'm talking about ME as a black person, not anything you or anyone else said. The idiotic misconception that African americans cant get sick in that way.

And I responded aggressively because there seems to be people who will ask questions like "If you this this this and that, and you said yes to it, then you're not a sociopath, psychopath, narcissist, borderline." Or insert whatever mental illness someone is dealing with. That was an example, btw.
Misunderstandings happen, so no worries there- I am just glad we got it cleared up . As far as what you said about some people thinking if you do this you cannot have that- there are certain cases where that is true but you are correct in saying in most cases it is not true. This is part of the reason a professional needs to be the one to diagnose you. I brought up the test because you were saying you felt no emotion - and I felt it may give you something to start with, but even that does not diagnose you - it just tells you the likelihood. There are other things that can cause lack of emotion as I said to you just a bit ago - but I felt you were concerned about something that focused on lack of emotions rather than lack of emotions being a symptom. Honestly I have never heard it said that black people cannot have a certain mental health problem. I do hope you are able to find the help you are looking for and I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Sometimes it helps to think of the possible consequences of
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To elaborate: harming the teacher is an urge. You are in control of you.

If you acted on that urge, what would the consequences be? Risk versus Reward

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Lastly, let's pretend your urge was satisfied. Will a new homicidal urge emerge soon? Probably.

Stay true to yourself and be you. That's all you can do. xo

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To elaborate: harming the teacher is an urge. You are in control of you.

If you acted on that urge, what would the consequences be? Risk versus Reward

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