Is this how most people are?

Lol....I doubt that people like this even want to be diagnosed with anything until their ways end up costing them more than they get.

The home care person RAN when the police started snooping around. When you like how you are & are using people & gaining from it....why bother knowing one's issues if there is no desire to learn from them & change?

Glad there are some rare breeds out there so you don't think all women are dumb & naive & easily lied to. What you call us intelligent colder women aren't colder at all we just learned to use both our logical & emotional mind in mindfullness to see big pictures & logic to detect & determine how to react.... we are anything but cold.....we are just WISE. I learned to detect BS from a very young age.

Oh please. Women are in this world to add value and fun to our lives really. Those rare examples which offer resistance are usually not worth it. But when they are then their brain in most cases will receive a very delicate melody which I will play on it. My mind can truly be irresistible when I want something. You know how some men can be I guess.

You sound very much like my ex T. It's sad that you just use people and throw them away afterward. Doesn't sound normal to me. I don't think you really care if you are normal or not. Just an observation on my part.

Where were you when I needed your wisdom Eskie?

I am glad there aren't that many around like you & NO woman are NOT just around to add value & fun to someone's life.

You are right.....they aren't worth it TO YOU because they refuse to play your pathetic mind games & are too smart to be used by the likes of people like you.

Probably developing that wisdom but I have ALWAYS had a gut feel for people who are like this. I learned not to believe anything anyone said without fact checking growing up with my parents & that skill was reinforced by who I married...you don't fight BS for 54 years without learning something no matter how smooth they talk. A wolf in sheeps clothing is still a wolf.

I see you're having fun with this thread inaccurate. That's why you started it, didn't you? :-)

I'm genuinely curious as to what kind of **** you had to deal with in your life to make you the way you are.

Other people might hate on me for what I'm about to say, but I honestly think that if you had a messed up childhood or had a lot of horrible things happen to you, than you might not be entirely to blame for your behavior.

Humans are animals. All animals adapt to their surroundings to survive. That is the law of the jungle after all. Survival of the fittest is really all that matters in this world. You either survive or die. You either become the master or the servant. That's how nature works.


So no, I don't fault you. If anything, I think you're normal in the "purest" sense of the word. All humans are fighting to survive and all humans use others (some more than others) to survive and get ahead in life. The only difference between you and other people is that you're self aware. You use that self awareness to your advantage.


If anything, I envy you. I wish I was as good at manipulating as you. Probably the only thing that keeps me from charming and manipulating people like you claim to do is that I am more on the socially awkward side of things. Holding a normal conversation is tiring to me. It's not that I don't understand people; because I do. It's simply because I don't have the patience to deal with people and their issues and drama.

Still though, despite the fact that I really don't feel much of anything; empathy included, I still try to be a half decent person (or at least appear to be one) so people like me. Being nice to people, from my experience, is a better tool for manipulating, than using people. If anything, talking about this reminds me of a quote from the book "48 laws of power" by Robert Greene; "Be nice to somebody so they might benefit you later".

Just my 2c no matter how controversial it might be.

I have never liked other human beings tbh. In the kindergarten I used to be a reserved kid with just one "friend". I viewed other kids as "ugly repulsive things". I wasnt bullied or abused on any level by any of them but I knew I was way more intelligent than any of them simply by hearing all the crap they were saying and thinking "can they be anymore stupid"? that one friend I had was also quite trashy but he lived very close to me so for some reason I used to hang out with him.

I was a good, "obedient" kid til ,y 14th bday when something switched inside of me. I picked up smoking and needed money, first I used to steal fruit and veggies from peasants (not too large quantities) and then Id sell them to people. Then I figured out that I needed more money ending up in me stealing 3 gold rings from my overcaring grandmother. My logic was that there were dozens of rings in that jewelry box and that it wouldnt be noticed. And I was right; it was noticed years later and blamed on construction company workers who might had access to it. I still dont regret doing this btw; it was a pure rush of adrenaline to steal those rings and to sell them for scrap.

I havent been law obedient for as much as I can get away from since then. Never been jailed or even questioned for anything though

I keep an internal database of EVERY relevant sentence any of my contacts has ever had. My memory is beyond excellent and I remember a lot of tiny details in every conversation. Having this database allows me to build a psychological profile of the contact; his strengths and weaknesses; what he or she really wants in life and what kind of a dream I can sell to this person so that his or her psyche starts associating me with certain things. The main weapon here is showing authority and knowledge of certain things.

Here is the thing: most people are retards who look at the society and behave accordingly, obviously such limited people can not possibly lead or even maintain a great conversation.

Im 41 and do you know how many unusual, interesting and especially challenging people I have met during my adult life? half a dozen at the most. My childhood excluded.

My default mask when Im in public is that of a very nice, helpful guy. A bit sad yet usually funny, unpredictable and mysterious. Being nice to others is the very foundation of my way of life and of my way of viewing things. By not being nice one can lay the ground of a future relationship, no matter what kind of a relationship I mean.

Ya I know most people are idiots. When I was a kid, I found that I couldn't relate to most kids because I was smarter than a lot of them. I was told that I had a genius IQ when I was about 7 or 8. IDK how true that is since my mother was a chronic liar, but I was at minimum well above average.

As an adult, I call most people "sheeple". They do what they are told like good little robots and believe all of the lies by the mainstream media tells them. All I see in the vast majority of people is this: go to school and get good grades, then go to work, then get married, then have kids, then get old and die. Anybody who does things any different is treated like **** by the masses. I get a lot of crap from people because I am lazy and hate working and being told what to do by authority figures that are dumber than me all for a measly paycheck that isn't even worth it. I don't want kids because they would take time from things that I want to do and I don't plan on going to university because why would I when I can make as much or more money with less work dropshipping cheap Chinese goods on the internet?

Still though, I prefer to simply avoid people whenever possible. Most people are not worth my time or energy to even talk to for me. I keep maybe 3 or 4 intelligent people that think like me in my life and keep everybody else at a distance. I honestly care too little about most people to even want to manipulate or use them.

It's nice having intelligent conversation with somebody though I honestly doubt that the majority of people on here understand or care about me even though they act like they do so it's w/e at this point lol.

A few years ago I solved the issue of having intelligent conversations. I met a what appeared to be a copy of me in a pc game and got catfished VERY badly but its fine, lesson learned. It was a guy pretending to be a girl rofl but he showed me the way to play with very intelligent people.

I have a female profile on several dating sites, my girl is above average looking but she is not a model; she is a typical "cute every day girl".

For the rest I have created a real femme fatale lol; she is VERY erudite, very sensual, ultra sweet; very delicate and at times she can be very vulnerable as well. If a man starts chatting to her then he gets lost in conversations and falls in love, providing great fun for me The only problem here is that most guys on dating sites are commoners, so it takes 100s of short conversations to see whether the person has a highly developed abstract thinking and imagination.

But it allows me to maintain sufficient intelligent chat partners while lying about my gender.

The "script" of the catfishing movie (and I see it as a movie where the interested men are viewers without realizing it lol) is something like this: out of nowhere a totally stunning girl arrives and takes the guys psyche on another level. (only those guys who are worth it get a long exposure to my girl). When the man becomes addicted to this highly unusual girl who appeared in his life: the girl tests the addiction and his level of interest all the time so I know where the victim is emotionally and slowly the movie of the hooked viewer is watching becomes more and more a nightmare as the girl shows more and more red flags but the viewer can not walk away; he is stunned since he has never talked to such an unusual girl in his life. As their psyche keeps deteriorating and when they start crying for this fictional girl; its then when great conversations generally occur. I know this sounds complex but its totally doable and is great fun

I admit, I did this some year back in an online game as well. Had a female character that I put a lot of work into making her as hot as possible. Also had a reputation of being one of the best players on my server at the time. This got people into me because a lot of guys are turned on by a hot girl gamer with actual skill (I mean, lets face it, a lot of girls are trash at video games haha). It later came to the point where there was a guild with well over 200 people obsessed with me and wanted me, thinking that I was actually this pro hot female gamer. I acted the part too, learned to adapt my typing to sound more feminine.


Also made really good money off that game too because I took over the server's economy on end game crafting enhancements (with some help from people that found my character so attractive but also my own work) and became a gold seller. Had a system where I was making an extra $200-300 a week off selling MMO currency off maybe a few hours of extra work a week which was awesome while it lasted. Fun times haha

Also, IDK if you ever played Diablo 2 back in the day, but I also used to be one of those people that would dupe items and sell the duped items on Chinese goldseller forums. I was 9 or 10 at the time (I was a computer wiz at a young age and I'm a self taught hacker), and I would make a killing doing it. I learned how to open a stealthed PayPal account under fake info to accept payments and bypass age restrictions. Made really good money until mother caught on to what I was doing.

But yeah, on the occasion that I do manipulate, I am typically motivated by money and not what people think of me. I'm somebody that hates and dreads working a regular job (lets face it, jobs are torture and pretty much legalized slavery) and desires a way to support myself without having to work a normal job. I have developed more than one legit way to make a comfortable living, however, I'm not above manipulating people for money if there aren't any viable alternative means to get my needs met.

After all, I am somebody that firmly believes that society owes me thanks to my mother and the mental health system abusing me most of my life. I want the childhood that I never had as a child and I'll sink to any low to get my precious childhood back.

"Wow! I'm so impressed by your extraordinary skills and intellect! You definitely have a right to be proud of yourself. All of us could learn from you, but obviously we're too stupid. "
I'm sorry for you.
Anyway, it's a very interesting reading about the mind of a narcissist. If it's true, of course.

well it sounds like these were mostly gamers. many of them are lonely and are even incels. Its easy to attract their attention but my char prefers a challenge, like married guys and well educated good looking guys who have a lot of choice.

My char is so irresistible to higher IQ guys that its scary, they drown in it and forget their lives and previous personalities during the first few weeks of interacting with my char. She is everything they have ever sought in a woman with a truckload of mystery around it. Slowly their brains start going in overdrive while the girl becomes sweeter and sweeter yet more and more elusive. My girl isnt only stunning in every possible way but she is also "everything and nothing", she can discuss everything and nothing; on any level really and the more the guy talks to her to more interested he becomes. The girl is utterly sweet and sensual; yet she has no personality; she is simply an actress in a movie thats constantly adapts to you and keeps giving you deeps scans to know where your psyche is at or what point of being in love has the guy reached inside his brain.

My girl is utter fluid that forms itself around the guys brain; by that I mean that when the guy tries to analyze her; to figure out what kind of a personality she has, he finds (and he cant explain it or see it of course) utter emptiness, like endless dark space full of nothing. It irritates all of them, that they are unable "to feel" the girl or predict any of her moves.

I do it for control and for my artistic side which has always wanted to be a movie producer. And here using this method I show my creation to very intelligent guys, its extremely addictive I must say and I honestly could not live without doing it for an hour a day at least. Also there is nothing more adrenalinish to have an unusual fish on your chat list and to make him first become in awe of this girl and then to show him what it is to cry and to become insane lol.

Again: my girl is pure perfection, I wonder whether there is a more seductive and suffocating virtual personality out there that can match Mary



D2 was a major money maker but I played it before these chinese places came to the scene and ruined it all lol. I was doing constant magic runs to ebay items that Id find, just to give u an example of pricing when LoD just came out and these prices had lasted for months! Windforce hydra bow on ebay: up to 1500 USD ;P
When there was a working method then Id dupe and sell in chat channels and on ebay but these periods never lasted for longer than a few days.

Oh man, those were the days. Item duping and corpse popping other players and stealing their gear was where it was at (especially the cocky assholes who want to talk **** like they're better than me at video games). Also another old school game that I played that you could make a killing off was Ultima Online. I used to be a PvPer on that game and go to the PvP realm and gank other players and loot their bodies. I had an OP archer/Paladin hybrid character that nobody could take. I would snipe them from a distance. If they were able to get close to me and damage me, guess what mother****er I am a ****ing Paladin too I can heal LOL. Pissed a lot of people off on that game. OFC then WoW had to come out and kill that game.


I would kill to have gaming return to how it was in the late 90s lol. It's insane that people would pay over 1 grand for an item in a video game. I took full advantage of what I could as a 9 year old. Unfortunately, having 4-6 grand in a PayPal account as a 9 year old when your mother is barely making enough to pay rent raises a lot of questions.

Oh and my biggest regret in life was way later when I did all that goldselling I was telling you about earlier. I earned a lot of money off controlling markets across 2 MMO games. I traded a lot of money into Bitcoin back when Bitcoin was worth $100 per BTC. If I would have saved my Bitcoin instead of buying a gaming rig with it, I would be a millionaire now.

But yeah, I guess I can understand why you build up alternative characters to draw people in like you do. In a way, doing so is not all that dissimilar to playing a video game; the girl is your character and the people you're trying to attract is the objective of the game. I see nothing wrong with what you do. You have a need that needs to be filled and building up your girl is the most viable way to get your needs met. Most of PC might not agree with me, but I'm not one to judge people based on their way of surviving in this world. We all have our methods and we all hurt people in life no matter if we intend to or not.

If there is one thing I have learned in my life though, it's that getting help the "normal" way (I.E therapy, medication, ECT) isn't always a viable option for people. Not everybody can be helped the same way. Yeah, maybe if you're a normie or you haven't had a completely screwed up life, therapy would work. For the rest of us, we have limited options for survival and achieving any kind of happiness.

It's nice talking to you though. Hit me up anytime if you wanna chat.

Reading this post is like reading about the things narcissists say and do to be honest with you. You interact with others for your own selfish reasons, what others can do to benefit you. You also prefer to have all the control in relationships too. If you don't believe me then read about narcissists and compare that with what you shared here.

Look up psychopaths too, you are showing the criteria for these individuals more so then the typical run of the mill narcissist. They typically find narcissists useful, and they realize that the best way to get a narcissist is to flatter them and often the most pleasure comes from finally discarding a narcissist, while they are cunning and smart their weakness is flattery and psychopaths rather especially enjoy playing with them but especially enjoy breaking them and tossing them too. Also, psychopaths tend to find other human beings repulsive and disposable as you have described how you felt when you were younger.

In all your posts you have clearly shown you have no empathy. This is a part of your brain that is underdeveloped so you will never feel love nor will being loved be anything that you benefit from either. You never really feel pleasure either, just something fleeting that is only experienced when besting someone else the way you have described you practice.

So, the answer to your main question that you presented as your thread title, the answer is most people are NOT the way you have described yourself being. Perhaps you should read about them.

Characteristics of Psychopathic Personalities

Doesn't have to read about them since he knows himself & his behaviors so well.

Its not about hurting them imo, its about mentoring them because the best changes in ones psyche usually happen under severe stress. Its where people discover who they truly are. And my char discovers that as well, "how deep is this guy?" "is he going to react to me saying that I wont be around for the evening since Im having a visitior".. Its like the game of chess vs one's psyche; or with other words as you rightfully said it yourself "as everything in life". And let me assure you: a good; long; deep game and the psychological connection established during the process can be quite entertaining and interesting as well

for me its quite simple: therapists ALWAYS try to limit your freedoms by making you think about certain things. I mean going to a therapist is just not my thing really. Also therapy doesnt work on me; same with by far most commercials. When I watch a commercial I always try to grade it for originality, creativity etc but not for the product itself. Same here I guess; I would be more interested in hearing why some guy sits there charging €60 an hour (I live in the Eurozone) while pretending to give a **** lol

Well I can be extremely delicate as well and in fact I can genuinely feel connection with very rare type of girls.

Flattery is lame and I use this weapon only rarely when I think its the best weapon to use in that particular situation but then again its rare and its not something from my main arsenal. Someone who flatters others more than very rarely is giving away a tell imo. "I want something from you"; giving this tell away can compromise the entire setup. So Im very sorry but your assumption about me using it all the time is wrong.

Inaccurate, I am not diagnosing you, and am not a professional. My input is just my opinion of what "could be" based on what I have read etc. You don't need to convince me about things that do or don't fit either. You know yourself better than I ever could.

Oh man, I couldn't agree more, both on therapist and commercials. Last time I tried therapy, it didn't go over so well for me. I didn't want to do the work because it's boring af and I would rather spend my time doing things I want to do. I mean, what would you rather do in your time? Write a boring journal or play a video game? Not to mention, I am more self aware than most so I can guarantee that no therapist isn't going to tell me something I don't already know about myself.

As for commercials, I know they're all B.S. Fact of the matter is we need stupid people to buy stupid crap for society to function. I'm not one of those stupid people that can be swayed by a commercial. I mean, if you want me to buy something, give me some hard evidence that it would serve my purposes or GTFO. If anything, I am more prone to getting pissed at the commercial for daring to interrupt what I was doing. I can't tell you how many times I was streaming music on Pandora and an ad that was clearly made for the lowest common denominator of human stupidity interrupts me and I feel a sudden urge to throw my phone against a wall lol

my point was that it takes the mind of a commoner to accept so called therapy where some guy tries to make you sad and limit you. The same type of a commoner who allows the commercials to influence his or her decisions.

Just to set things straight in your post above, for some reason it says originally posted by Open Eyes, that is incorrect, what is quoted was not anything I posted but instead was DarknessIsMyFriend's post.