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Old Oct 19, 2014, 08:04 PM
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She's gotten timeout today for being badly behaved literally 27 times today. Whenever I put her in timeout she hits me until I scold her to stop then she just sits there and cries. I am talking to her therapist first thing in the morning.
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 09:10 PM
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Have you heard of "time-in"? I wish I could explain it better than this, but basically you have the child sit beside you on the sofa or maybe a chair for you and a chair for her side by side. If she won't stay you can hold her in time-in. It is generally recommended over time-out for traumatized children. I am going to google and try to get a better explanation for you. If the therapist has worked with other troubled children she should have knowledge of time-in. Hugs to you, you need some easier days
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Old Oct 19, 2014, 09:20 PM
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This is a decent explanation: weinholds.org/time-in-techniques/
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 07:41 AM
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i know things are so tough with her....stay strong...there is a little girl under that fighter who wants to behave....you guys can find her together...
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 08:39 AM
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found a few good links...

Effective Discipline | Attachment Parenting International

Disciplining Your Child
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 09:31 AM
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These links have some great ideas that are more specific to neglected/abused children rather than just general parenting guidelines...tried to copy + paste some of the highlights...the formatting doesn't match

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/parenting_CAN.pdf

Kempe Family Resources and Tips

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/f_abused/f_abused.pdf

http://www.aap.org/en-us/advocacy-an...ilyHandout.pdf

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Usual parenting practices may not work. So, be careful! First, know and respect that your child may perceive and respond to the world in ways that you do not....

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Learn to notice and avoid (or lessen) “triggers.” Find out what distracts or makes your child anxious. Work to lessen these things.

Set up a routine for your child so she knows what to expect.

Give your child a sense of control. Give simple choices.

Respect your child’s decisions.

Do not take your child’s behaviors personally.

Try to stay calm. Find ways to respond to outbursts that do not make things worse. Lower your voice. Do not yell or show aggression. Do not stare or look directly at your child for too long. Some children see this as a threat.

When your child keeps you at a distance, stay available and responsive.

When you can, stay away from discipline that uses physical punishment. For a child who was abused, this may cause panic and out-of-control behavior.

Let your child feel the way she feels. Teach your child words to describe her feelings. Show acceptable ways for her to deal with feelings. Then, praise her for expressing her feelings or calming down.

Be patient. It may have taken years of trauma or abuse to get the child in his current state of mind. Learning to trust again is not likely to happen overnight—or any time soon.

Be consistent, predictable, caring, and patient.

Teach your child that others can be trusted to stay with him and help him.

Ask for help when you have concerns, questions, or are struggling. There are proven therapies to help children and parents adjust to trauma’s
effects. You do not have to do this by yourself
I understand these are so much easier said than done....I believe in you and I know you are strong!
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Old Oct 20, 2014, 05:27 PM
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I'm glad she is physically doing better. You need outside help stat. There should be social works, therapists and psychiatrists involved at this point. Her issues are way beyond any regular person's experiences.

Good luck and hang in there.
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Remember that it's basically Square 1 again as she was in the hospital for so long.

Which means that any progress you made with behaviour, routines, and rules has gone out the window. Plus, she may even be angry and blame you for the fact that she was in the hospital (obviously you are NOT to blame, but she might link the fact that you were the adult at the time she went in the hospital as being the one to blame, she's too young to know any better than that).

What sorts of things has she done that got her into trouble 27 times? Perhaps the rules are too much for her, too many to comprehend at once?
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 08:35 AM
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She's being so bad. She is getting in trouble for hurting me -actually make me bleed-, not laying down at nap time, telling me to shut up, drawing on the floor and wall, ripping books and other things.
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Remember that it's basically Square 1 again as she was in the hospital for so long.

Which means that any progress you made with behaviour, routines, and rules has gone out the window. Plus, she may even be angry and blame you for the fact that she was in the hospital (obviously you are NOT to blame, but she might link the fact that you were the adult at the time she went in the hospital as being the one to blame, she's too young to know any better than that).

What sorts of things has she done that got her into trouble 27 times? Perhaps the rules are too much for her, too many to comprehend at once?
She's being so bad. She is getting in trouble for hurting me -actually make me bleed-, not laying down at nap time, telling me to shut up, drawing on the floor and wall, ripping books and other things.
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 12:42 PM
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has she calmed down at all?
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 07:14 PM
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PTSD and Children | Psych Central

here's PC's article about ptsd and kids
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Old Oct 21, 2014, 09:23 PM
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PTSD and Children | Psych Central

here's PC's article about ptsd and kids
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[QUOTE=livelaughlove22;4058453]She's gotten timeout today for being badly behaved literally 27 times today. Whenever I put her in timeout she hits me until I scold her to stop then she just sits there and cries. I am talking to her therapist first thing in the morning.[/QUOTE

Perhaps, since she just got out of the hospital two days previous to your posting, she needed to rest...

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Old Oct 23, 2014, 12:02 PM
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Not all children need naps. Some do better with just a bit of quiet time instead.

I'd recommend moving special things out of arm's reach, so they can't get torn or hurt. Buy washable crayons, and throw the others away (or set them aside to color with together or as a reward). Go to your local library together, for toddler time or to borrow a book or two, as a reward for being good.

I know that it's really hard, but ask if she'd like a hug when she becomes upset. It works though! Don't wait until your girl is furious before you try these tips. The best think to do is to start them right off the bat, before emotions are skyrocketed. Sometimes, we have to repeat as well. Just one hug isn't going to cover it in an emotional moment. Talking about the core issue really does help. I struggled with my older daughter until she was around 9 y.o., due to her resentment towards me for lots of changes in our world. A lot of the tips I'm giving to you are changes that I've had to make myself.
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Old Oct 23, 2014, 05:13 PM
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Not all children need naps. Some do better with just a bit of quiet time instead.

I'd recommend moving special things out of arm's reach, so they can't get torn or hurt. Buy washable crayons, and throw the others away (or set them aside to color with together or as a reward). Go to your local library together, for toddler time or to borrow a book or two, as a reward for being good.

I know that it's really hard, but ask if she'd like a hug when she becomes upset. It works though! Don't wait until your girl is furious before you try these tips. The best think to do is to start them right off the bat, before emotions are skyrocketed. Sometimes, we have to repeat as well. Just one hug isn't going to cover it in an emotional moment. Talking about the core issue really does help. I struggled with my older daughter until she was around 9 y.o., due to her resentment towards me for lots of changes in our world. A lot of the tips I'm giving to you are changes that I've had to make myself.

Shes a super girly girl, so she loves getting her nails and hair done as her rewards. Thanks for the tips!
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Are the therapists offering in home services, at this juncture?
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Old Oct 27, 2014, 10:14 PM
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Are the therapists offering in home services, at this juncture?


She is going to start to.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 04:00 AM
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She is going to start to.
I have a friend, who's child receives IHT, In Home Therapy, on top of outside services, in an office, and her child has an IEP designed that actually, of all things, focuses on her childs anxiety disorder(and the rest of the dx.... CPTSD is one discussion) . The important thing, is she's proactive in getting her child the help, that her child needs. My friend has her own mh stuff, and is fearful of her child going the sh route, in life. Child is young, 7/8 or so.

How's your own therapy going? It's not easy raising an over anxious child, that has the markings of CPTSD. ...
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