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^^This.

Is why no one interesting ever comes around here.

Of course, you don't reference yourself.

You're not a bit interesting but please...feel free to 'not come around here' anymore. I'll hold the door.

My sentiments exactly.

I won't abandon this sinking ship. As alpha narcissist I am its Captain. I will rescue the forum.

But not tonight. I have other pressing urgent matters to attend to.

Like talking to yourself until even YOU get bored? You won't be gone for that long.

Look, Shaytanica, this forum is dead. If you want my help to revive it you will keep civil fingers on the keyboard. I am willing to help you out of the goodness of my heart, but if you persist in tedium and inanity I can easily decide to leave this place as desolate as I found it. Then what would become of you? Don't test that theory, I'm warning you.

I am covert or inverted - how one wants to say it. I find it very hard not to responde to typical and underground - how ever i have no desire to get close to you. Its part of who i am to be attracted by classis narcs. To you, i have no desire. If it means anything - i dont personally care if you leave.

I like you, Walkingaround! I think you and I could go places...

Well said. Of course, take comfort that she isn't a 'classic narc' or even a 'well versed in waiting to be a wannabe narc' .... She's just a dullard with an empty plate and no one to fill it.

If this is to be the Titanic, one hopes she decides to be a good little rat and scurry away quickly. We can muddle along quite successfully without her direction....if that is, in fact, what she calls it.

For myself, I call it arrogance buffered by insecurity. In any case, it's remarkably boring.

Shaytanica requests your help?????? If you decide to leave???? The foot in the buttocks didn't clue you out????

Teacake - do you feel that you enjoy negative attention? I feel like you do. Otherwise you probably would have shut up along time ago.

I'm histrionic myself and acknowledge that I do enjoy negative and positive attention. Out of all the PD forums I've always found myself as home with the narcissists more even though I am not even diagnosed with narcissistic traits or features whatever the **** it's called.

If you're on these forums though you shouldn't use them as a release for disordered behavior all the time though. Perhaps you should consider if healing and recovery is the right thing for you right now. Or maybe you can sit back and lurk to gain some awareness before posting.

Instead of coming here and mocking people for their desire to gain self awareness/coming around being the "alpha" but really it's just a guise for your need to release your disordered behavior. The only thing I see you alpha is for negative attention.

Good luck.

I can see that by the way you have avoided posting on this thread.

I absolutely agree, and also add that her pretension and hypocritical comments in another thread (in this forum) about a poster she felt was insulting, show's she is quite the pathetic. In fact, even stated she was going to 'report' the thread for the insulting statements she inferred as such.

Yet, in this and other threads she has reveled in snarky, thoughtless comments for no other reason than to insult and gain attention.

Perhaps someone should point out...narcissists are so alluring and easily able to get the attention they crave because they KNOW how to do it...and insulting people would ultimately (and very quickly) starve them.

You're not a narc, Tea...you're just an ***hole. I don't know if it's in the DSM, but there IS a difference. Feel free to google.

Somewhere else.

I have not mocked anyone's desire for self awareness. Nor have I interrupted or derailed any discussion of narcissism.

If is not my fault that I am the alpha narcissist carrying the entire forum which to my horror is now all about me.

One of the main differences between NPD and HPD is that narcissist's need positive attention and histrionics will take anything.

Histrionics are saying pay attention to me! I exist! I'm a person.
And narcissists are saying you're paying attention to me because I am great.

That doesn't say that a histrionic doesn't have the ability to solicit positive attention like a narcissist and some don't. But they have the ability to obtain that positive attention. I know I do.

NPD have more structure I think and dedication. Histrionics are less rigid, free spirits.

But they're not completely different and neither is superior to the other.

I approve that this became an educational discussion! I've always been curious how they differentiated between histrionic PD & narcissistic PD. Especially when it comes to the gender bias. I've never been called histrionic &, if they're to be believed, I always seem to score low in that regard. Even lower than Borderline -- which I also haven't been dx'ed with through some miracle of nature! So it's interesting how they both feed from others, but where the difference is. Thank you for that.

I don't really think there's a gender bias between NPD and HPD though there could be. The clinical presentation of the disorder I think is totally different than NPD. If you're not trained to distinguish these characteristics they probably can blend. i've been called every disorder in the book and I get malignant narc - worse than the actual narcs because some of my taboo ideas a lot

I don't think there's a gender bias in diagnosing anything. There's a reason why there's different disorders. Some disorders just happen to naturally be higher in one gender than the other. I've spoken with a few diagnosed male histrionics. They exist

I've also heard females are usually diagnosed with borderline over antisocial. Well there's me. At one point I was being considered for full blown AsPD

I had self harm cuts from trying it and that usually gets you automatically diagnosed with borderline apparently from a piece someone sent me and I don't have that in my dx. It's never even been in my differential

Maybe the next person to see me (because there will probably be a next time) will diagnose me with borderline because histrionic doesn't exist anymore. But I have as much of my records as places are willing to give me and in them it said something about me claiming to not feel emotions and intensely as I display them. My display of emotions can be very dramatic but I don't feel them. The last thing I want is a borderline + antisocial diagnosis. That's a bad one to have

So if a histrionic belongs anywhere I guess it's in borderline or narcissist but personally I have more problems that a narcissist would have. relationship problems a narcissist would have because I get bored, I'm not loyal and stuff like that

Sorry for all the personal blabber I know no one likes to read that but I do have a taste for being admired for my brain *puts nerdy glasses on*
Just kidding - I like educating the curious I guess because our only other histrionic is in the dark

Teacake you shouldn't let anyone on these forums diagnose you with anything but all I'm saying is that you should use this forum to your healing.

The problem with cluster B's and most PD's really is that there tends to be a very fine line between them.

The vast majority of them share traits and cross over in so many places that you may as well just diagnose someone by cluster.

Actually on my last referral the diagnosis was written as cluster B disorder with NPD traits.

Apparently full blown BPD is nowhere near as important as having some narcissistic traits.

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