My thought

I was sitting here thinking about this and the more I think about it the more I think I'm right..... we are what we like to think of ourselves as people, but we are not really people, we are all some sort of energy floating in something bigger..... like the way the planet's are floating in that thing we call space.... we have no real purpose or meaning, we are just there..... we are given thoughts and memories but they are not real.... everything we think is just a lie and we are not really living the way we think we do.

I have yet to figure out why it is like this and what we are here for, but it will come to me.

While I agree that we are all energy floating about..... I feel differently than you do on us not having a purpose here in life.... as I feel that we all have a purpose and it is when we find that purpose in this life we have been given (taken upon our self) that we fulfill our place of being as a human being.

I feel that I will return to my true self - a spiritual energy self - when I fulfill my purpose here on earth.

((( hugs )))

But that is what it wants you to think and that is okay...... we were all given different thoughts and beliefs.

I agree..... as we all have our own path to follow and each is different.
If I may ask? - what is the IT you talk about?

Marduk

Marduk was the God who defeated the Ancient Ones long before the creation of matter as we know it. Against him in battle were the fierce TIAMAT, KINGU, and AZAG-THOTH. Once he had destroyed these demons, he created the universe from the flesh of TIAMAT, and humanity from the blood of KINGU mixed with his own breath.

Here is an interesting thought from Irvin Yalom's book "The Gift of Therapy", from chapter 44 'Talk About Life Meaning':

"We humans appear to be meaning-seeking creatures who have had the misfortune of being thrown into a world devoid of meaning. One of our major tasks is to invent a meaning sturdy enough to support a life and to perform the tricky maneuver of denying our personal authorship of this meaning. Thus we conclude instead that it was 'out there' waiting for us. Our oncoing search for substantial meaning systems often throws us into crises of meaning."

Jayz, is this from a game or some kind of religion or a book? Or are you just making this up? If you are not getting fanatical about this, or paranoid or depressed, then I guess this is cool if it helps you.

It does sound a wee bit... schizcophrenic, imo - the way I'm "hearing" this from you. So if it is causing you to feel strange, hear voices, see visions, become fanatic, parnoid, depressed, suspcious or obsessed, I would suggest you go seek medical health immediately.

I hope you are fine and just have an over active imagination or found a really cool way to find meaning in your life.

Hi Pom, two things:

If Jay were having any of those symptoms, how would we ever tell whether his musings were causing the symptoms, the result of them, or utterly independent of them?

(That said, if Jay were having the symptoms you describe, seeking help would of course be a good idea.)

Why not? It has to be some way, and this way sounds as good to me as any.

Seriously, I (seriously) support you in your investigation of these matters.

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Can you say existential? How about ontology?

Hey Fooze, scientifically speaking you are correct of course. I was just speaking of the latter - IF he's having those symptoms.

I have some close schizophrenic friends, and taking Jayz words without any context, they could sound schizophrenic-ish, as they do to me. I just want Jayz to be okay and not be in any danger, or seriously ill and not be aware of it. I'm no doctor and never claim to be professionally proficient in the mental health area, I just want to be helpful if I'm able. I've lived with mental illness all my life and have lots of negative experience. Such as not seeking treatment when I so obviously should have, thus getting sicker and sicker until I ended up suicidal and making attempts or so delusional in my thinking that people around me were looking at me as the proverbial "crazy" person. Hard on the self esteem. I don't wish that on anyone else.

I already knew you were a good-hearted lady, Pom, and of course you were speaking out of concern for Jay.

I stepped in mostly to remind you (and maybe Jay, if he even needs any such reminder) not to let that existential/ontological/mystical stuff freak you out too much. I happen to be at home with it myself and know (or at least know of) many others who are, too. I'm sure many more would think we were plumb nuts if we were to say too much about it in the wrong place.

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Q: Why is there something, and not nothing?
A: Because if there were nothing, we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Hi Pomegranate, no need to worry.... I think like this all the time.... your list is me, but I am not fanatic.

Thank you for support Fool Zero

Thank you for your concern Pom, I am aware of the way I am and have been for the past 6 or 7 years.... but like you have never got help.... but I am now, just waiting for my psychiatric assessment to be done.

You are right, but is already to late for me.