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(((((((((((((SuperMom Lynn and her Lucky Kids)))))))))))))))))
Wow! I'm so glad everyone is okay and I hope they find the dogs soon. |
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Thank you ((Thine self untrue)) for your kinds words. I feel proud that I protected my daughter but this incident really drained me. When I finally came inside, I had to lay on the couch because I felt like I couldn't stand up. It's terrifying to see your child in danger. Stress is a very unhealthy thing for the body and mind. Usually I feel ready for the day when I wake up and now I feel like I haven't slept. I hope this feeling will go away in a few days.
At the same time its encouraging to know - as humans we can surprise ourselves with the strength we have inside - we don't even realize we have it, until that moment. The same feeling happened when I had the break in 13 yrs ago. I instantly became a different person and survival clicked in. Believe in yourselves -the strength is there, even if you can't feel it.
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Supermom Lynn, lol - Yep, that's YOU.
![]() I agree your cops are lazy. I could almost understand their excuse if you lived in an area like mine, but you said yourself you don't live in a high crime area. What was their problem - they couldn't put down the doughnuts for a few minutes to go look for a couple of vicious DOGS? ![]() I'm so glad those dogs didn't harm your daughter. If you hadn't been there, they might have caused serious harm if not death. I'm sure if this had happened to one of your policemen or his daughter, he and his buddies would be out there looking for the dogs. ![]() I heard some popping noises outside one day. I later learned a neighbor down the street was involved with dog fighting (pit bulls). When the police showed up, three of the dogs got loose - but charged no one. Still, the police gunned them down on the street without hesitation. I hope and pray you and your daughters won't have any contact with these dogs again. |
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Thank you ((KathyM))
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Good for you Lynn!!! I’m proud of you! It’s SO frustrating, the dispatcher could/SHOULD have connected you to the dog catcher when you called. They are TRAINED to ask questions so that they can get accurate information to assess the situation! Granted, this situation had been taken care of for YOU, however who knows what these animals did once they left your property.
Why does someone have to be injured before action is taken? When someone IS injured they shake their heads and wring their hands and say “what a shame, if only this could have been prevented.” But it COULD have been prevented, it should have been prevented! Unless you say those dreaded words “Pitbull”, “Rottweiler”, or “Wolf Hybrid” law enforcement is very likely to blow you off. The dog that attacked my daughter was a mutt, a husky – chow mix. If it were me, I would write and email or letter to the local government leader. Someone has to make sure that these dispatchers are properly trained, that these complaints are taken seriously. This isn’t a dog getting into your garbage or taking a dump in your yard, it is a PACK of dogs attacking children.
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![]() ![]() It's true, since she wasn't injured they just let it go. I think I will back it up with a letter or email. This was an attack, but luckily it was stopped. My girls were in the house when i came in and collapsed on the sofa - at 1st they thought I was bit. Weed whackers aren't just for trimming grass - they're a handy weapon too lol. I must have been quite a sight.
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I'll try very hard not to get on my soapbox about "psycho pit bulls" since it's based off of your own experiences and stuff...
Anyways, there was once a dog chasing us around when we were kids over at a babysitter's house. I don't remember it well but I think it was actually a little dog (but when you are 6 and your older brother is... 7? any dog can seem big) all I really remember was being high up on the porch while my brother decided to try and get away from it by standing on a rotting picnic bench. Not... a good idea since he ended up falling backwards and busting his head on a cinder block (he was ok with a few staples but there was a LOT of blood). that was the only time I remember a dog when we lived there aside from our akita and our neighbors rottie (that I only remember because it had an undocked tail so it was like black a rat tail that would whip you when he was wagging it). |
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((((((((((((((((Lynn and Kids))))))))))))))
I am so very glad y'all are okay, I'm sorry y'all had to go through that, I hope they were able to track down those dogs. |
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This is a bit off the topic, but I think the prejudice against certain breeds is part of the problem. ANY large dog can severely injure or kill someone. I believe it is the responsibility of the owner of the animal to put them down (sorry Cesar) when it becomes apparent the animal is aggressive.
Many years ago very good family friends adopted an adult male Pit Bull from a Pit Bull Rescue. Their children were 5 and 3 at the time. They had no knowledge of the animal or its history. It had been dumped in the Columbia River. They were familiar with the breed and comfortable having it in their home. The dog was very sweet, somewhat destructive to their home, but not a danger to their children. A month after my daughter’s attack, two weeks after her stitches were removed, my brother came back to the area for a visit with his new wife and TWO Rotts. I was SO disgusted with him, I asked him what he was thinking! We had to give away our own family dog because my daughter was terrified, and here he brings these two huge animals. This attack severely affected her sense of security. When she got out of the hospital she requested to stay at my parent’s house. Because “Papa [is a police officer and he] can protect me” it broke my heart. At the time I had no idea how I was ever going to get her to feel safe at home (no where near the attack). We didn’t own guns or have a police car in our driveway. My brother showing up for a visit with these dogs helped the things along, but it was NOT the way I wanted things to go. My daughter has always been very intelligent, she called him on it. He said “sweetheart, if you had a Rott, that animal would have never touched you. When it approached you, the Rott would have killed it before it could have even scratched you.” She believed him. When his female had a litter of puppies the following spring, he sent two, one for us, and one my father trained and used as a police dog. We had that Rott for 14 years. She was the sweetest, smartest dog we’ve ever had, but there isn’t a doubt in my mind that she would have defended us if the need arose. My point is, you CAN have a pet that will protect yourself and family without encouraging aggressive behavior. My uncle used to make fun of her all the time, calling her a wimp. He was a frequent guest in our home and could come and go as he pleased, she wouldn’t even raise her head. He stopped by to pick up something from the house, and we were not home. She made it perfectly clear that he wasn’t welcome there right now, while we weren’t home. He was stunned, didn’t think she had it in her. When he came back later that day, she greeted him just as affectionately as she always had. So the theory that a protection dog needs to be mean is wholly inaccurate.
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I don't mind going off topic a bit about breeds of dogs etc. I agree with you AAAAA, even though some dogs like PitBulls, Rottweilers etc are known to be fiesty, it definitely depends on how it's raised and I'm sure they're very nice dogs. Any dog regardless of breed can be urged to be aggressive. But I also think there are some breeds that tend to be typically more docile than others and good with kids.
I think people need to be very careful with strange dogs around children and simple playing can turn into wrestling, even though the dog isn't intending to be vicious and mauling happens. When I was 5, I was visiting my neighbor and we just finished swimming. Their dog was friendly. It was very hot and I remember the flies were biting his ears. I was petting the back of his head and he bit full force on my arm. I frantically ran up on the picnic table. I firmly believe this dog wasn't mean and he spontaneously reacted because the flies were bothering him - he had sores on the tips of his ear. I was too young to sense body language or figure out, it wasn't a good time to pet him. My family and I never blamed the dog - it was just bad timing and unfortunate. I can understand why your daughter was traumatized - she endured a serious attack by a very aggressive dog. I remember being bitten just like yesterday - it's very clear in my mind. I love dogs, but when we go to the dog park, I still get a little edgy when a dog runs toward me. I stand still with my arms folded and don't make eye contact. I also learned not to keep treats in my pocket lol or else I'll be the most popular person in the dog park.
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I was mauled when I was five myself, but it was TOTALLY 100% my fault. I knew the dog was questionable. I knew I wasn’t allowed near it, and she was tied up on her own property well away from foot traffic. I know you’ll find this surprising, but I was stubborn when I was a child :-p
Leash laws were not what they are now, and almost everyone’s dog ran loose. I was called the Pied Piper of dogs. I had a pack with me wherever I went. I had no fewer than 6 dogs with me at any given time. They actually acted as a pack and respected me as their leader, they listened and never fought. I’d never met a dog that I wasn’t friends with. Mary, a beautiful German Sheppard was one of the most difficult to befriend. I didn’t get to see her often, only when her owner would visit his mother who happened to live right next door to my Aunt (I lived at my Aunt’s for all intents and purposes). I too remember it like it was yesterday. I remember it taking so long to get close to her. When she finally let me, I sat there petting and talking to her. Then I heard my Aunt’s door open, and KNEW I was in trouble. When I jumped up, Mary became nervous. When my Aunt screamed “get the hell away from that dog” it put her over the edge and she attacked.
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Since this incident happened I haven't been feeling well physically - extremely weak and fatigued. Today is 'bike to school day', so me and my 8 yr old biked this morning. This is normally a very easy thing since me and girls bike regularly. When I got back it felt like I went 20 miles and I felt extremely weak.
I was wondering if anyone has experience with emotional trauma having physical symptoms?? I was also talking to a friend about the incident and started crying uncontrollably - normally I don't cry easily, only for serious things like death etc. I think I should visit my family doctor and see what she says. ![]()
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Our mental health can very much affect how we feel physically, I know after intense therapy sessions or being triggered I often feel fatigued, get severe headaches, have muscle spasms, or pelvic pain. Something like you mentioned that is normally easy suddenly becomes hard and overbearing.
It's important you rest and take good self care steps, ibprofen helps with any pain, and just give yourself time to rest and regroup after an emotionally draining situation ((((((((((((((LynnP))))))))))))))))) Sending lots of gentle hugs to you Best wishes Typo |
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Thanks ((Typo)). I decided to visit my doctor and told her what happened, plus she had my blood test results from last week. She said this is a normal way to feel after a psychological trauma and she recommended I take Ativan as needed for 2 weeks. I've never taken Ativan before so can someone tell me what it feels like?? She also said it's normal to feel physically drained after an experience like this. She seemed hopeful this would get better soon.
I remember I had this same feeling when I suffered a break and enter 13 yrs ago, but I didn't know what was wrong. She also said I'm moderately anemic and a little low on Vit D. Maybe the anemia is why I had trouble biking as I usually do. She checked my blood pressure and it was good. I'm hopeful I'll bounce back to my normal self soon. ![]()
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Bounce away!
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*Trigger Warning*
A few years back, I was out walking the next door neighbours dog with her owner and my mum. She was off the lead and running ahead of us and I was trying to keep up with her. She attacked a Westie, turned it over onto its back and tried tearing its throat out. She was growling and I was screaming. I was also trying to drag her backwards by her collar. My mum thought I was in the middle of a dog fight and came charging round the corner, closely followed by the dog's owner. They were able to drag the dog away from the westie. I've been nervous around German Shepards ever since. That dog might be dead now if I hadn't kept up with her. A long time before this, there was a cat living two doors from us and two dogs came onto his garden and he attcked them. But he was a very old cat and they overpowered him, one of them bit his back legs and paralysed him. My parents took him to the vets. Dad came up to the bathroom later that night and told me they'd put him to sleep.
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I don’t think I’ve noticed a “feeling” with Ativan (except perhaps sleepy) but it does help with the ability to cope with things.
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Lynn I am so happy to hear that you were there to protect your child... I have two big dogs myself and while I trust them I also know they are dogs by nature, therefore, I never let them outside with out me, and they are always on a leash or contained in a well fenced in yard.
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I hate loose dogs!! I want to start carrying a gun or something just to walk MY OWN dogs around the freaking neighborhood!
Not as scary as your situtation but.. I have an 8yrold dog and I saved him from 2 huge dogs a few months. Let him out to pee, 2 dogs come out of nowhere. He was thinking playmates and they were thinking food. Second I saw them all standing in the same circle..them tearing him apart flashed through my mind..like his death flashing before my eyes while I thought quick to work it so I could get him. Luckilly I was able to grab him and get him away before anything happened. I'm a dog person..experienced with dogs so kind of know how to read them and not provoke them and do whatever..but even that was way too close. Luckilly the neighbor started crossing the street to help me. But it's not the first time loose dogs or dogs whove jumped fences came after us. I'm sick of it! Luckilly, the other time the husky that jumped the fence understood words because I kept yelling at it to get out of here and go home and he backed up. I'm a dog person/animal lover..but if something comes near me and threatens my own dogs I'd have no problem hurting it! |
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Thanks for sharing ((MochaFraPiz)). Your story reminds me, when Bella was only 4 months. I was walking her at night and there was a man with 2 basset hounds. They were a block away and barking like crazy and pulling. They got free and made a bee line for Bella. I immediately swept Bella up and held her high on my chest and didn't make eye contact with the dogs. The owner ran up and said "sorry". I was so mad that I couldn't say a word and walked away. Many times when I go out at night I'll see this guy - he either turns the other way or I walk the other way. This shook me up too, but not as bad as the attack on my daughter.
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there are a ton of stray cats, but very few stray dogs around here. The first time was at my friend's graduation party where a stray dog was trying to sniff one of their dogs and such, but their dog didn't like that so one of their other dogs came and told it to back off, so the stray dog bit that dog's ear (not the one it was sniffing) and tore it a little
well, they caught that stray dog and kept it in the bathroom and contacted the authorities. It wasn't human aggressive... (and apparently was a she) the other time was when pumpkin was a tiny little thing and there was a little dog off leash way down the sidewalk. Granted, it was a pekingese so... not very big, but at that point pumpkin was the size of a little chihuahua (she was only about 4 pounds!) so I decided to give it a wide birth and decided to cross the street and walk on the other sidewalk. Though... I was 1/2 tempted to bring it home since I love pekingese, I didn't know if it was friendly or not and it was probably someone's pet. I didn't see it after that Both times nothing major happened. |
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lynn,
I'm glad it turned out ok for you. It is scary and can tramatize a child for their life. They may always be afraid of dogs because of this. One thing you said about the Police...as a former Cop I can tell you that it is not a priority call, unfortunately there are calls that are treated differently. Since you didn't report any injuries or life threatening issues, they took it as a routine stray or loose animal call. I had several incidents with dog attacks on myself over the years. Two were when I was a mail carrier....I pepper sprayed them, one was in New Jersey in the woods where I was cutting trees, had to baseball bat a pack of 4 dogs...me and my nephew, we put a hurting them. One was here at my home....I was in the garden and they came running at me but, I scared them off by running toward them like a maniac and had a garden hoe with me. If that wouldn't have worked....I would have had to shoot them, I was armed. I am usually armed at night on my property. I have a concealed carry too. I am so glad you or the kids didn't get injured. If I would have been there I would have fought them off like I did one other dog that was trying to attack an old man. He was doing his best but the dog had him by the leg and wouldn't let go until I kicked him so hard in the side he yelped and turned on me. I literally fist fought the dog, punched him in his nose, grabbed him around theneck and tried to rip his eye out. He took off and the animal control caught him later, they put him to sleep. The old man had to have a couple nerve surgeries but he did ok. I think I would do the same thing today, dogs don't scare me. |
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I know this opinion is provocative but I for one would like to taser, pepper spray or beat the owners of these animals. At the very least these people choose to allow an aggressive animal to exist and fail to adequately control it. Just about any dog will get loose at one point in their life, so unless you’re living on your own 120 keeping an aggressive animal is no different to me than sitting in a bar drinking for several hours and then getting into your car.
Just today, a woman was placing her order at the McDonalds Drive-thru. A man was “walking” his Boxer WITHOUT a leash. The dog went bounding up to the woman’s car and promptly scratched the heck out of it. He took off before the police showed up. Who does that? Why do people think they can just let their dogs run loose? If I were Queen of the world for the day, people like this would never be permitted to own another dog as long as they lived. When the Judge asked my daughter what punishment she thought the owner of the dog that attacked her should have my daughter responded “I don’t want her to ever have another dog.” The Judge agreed, but told her that he was only able to make this a condition of her five year probation. Why is it that we cannot deem some pet owners unfit and forbid them from ever owning another animal?
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![]() ![]() Where I used to live had a dog on the street the nearly killed a dog too. The worst part is the dogs owner was LAUGHING while it was attacking a tiny chihuahua. Its a little confusing because I really love dogs, and then I hear about particular ones doing this kind of thing. People need to train their dogs and keep them inside, in the yard or on a leash. |
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