Ozzie has resigned as an administrator

I hope that I do not offend anyone here with this post..First, I think that Ozzie was precious and encouraging here..I moderated another forum for over 2 years(something I never want to do again)..anyway, when I left, quite honestly I left in anger..not at the forum I belonged to, but because my H's gf had gotten access and it caused a tremendous mess for me..when I left ,I blocked all email access to me, and got rid of my signee and stopped all responses from the site from reaching me..personally, for me, I had no right to remove any previous post or thread that I had participated in, or begun..I cannot tell you how many times members of that forum would pm me and tell me that they had gone into the archives, and how they were touched by my posts,or others who had previously posted..that is where they should remain..I participated willingly and supportively in them, and all of my threads & posts belonged, and still do, to that community...I chose to leave and that was my closure...I still visit sometimes, and am grateful that it was a part of my life..My hope for Ozzie is that she always knows how special she is here to this forum, and that those of us who are here understand, though we may not agree with what has happened..Ozzie please take gentle care of yourself..

So sorry to hear ozzie's resignation was the result of a disagreement with an admin. decision.
Ozzie seemed like a very concientious woman, even though we didn't always agree, & if this disagreement caused her to leave the site, I for one would like to know what unethical decision by admin caused this action.
I expect we will never know that.
This reinforces all the doubts I have begun to have about this site.

zorah,

i would like to say that nothing was referred to about an "unethical decision". there was a disagreement regarding an administrative decision.

i just wantded to clarify that.

have a great one!

kd

Of course they wouldn't SAY it was an unethical admin decision, but why would ozzie resign in this manner, if her disagreement with admin WASN'T ethical.

zorah, it is time to move on from this, ozzie has gone, we all knew she was going, she just left earlier than planned, whatever decision she made to go is her own lets respect that.

My guess is whatever the reason she left the other moderators and Dr John did not see eye to eye with her...I do not think they are all unethical. Sometimes you just don't win...
I can see all sides..I wish I could delete a lot of what I have posted....I am guessing by now Dr John has thought about it and maybe the keys to removing your own posts has, or will be taken away from the people who volunteer here to avoid this kind of thing in the future. Wishing you ALL well

There was no unethical decision made, zorah. that's a rude assumption on your part. as i understand it someone disagreed with a decision OZZIE made, and she didn't like that.

i have no idea what you think is so "unethical" about this site or the mods. they are all awesome people and they have your best interest at heart. just because you may not agree with all their decisions, doesn't mean they're not ethical.

before you judge them that way, you ought to understand what it's like to be a mod. it's not as easy as it looks.

In all fairness, Zorah should be able to voice her frustrations as well. Granted, she assumed something unethical happened, but that is probably more of a PTSD reaction that anything else. She is allowed her opinion, just everyone else is allowed theirs. Personally, I am glad she stated her discomfort here. It's harder to fix problems if no one knows they are around. I don't think she should be made to feel bad because she feels uncomfortable. Not everyone can get along with everyone. It's part of life.

Furthermore, none of us know what happened. Sure, we can guess, but only the two people involved know the "real" story. We probably never will. So, I think we should remember this is a support site and either support Ozzie's decision or simply agree to disagree. Speculating just starts rumors.

Arguments are only going to lead to more problems. Whats done is done. Whether we agree with the choices made or not.

Good luck, Ozzie. Wherever you are.

I second that.

Oh yes, I see. Zora posting with the assumption that the administrators at this site must have made an unethical decision was perfectly supportive and acceptable because she has a right to air her problems with the site. My post, however, was not supportive but was only argumentative because I said "don't make assumptions that someone is being unethical".

I never personally attacked anyone- only asked one person not to attack the admin and make assumptions based on no information. I didn't say anything against Ozzie, nor in fact Zora- just that her assumption was rude. I supported admin without calling anyone names or making accusations based on no data.

Yet I'm the unsupportive one. Lovely.

Good luck, Ozzie. Wherever you are.

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That I can agree with!

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Good luck ((((( ozzie )))))


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I know that for me, whenever I've left a job, it was because of more then just one thing. Usually I was suffering burnout, and getting upset at things long before walking out. Being a mod at this site must be very stressful. There have been so many times of tension here. And ozzie was always at the forefront. I can see how it weared her down. I really don't think she'd want even more arguing on her behalf. What's done is done and we can't change it. Speculation on our part is not our job. I think it's time to accept it and move on. ozzie will always be legendary here. She will always be in our hearts. We may never fully understand it, so it's time to accept that we won't understand and live and let live.

good luck ozzie, thanks for everything.

~rayna

Okay everyone, let's move on, away from this place where some of us are frightened and confused. Let's remember to not take things too personally and to treat others the way we wish to be treated. I vote for an immediate lock to this thread and a moving on. I for one will never know what happened and it's time to focus somewhere else.

I can relate to leaving a job, since I'm at the point with one of my jobs right now where I've had it up to here with the director and owners, and I'm sick of being mismanaged and treated like something to use up and throw away. I'm suffering from moderate to severe burn-out with that job, and I want everybody to know that the management is a bunch of lying, self-serving, discriminating (can't think of an appropriate name to call them). The idea of telling the clients and their parents that I feel that way has a lot of appeal. I'm still working there, partly because I don't have time to job search while I'm working two jobs, but even more because I care about the clients I work with, and I really would like to be able to help them. As much as I might like to go out with a bang and take someone with me in my fall, I won't do it because that would not help the clients I've been serving. I have no desire to take back from them anything I have given them, because my caring for them is genuine and always will be.

I can understand Ozzie feeling burnt out and hurt and unsupported. Her feelings are her own, and I realize that she wouldn't feel that way for no reason at all.

At the same time, it hurts that she did some of the things she did, like taking away all the support she had given to everybody here.

As to the speculations about what happend and why she left, I was involved and can tell you that it was not because of anything unethical. I appreciate SC defending our honor on that count. People are going to speculate when someting happens like this
and that's ok as long as they don't get attached to their assumptions and insist their version they come up with of what must have happened is the only truth.

Thank you Rapunzel,
That was all I wanted, reassurance from someone who WAS involved & knew what happened, that this is not an ethical problem.

Zorah, I'm glad it helps.

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I recall a number of over 10,000 posts for Ozzie. Now they all are deleted? Sounds like Ozzie is very much hurting. How could we (Psych Central) missed out on providing the support Ozzie needed? How could someone post so many posts, spend so much time here, then now leave? Is she going through withdraws?

Administrators and moderators need support, too.

I miss you, Ozzie. Much love wherever you are.

We would never want to see anyone denied the right to delete their own posts on this site.

but we aren't allowed to delete our own posts after an hour. We have to get permission from admin. I think most of us have been around long enough to see that they don't allow that to happen. Some people were asked to rethink their decision for a couple of days and then ask again if they really thought it was necessary.

Shouldn't admin be expected to do the same thing?

First - I think of this situation as it is no different from someone in a real world administrative job at a rape crisis center, domestic violence center, county mental health center and private practice. Its a part of life that people do leave their jobs either by resigning or being fired. They take with them all their personal items whether shared with the clients and agency or not. And most times the clients ARE NOT told the reason why that person left the agency.

Just because this is online it is no different. Psych central is a support group just like those run by real world rape crisis centers, domestic violence centers, mental health agencies. Psych central has an employee just like in the real world that has left the agency, and just like leaving a job in the real world she has taken her own personal items whether or not they were shared with the office personnel and clients. And Like in the real world the clients are not being told the whole situation that led to the employee leaving her job.

Second - Like in the real world those that have a problem with the employee leaving can talk with the administration of the agency in private so that they can better understand the situation. Like in the real world the administration can forwards contact information to the employee so that the employee can choose whether or not she wants to answer that persons questions about the situation and decision to leave the agency or continue contact with those she left behind.

Third - it was my understanding that this thread started by the employee and then continued by the administration was put here to inform the clients of the the employees decision to leave the job and so that the clients have a way to wish the employee well. It was not put here as battleground for world war three, or to inform the clients of the situation that led to the employees decision to leave the agency.

Fourth - I was coming in here for months before I was a registered client so I know that it is possible that Ozzie can and could be watching what is going on here. During her time on the job she never put up with arguements, rumors and speculations. I can't help but think how disappointed and hurt all this is making her feel. I also can't help but think how this thread may be pushing her further away from us instead of giving her reasons to come back to us.

Ozzie I hope all is well with you. Take care.

I agree this should be locked.

There is nothing wrong with differences in opinions. It is healthy to speak up about things if someone feels strongly about a subject.

Talking about "shoulds" . . . I wished I would of been more supportive to Ozzie.

I think sometimes we (Psych Central) forget the words displayed on these forums represent REAL people and feelings. Ozzie wrote a lot of words . . . a lot! She poured out her heart for us all. I'm very worried about her. I hope this thread does NOT get locked.