Ozzie has resigned as an administrator

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BUT, she had no right to delete THOUSANDS of posts from this site. I feel like PsychCentral has been vandalized. So many conversations are now stilted.

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I suppose it's a personal hot-button for me, but I view the effect of this action as crazy-making, and in my opinion, damaging to this site. I don't know ozzie other than from her posts, but I was shocked when I came here and discovered this. What a giant hole. And a giant sorrow.

I'm very sorry that ozzie felt that she needed to leave in this way. I don't know what happened, and I imagine it must have been big. I know she is much loved here and will be missed terribly.

Ozzie, do take care of yourself. I wish you peace and happiness.

I'm sorry I am not able to offer you support now, as you are gone, and I didn't know to before.

To the community, I share in the disappointment and sadness expressed, as well as anger. Mostly I just think it's a real shame.

gg

susan........ihope that you are still reading posts and that the love shown to you here somehow eases some of your pain.....loved and missed.....julia

A very wise and insightful post, gg...

I, for one, understand completely why Susan felt she had to remove herself ENTIRELY from this site.

Now we know what it's like to be without her as we look at the gaping hole her leaving has left.

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BUT, she had no right to delete THOUSANDS of posts from this site. I feel like PsychCentral has been vandalized. So many conversations are now stilted.

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IMO, she had EVERY right to take all of her with her. Her words were hers as well as HER. Her heart was in those words. That, with the fact that she was an Admin gave her the right to do what she chose with HER words. Members get their posts edited by mods, we edit our own posts, why shouldn't Susan have the same right to do with her own words what she chooses?

As for stilted conversations, it's not the first time nor will it be the last. That's just something we have to deal with. What's going to be tougher is dealing with her abscense! I won't miss her in my personal life, we keep in touch, but this site won't be the same without her, stilted conversations or not. It's her advice, her support, her help with issues here that I'm going to miss the most... The LOVING TOUCH she put to everything, even when she and I didn't agree.

(I love you, Li'l Sis! )

Sept, it wasn't that she had the right, it was the manner in which she chose to exercise that right. She violated the community's trust, and my trust, by doing it on her own, behind everybody's back, with no advance notification or notice. An administrator has my utmost and sacred trust -- no one else has that same power. For someone to take the tools entrusted to them and use them in the manner she did, well, unfortunately, that put a very bitter end to her time here. That was an action even the prior administrator never took.

While the end result was the same, the manner in which she conducted herself at that final moment unfortunately undid a lot more than she did by deleting her posts.

It has taught me something about choosing administrators, and it has taught me that I can't really ever trust someone with the same kind of power she had, at least not for a long time.

DocJohn

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I could no longer be a part of something when I had learned of it's lack of honor.

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Perhaps if we put our brains together, we can figure out what this means to ozzie! Perhaps not. I, personally, will think about what the issues have been around here. I do know there were inconsistencies, and partiality.. but not sure that would be enough for something like this to happen.

I understand your position, but perhaps the fact that I've felt the same way she is feeling and was feeling when she deleted her entire self, gives me the ability to understand HER. Perhaps that's why I don't feel bitter. I'm just terribly, terribly sad that she's hurting like she is. Her pain doesn't come from anything imagined. It's real and it's for a real reason.

Before she could tell me ANYTHING about the circumstances, she told me "I feel like someone died." Her last entry in her blog told me everything I needed to know. I don't know, Doc... maybe "it's a woman thing."

I do understand that you would feel betrayed, too, though. Gives you food for thought, doesn't it?

(((((((((((((((((DocJohn)))))))))))))))))) I am so sorry. Wishing you peace.

sigh. i'm wishing that i hadn't had to be gone all weekend considering everything i missed.

Ozzie, where ever you might be... i miss you and i am sorry that you had to leave. things aren't the same here without you. i understand why you deleted them. i get it and i don't blame you.

please take care and stay safe, oz. i miss you.


shadow

No, it's not a woman thing....since I'm pretty sure I'm one too.

Here is the way I see it:

Think of it as this place being a community center. Ozzie made many wonderful donations to this center. In particular when she posted as a moderator, or admin, or any time she offered support to others - it was a donation, a gift. She also gave thoughtful tools for people to use in their recovery. She donated those words, those supports, those tools to the community. IMO, she does not own them.

The posts that perhaps she DOES own, IMO, would be the ones posted regarding her own personal issues. But when acting as a support, or a mod, or admin....those were donations to the community. Taking back ones donations just doesn't seem right to me. It's not like they could be used elsewhere....they were just destroyed. What a sad waste of a good heart, and of the special emotional energy it took to post so much here.

I do understand impulsive acts - I've had my fair share of those. I can only understand this if it was an impulsive "oopsie I should not ought to have dun that!" sort of act. If this was done with fore thought....then I'll never understand it.

emmy

I am very sorry Ozzie left. I think she did a great job as administrator and she offered a lot of support to hurting members here.. Although she does have the right to her "words", I am very sad she deleted them. Whoever she was angry at or whatever reason I guess we will never know. But, by her deleting her posts more or less means she took out her anger on everyone. So many people have been comforted by her words and she took them all back... This is very sad...i think and I am sorry to say this, she abused her position as administrator when she deleted her posts . And now not only that she was hurt, she has inturn hurt many here...

I do wish Ozzie well and hope things work out for her. She will be missed by many here...

Well, maybe you think or feel a bit differently than most women that have been PMing me agreeing with me. But as always, I'm as entitled to MY opinion as you are. You have YOURS, I have MINE.

((((((((((((((((((((((((Susan)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I understand. And i miss you.

Shall we put it up to a vote? My pm's against yours??

Seems like it's over and done with anyhow. Major bummer.

em

For the Sake Of Ozzie:
Whether you liked her, knew her, agreed with her....
Please put your thoughts about how she left to rest.
I can only hope she hasn't been back on the forums.
The woman was hurting. She acted upon impulse alone.

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For the Sake Of Ozzie:
Whether you liked her, knew her, agreed with her....
Please put your thoughts about how she left to rest.
I can only hope she hasn't been back on the forums.
The woman was hurting. She acted upon impulse alone.

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Agreed.......

Hugs to you Ozzie, and much hope for better times ahead! Take care........... everyone!

Nah... I don't hord my PMs like some people. LOL

Anyway, if you want to hash it out, do it by PM. I've said all I'm going to say here.

it saddens me to say , this was started as a goodbye post and now it is turning ugly..

I will only say this once.. I wish the best for all who is greiving over what has happend and I hope someday we all can come to some understanding in what has happended...

I knwo Doc John can not tell us what made Ozzie do this nor should we ask or should we??? Maybe that would make us understand things better.. My honest thougts on this..

Just my words here ..
I have not gotten any pms' spet.. and I do agree she took things away from all of us when she left, and I feel broken hearted about that too..

love to all of you..
in our time of need we neeed to pull together not try to push each other away from each ohter..

Peace to all of you.

Only Ozzie can speak as to why she resigned. Since she's gone, she has silenced herself.

But from my perspective, the basic issue is she and I didn't see eye to eye on an administrative issue. She thought it important enough to resign over. I respected that and told her as much. She had nothing but my support and admiration before she left.

Folks, I wanted to be fair and give everyone a chance to 'vent' over this unfortunate circumstance. But I'm not going to rehash this over and over again. What's done is done and we need to move on....

DocJohn

Was it only one issue DocJohn, really? (I am asking.. really.)

Thank you Doc I do apperciate it, Doc, I just wanted to know why.. and you ahve told us agian..

I do aperciate all you ahve done for this fourm and I do apperciate all you do for all of the members on here..

Thank you..
I did mean to sound as we were re-hashing it, I am sorry it felt that way..
I will step aside now... forgive me

I don't think rehashing is quite the right word... the members of the site are working through their grief. It's a process. It often needs to be talked about over and over until it's worked through. Phrasing the same questions differently even... and new questions that arise. I hope the thread isn't locked, like DocJohn promised. I think there are still members out there that haven't read this yet.. that don't realize that not only is Ozzie gone from the site, but took her words with her.

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DocJohn said:
It has taught me something about choosing administrators, and it has taught me that I can't really ever trust someone with the same kind of power she had, at least not for a long time.

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Interesting dilemma. DocJohn, I think there are people you can trust. However, every trustworthy human has his/her breaking point, as Ozzie as shown us.

Maybe terms for administrators is a good idea (for example, quarterly or bi-yearly or every 2 thousand posts)?

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Susan}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Miss you, "Li'l Sis!!"