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Old Dec 22, 2014, 10:55 AM
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I lied at my first confession and told the priest I did something bad when I didn't do it.I couldn't think and panicked
Avlady, did you then confess that you lied!?

I used to struggle to come up with things to confess as a kid too.

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Old Dec 22, 2014, 11:49 AM
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Thanks for this - I have not laughed so much for a long time.

And of course I don't believe a word you say!
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Old Dec 26, 2014, 03:52 AM
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I have lied on forums before, for many of the reasons that people whom responded to this post before me have (to fit in, nervous, to cover the truth with a lie that resembled the same problem to get an applicable response, etc.)

People that no longer respect me for admitting I've lied no longer get mine for lying to themselves about how honest they are being. We all lie at one point or another, just like we've all been honest at some point. It's actually considered healthy to lie to a certain extent to build goals, climb up the career ladder, and to offset the bad while accentuating the good. We all have our reasons for lying, and I am a firm believer of all lies and the circumstances they are applied to not being created equal.

I mostly lie to avoid judgment while seeking help and assistance from others. I wouldn't be all that surprised if others did the same thing to me and I don't think it dishonors one's character. The point is to be honest about what you want to be helped with. Everything else is irrelevant anyway and the distraction of the truth may defeat the purpose - to get help - not to be judged.

I also have severe delusions and it can be hard for me to determine reality from what my mind perceives as reality but in fact may be my own fabricated deception. Then again, PTSD along with schizoaffective disorder will do that.
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Old Dec 31, 2014, 06:05 PM
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I think many people lie because telling the truth is not something they can really do. If I am late to a function because I had a really challenging PTSD moment I don't tell my customer I was late because of the PTSD. I am sure many individuals that are suffering from a mental illness lie rather than say they did not do something because they were so severely depressed they could not function etc.

However, there "are" lies that are harmful, people get online and lie about who they are and play mind games, that not only hurts them but others as well. Sadly, they always like to pick those who are unsuspecting, be it young and inexperienced, or, challenged in some other way.

It is more important to ask yourself "why" you need to lie. If it's to belong somehow, then it isn't worth it because it's not real, it's not being "the true you" and its not really productive.

How many reach out for help and find a therapist and lie for fear of being "judged poorly", so much time wasted on that, time better spent with doing one's best to be honest and work together with the therapist to figure out the "whys" to the deep internal pain that is there needing to be shared and validated and "healed".

I tend to cherish those moments when I am with someone who says, I pretend to be this but inside I am in so much pain. That is when I can actually reach out to that person and help that person and I feel honored that that person is sharing with me too. I have had some amazing conversations with people, and it is those conversations that I not only learn, but really have come to appreciate what "honesty" really means, how deep it can go and the richness it can provide, it's a universe away from the "lies and deception", because it's "real".

You know that saying, "the truth shall set you free"? Well, it really does if one is brave enough to try it.

Looks like you want to try it IT. Well, that is a good path to set out on.
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Old Jan 02, 2015, 03:02 PM
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Well the big question is how can we be sure your not lying about lying????
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Old Jan 07, 2015, 05:30 AM
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IT, I just want to know that this made me smile, and I appreciate you so much! Let me know if you need anything. I don't always get on here a whole lot since I'm busy with school and such, but I check in once in a while. My inbox is always open. So feel free to PM me.
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Old Jan 07, 2015, 07:07 AM
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thanks everyone i thought someone would see the sense of humor in it all!!!!
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Old Jan 08, 2015, 04:50 AM
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Why is it funny?
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Old Jan 08, 2015, 05:14 AM
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Takes a lot of courage to confess to something like that, May I say though?...I used to own the questionable things I did but its healthier to say ' I lied' or 'I was proud' or 'I stole a pen', rather than |I AM a liar, I AM proud, I AM a thief.

Don't make your mistakes ( which we all make) part of your soul garment which is beautiful.

Once you confess sincerely you can ask for the grace to not lie in the future...I'm sure you'll have more battles regarding lying. Often these temptations come so we can overcome and ultimately embrace something better. God bless.

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Old Jan 08, 2015, 07:40 PM
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Very well put, Ruminati, I agree much!
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Old Jan 08, 2015, 08:10 PM
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I just read the rest of the thread...pretending isn't lying...Saying you have a pretend spider isn't a lie...its just playing.. Imaginative games are healthy in my opinion. I don't know what others think...

Become as a child,,,go on..go and get the lego out, climb a tree, chase someone with dog poo on a stick LOL (the boys in my street were always doing that)..

So that last suggestion was a joke ok? (:

Thanks for liking my post Just Don't Ask.

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Old Jan 10, 2015, 04:01 PM
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I just caught my stbxh in a lie......I got a text from my daughter the other day & he told her that his computers had died......then my lawyer told me that my H said to stop blocking him from my emails......I have never blocked his emails & I even checked my preferences to see if might have been accidentally blocked....NOPE.....he's always doing crap like that....one of the reasons I left him 7 years ago....I never know what lie I could or couldn't believe & got sick of the crap.

Needless to say, I sent him an email dealing with the divorce issues but confronted him about the lie & told him to send me the message that he received saying that his email had been blocked for proof because I didn't believe that he had ever sent one (I'm thinking that he might have misspelled my email address.....but one double checks if they have any common sense)
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Old Jan 12, 2015, 11:00 AM
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Most of my stories are lies. Including threads that i have started here, it's mostly lies. I will be telling the truth from now on, but don't believe most of what i have said in the past .

Thanks.
So my first thought when I saw this was that you are really an honest person, because you are saying you are a liar, but if you were lying about that, then you are not really an honest person....etc etc.

This is called the Liar's Paradox:

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The paradox was once discussed by St. Jerome in a sermon:

"I said in my alarm, 'Every man is a liar!' "(Psalms 116:11) Is David telling the truth or is he lying? If it is true that every man is a liar, and David's statement, "Every man is a liar" is true, then David also is lying; he, too, is a man. But if he, too, is lying, his statement: "Every man is a liar," consequently is not true. Whatever way you turn the proposition, the conclusion is a contradiction. Since David himself is a man, it follows that he also is lying; but if he is lying because every man is a liar, his lying is of a different sort."[3]
Why yes, I am feeling philosophical this morning. Why do you ask?
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Old Jan 20, 2015, 09:59 PM
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That sounds as though David said that in exasperation. Lying is more deliberate..its intention is to deceive in some way.
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 05:17 PM
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Truth

I am in rehab.
I am in therapy.

Lies

I have a partner
I have a cat
I have a turtle
Don't worry, I've lied before and even to myself too, often telling myself I have things I don't really have, or I am happier than I actually am.

Believe it or not, but sometimes through lies, one can journey to the truth.

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Old Feb 24, 2015, 06:14 PM
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Now, that was just funny. (cat owner here)
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 06:52 PM
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I also just assumed your posts tended to be tongue in cheek. I mean... your spider pet??? lol
I was going to say exactly that. From what I gather by reading your posts over the years you and I have a similar sense of humor and when I see your posts, I expect that they will be wry, a little sarcastic, and a lot tongue-in-cheek. And it's true, pretending isn't lying. As long as you're able to discern the difference.

But I'm sad you don't have a cat.
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 09:51 PM
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Most of my stories are lies. Including threads that i have started here, it's mostly lies. I will be telling the truth from now on, but don't believe most of what i have said in the past .

Thanks.
i lie for attention. i know its wrong
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Old Feb 25, 2015, 04:15 AM
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A man says "I'm a liar and everything I've said is a lie. Am I telling the truth?" Similar to the liars paradox any who I thought your posts were comical, not really lying. I think you're awesome and funny. I enjoy your posts c:
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Old Feb 25, 2015, 08:59 AM
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Thank you for 'fessing up to your lies, IT. That took some guts.
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Old Mar 03, 2015, 12:59 AM
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How is the Therapy going for you? Maybe you will consider to continue your writing and place them in your blog, a place where your stories can be read. I like them

Readers Digest is always looking for short stories, and they will surely like some of your stories.
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I applaud your bravery!! kudos!!
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