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Old Jan 14, 2007, 11:33 AM
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i dont want to be borderline.... i dont want to be borderline.... i dont want to be borderline.... i dont want to be borderline....

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Old Jan 14, 2007, 09:36 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2007, 03:29 AM
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My therapist once told me that "borderline" is a diagnosis given "when they (treatment team or Dr) doesn't like you."

(I was once called a borderline in my teens and devastated until my kind shrink clued me in.)

His point was that "borderline" is such a broad diagnosis that it is not very useful. What young adult (or adult for that matter) DOESN'T qualify as borderline??

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Old Jan 15, 2007, 09:24 AM
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Rainbow, what would you like to be instead? I'd think up another name, unrelated, maybe positive, and "decide" I was it. Maybe pick one thing I didn't like the most and come up with a more specific name to remind me to work on it?

I was diagnosed "borderline" back in the early 1970s when it had it's first meaning, combination of neurotic and psychotic symptoms: http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx10.htm but it's not an exact term still, I don't think. I ended up with my T working on "GAD" instead (for lack of another guiding principle :-)

Don't be borderline, be complex, creative, and curious. I did that in the early 1990s, decided I wanted to be a "3W woman" - warm, wise, and whimsical and had a teeshirt made to remind me who I was going to be when I grew up :-)
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Old Jan 15, 2007, 12:32 PM
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My p-doc doesn't label - maybe throwing out the label all together might help.

Think of it more as I behave in certain ways that doesn't get me what I want. Therefore, I need help changing the way I react.

"They" say research is the key to everything. I'm not so sure... The more I found out about bpd, the more it upset me. The less I concentrate on suffering from bpd, the better I seem?
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Old Jan 16, 2007, 05:54 AM
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Do you mean you don't want to have the symptoms you have (I don't know what applies to you... Emotional pain? Urges to hurt yourself? Fear of people? Fear of being alone?)

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Or that you don't want to have the dx?
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Old Jan 17, 2007, 03:15 AM
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theyre not even supposed to diagnose borderline until youre in your twenties..cause yeah, almost every teen would qualify..I was reading the dsm iv today casue i have to for school and it say that people with borderline usually become more stable over time...

T's will throw you into the borderline category if they dont like you, or if they just dont know what to do with you..they put their incompetence on you..

and you know, not everyone fits into these neat little dx boxes. We're all individuals.

I didnt like being labeled borderline either becasue of the stigma. But otherwise theyre only words. Youre not any different after they say it than before they say it...just pick out the stuff you want to work on, and dont sweat it
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Old Jan 17, 2007, 07:31 PM
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Thanks everyone, your right, I should not become the label.

But so many of the symptoms are so me right now - the attachment issues, the mood swings, strange and weird thoughts, anxiety.. the list goes on and on.

I am just frustrated and wish i was better able to cope with life.
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Old Jan 18, 2007, 04:34 PM
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The symptoms... In order to have the "label" bpd you need to meet 5 of the 9 criteria. So if you have five symptoms and you eliminate just one, then you are no longer "labeled" bpd.

My p-doc refuses to label me, but I know I meet 7 of the 9 criteria. All but number 8 and 9.

Ok, so you identify with the symptoms...Now what is the question I keep asking myself. There is not a lot out there on what happens next.

Most sources I've seen indicate that medication when needed to eleviate specific issues combined with therapy.

I just found this one (fits with what I posted before):

STEPPS is an acronym for Systems Training for Emotional Predictability and Problem Solving. The approach of this treatment is cognitive-behavioral and based around skills training. BPD is regarded as a emotional and behavioral regulation disorder, and therefore learning emotion and behavior regulation skills is the primary goal of treatment. In addition, professionals treating the BPD patient, as well as the patient's family members and close friends are taught methods of reinforcing and supporting the new emotional and behavioral regulation skills, reducing the likelihood that the patient will practice “splitting” with those in their social support system.

I like that one so much - I'm going to talk to my p-doc about it.
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Old Jan 18, 2007, 04:47 PM
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Try this link regarding STEPPS

http://www.uihealthcare.com/topics/m...pps/index.html

I especially like the reframing part...

Early in treatment, many of our clients view the term personality disorder as a code for, "it’s all your own fault." The term borderline seems to imply that it is only a matter of time before they fall completely "over the edge." For these reasons, clients often resist the label of BPD, even though they may readily acknowledge the behaviors. Bartels and Crotty have suggested the name Emotional Intensity Disorder as a more accurate description that clients find easier to understand and accept. We use both terms interchangeably. Regardless of the terminology, there are significant advantages to reframing one’s understanding of BPD as a disorder. Rather than viewing themselves as someone who is attempting to manipulate, is attention-seeking, or is sabotaging treatment, the trainees learn to view themselves as driven by the disorder to seek relief from a painful illness through desperate behaviors which are reinforced by negative and distorted thinking.
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