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I've been being experimented on since childhood. Aliens (our creators) cause bad things to happen to me to analyze the data on how I react. They will control people and get them to attack me. I've been attacked over and over. Psychological and physical torment. Statistically its happen too often to be coincidental. There is motive. CPTSD happens due to repeated trauma and I'm wondering if you are being experimented on too? The experimentation seems designed to make us break down. This information must be useful to them. How do you cope? I see no way to make them stop this crap. They get a kick out of it I think. What do you do?

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Old Dec 01, 2016, 08:04 PM
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I'm not just venting, I'm looking for advise and people who have experienced the same. Maybe together we can come up with a solution? Seems impossible and like we are stuck but perhaps together we can think better?
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I can relate like thru the a Bible. The famous story of Job.
He had a great family wealth and all was well. The story goes that God let the devil experiment on Job
Made him very sick to see what happened. Then even sicker. Gave him huge boils all over his skin.
Put him thru the grief and loss to see how he'd react.
Somehow took away all of his friends.
Killed his animals and crops.
So the story goes that Job did not lose his faith in God.
God then rewarded him by increasing his wealth more than before.
Gave him the cures for his health. Re established his status to society.
You could draw a parallel between invisible beings I believe in and Aliens of whom you believe in.
Yes. For my part I think God tests me. That was one reason I decided to get married.
Funny how it turned out.
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Old Dec 01, 2016, 09:19 PM
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((((Hugs and thanks))). Yes, I do think my beliefs are parallel and that is what confuses me. Many people believe the devil is interfering in their life of god testing them but they don't get locked up in an institution. I had the huge boils, health stolen, loss of family and friends, been beaten several times for different reasons....been stalked....had threatening notes left on my car....my families health all went down the crapper....my family is being attacked too. I believe in the Alien so they don't need to test my faith. It's all an experiment and I think they are having a good time too.
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Old Dec 01, 2016, 09:56 PM
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Read the post I just wrote on BP and pstd.
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Old Dec 01, 2016, 10:00 PM
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I didn't even go into the rare and inexplicably horrible health consequences.
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Old Dec 01, 2016, 10:07 PM
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Personally? I don't believe that Aliens are experiementing to see what happens. I think that life itself is a challenge and has always been the case in human nature. I think human beings have been creating stories and ways to help bring a sense of understanding and some of these stories are very insightful and relative even today in humanity.
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Personally? I don't believe that Aliens are experiementing to see what happens. I think that life itself is a challenge and has always been the case in human nature. I think human beings have been creating stories and ways to help bring a sense of understanding and some of these stories are very insightful and relative even today in humanity.
All belief systems are a way for people to make sense of the unexplainable. The aliens may be my form of this perhaps but they seem hell bent on proving to me they exsist. Sometimes they give me great insight...things I could never figure out on my own and end up being true. I was locked in an institution for sharing these beliefs and that is what I don't understand. That is fishy. They don't lock up people with similar but different belief systems. Why is my belief system singled out?
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Old Dec 02, 2016, 05:39 PM
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Well, when someone makes statements like aliens are using me as a test subject, that can mean that individual is experiencing delusional thinking patterns and often the choice is to put that person someplace they can be further observed to prevent that person from getting worse and even harming themselves or someone else. It's also important to let a professional know because a medication you are taking can be creating this side effect and that is something you have to also be careful with.

I am not a professional though Elsa, so don't read this thinking I am diagnosing you ok?
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Old Dec 02, 2016, 05:46 PM
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I enjoy programs like Coast To Coast and Ancient Aliens ...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
http://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens

They provide a lot of alternative theories to ponder!

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Old Dec 02, 2016, 07:57 PM
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I enjoy programs like Coast To Coast and Ancient Aliens ...

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They provide a lot of alternative theories to ponder!

I have thought this about the aliens for years...since childhood. Ancient Aliens is very informative but I realize we are seen as quacks for believing this.
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Well, when someone makes statements like aliens are using me as a test subject, that can mean that individual is experiencing delusional thinking patterns and often the choice is to put that person someplace they can be further observed to prevent that person from getting worse and even harming themselves or someone else. It's also important to let a professional know because a medication you are taking can be creating this side effect and that is something you have to also be careful with.

I am not a professional though Elsa, so don't read this thinking I am diagnosing you ok?

I know a lot of people who think God is testing them and the devil is toying in their lives or someone else's lives and nobody accuses them of being violent or needing to be locked up. It's offensive. I'm not violent at all. I'm a pacifist. How is it fair to single out my belief system just because not a lot of others believe in it?
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I am working with my doctor on my medications again. They know what is going on and I'm taking the medications as they prescribe. I've had this view since childhood. Sometimes it effects me more. How much torture is a person suppose to take. They don't listen to prayers so I don't have that option. So I take medication I guess.
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Old Dec 02, 2016, 08:11 PM
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I'd like to know why every time the aliens experiment on me, it inevitably involves them sticking something up my butt. Is it really necessary every time? Can we at least agree that one invasive butt procedure per person should be sufficient? I've had more than my fair share.
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Old Dec 03, 2016, 08:29 AM
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Oh come on Lefty. You know you love it!!!!
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Slightly off topic, but i find it interesting how society lays out rules for what you can, and cannot believe in depending on where you are...

If some countries, then it is not only okay, but perfectly acceptable for you to believe in various religions.

In others you will be stoned for believing in a different religion

And in others it is unfeasable that you believe in a higher power, and will be burnt as you will be seen as the embodiment of the devil.

Society creates all these boundries itself. Hopefully it goes some way to answer why you got sectioned for your beliefs, because they did not fit with the "norm".
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Old Dec 03, 2016, 09:07 AM
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Oh boy. I have been visited twice, so far as I can tell, by what people have been calling "Greys". They are almost humanoid, in that they have two arms and legs, and a head like ours, but they are very different in appearance. Their head is large, and shaped like an inverted teardrop. They have huge, black almond shaped eyes, and a nearly unnoticeable mouth and nose. I haven't even noticed any ears, so to speak, and they have no hair like we do. Their bodies are thin, and small compared to ours, with a small torso, and thin elongated arms, with elongated bony fingers on their hands. Same with the legs, I suppose, but I rarely focused on that part of their bodies. Their skin was a sickly grey, with a tinge of green.

They came, both times that I recall, when I was lightly sleeping. I guess it's easier to sneak up on a person when they are unawares like that. Both times, they immobilized me somehow, and I could only look around with my eyes, as I shook in the most absolute fear I have ever felt. Both times they were surrounded by a thick fog, so I couldn't really see them in fine detail, but I could see how the basically looked, as I described above. They seem to communicate to one another with an almost insect like clicking language I couldn't understand.

They are hideous malevolent creatures, devoid of any real souls, and only seek to cause pain and suffering, but I guess one or two do feel remorse for their species' experimentation on us. The first time they abducted me, the one in charge of carrying me to the vessel from whence they came actually seemed to feel sorry for me, and tried to comfort me with a kiss on the forehead, not that it did much in any sense. I was still terrified out of my gourd.

In fact, by simply writing this, I feel an increase in fear. I am almost at the point of shaking, and my heart is racing. Well, time to look at pictures of cute and cuddly kittens and puppies for a while.
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Old Dec 03, 2016, 10:01 AM
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I think what happens is that people are exposed to reading about, watching stories on TV about aliens and what they might look like and store it in their minds and have dreams that are very vivid that scare them and these dreams happen in a state of normal paralysis during sleep cycles and these people think of that as being captured and held down. I think that some people who are also artistically inclined can dream in vivid colors and the dreams are so real these individuals begin to believe they are really experiencing these dreams in real life. I have had these dreams myself and it always amazed me how my mind could create an imaginary situation with such detail including sounds and smells. However, it's only a DREAM, not real.

The human brain is truely amazing and has the ability to come up with so many amazing creations, this is shown in all the amazing things we have created thoughout our human history. These talents have always astounded human beings so surely this must be something that comes from outside us, a god of somekind. And why would we think that? It's because we are born like all mammels to look for the parent to show and guide us so we learn how to survive. We are also born maleable in that we need to group together to survive and thrive so we tend to have a strong desire to be part of.

While human beings are so incredibly intelligent and creative, they are also predatory. This also is expressed in our dreams, minds, imaginations and actions. The monsters, aliens and ghosts are in ourselves.
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I'm a survivor of medical torture. You could call it experimentation.
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Old Dec 03, 2016, 10:44 AM
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I think what happens is that people are exposed to reading about, watching stories on TV about aliens and what they might look like and store it in their minds and have dreams that are very vivid that scare them and these dreams happen in a state of normal paralysis during sleep cycles and these people think of that as being captured and held down. I think that some people who are also artistically inclined can dream in vivid colors and the dreams are so real these individuals begin to believe they are really experiencing these dreams in real life. I have had these dreams myself and it always amazed me how my mind could create an imaginary situation with such detail including sounds and smells. However, it's only a DREAM, not real.

The human brain is truely amazing and has the ability to come up with so many amazing creations, this is shown in all the amazing things we have created thoughout our human history. These talents have always astounded human beings so surely this must be something that comes from outside us, a god of somekind. And why would we think that? It's because we are born like all mammels to look for the parent to show and guide us so we learn how to survive. We are also born maleable in that we need to group together to survive and thrive so we tend to have a strong desire to be part of.

While human beings are so incredibly intelligent and creative, they are also predatory. This also is expressed in our dreams, minds, imaginations and actions. The monsters, aliens and ghosts are in ourselves.
It could be this, but I know what I saw, heard and experienced, and it sure seemed real enough to me. I never had these experiences until about a year and a half ago. It might be like you said and subconsciously triggered by a real life event. Maybe what I experienced was not Greys immobilizing me, surrounding me, and bringing me into a bright white light, but my subconscious crying out after a particularly traumatic real life event that happened to me about 6 months prior to the first "abduction".

You know, until I read your post just now, and really had a chance to think about it, I never connected the two, the traumatic real life event and the abductions, in my head. However, it makes a whole hell of a lot of sense now.

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I've never been abducted by aliens. Our universe is tiny and they are much larger than us. We are like bacteria to them. They download thoughts and sometimes do sympathize with us but most do not because our purpose is to be experimented on.

From what I've read there are several types of Aliens but I've never had contact with these usual types. I've never seen a spaceship.

I know they are very large (actually we are just very small)

I'm sorry for anyone whose been abducted by those other types. I had a colonoscopy once but at least I was put to sleep for it! They experiment on my mind and body but they don't have to touch me or abduct me to make it happen. I don't know for sure but I think they look just like us only much larger. They could touch the moon from the ground.

They mean well. Sometimes they are kind. But they mess with us intentionally which isn't a kind thing to do. We do it to animals and they do it to us.
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Old Dec 03, 2016, 11:56 AM
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I've given up eating meat mostly and try not to buy things I know are tested on animals. Perhaps this helps teach them humanity? I need to do better in these areas as I can hardly complain about the experimentation when I subtly participate in it.
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Artchic, think about how creative you are, how artistically inclined you are. You can be creative in your own mind, and this also is something you do in your dreamstate. Now, keep in mind that when you are exposed to visuals and stories that say "here are these aliens, here is what they look like, they invade you this way", you are more apt to store these messages and images deep in your mind with surprising detail.

Now, if something traumatic or upsetting happens to us, we are designed to take what we have already in our minds and look for a way to store the experience, explain it, and file it in a way that we can through whatever we have in our mind. These dream states can feel SO REAL, but while we are experiencing this the rest of our body is in sleep paralysis. Although some people do talk in their sleep and some even sleep walk.

It is only natural that if you are exposed to a story that includes visuals that also sends a message of "fear this" or "these can be dangerous", that your mind would use this to reason out how you could store what you actually experienced and file it.

Artchic, if you consider human history on an subjective even artistic level, we have always been so incredibly creative and in that created "pictures" and "visuals" that we could tap onto in our brains as a way of helping us "reason" our life challenges. In fact, human beings have long had "illusions of granduer". It's not evil to have this quality.

The problem with "following" an ideology or religion is that while it brings a sense of reason and structure and predictablity, it can "limit". Words can be given bad meanings, and people can be trained to believe a word is something bad, but that's just something encouraged, it doesn't have to actually be something harmful or bad for example. Human beings can be encouraged to believe that one is only "worthy" if they happen to have a big home, when in reality, people don't have to believe the "big" is better. Actually, there is a rather new movement called "tiny house living" and because it is slowly being encouraged as "this is a good idea, it's cool", more people are trying it and EXPLORING the idea.

So, take a step back and reconsider this "I have been experimented on by aliens", because that more than likely comes from stories and pictures that you took in and used in your own mind to explain and reason. This is nothing new in human nature. But what is important is to recognize that so you don't train yourself to believe it to the point of madness. This too is something one can actually see when they look at human history objectively.
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It is true that our dreamscape can be very creative and vivid. But whose to say it's not real, or an alternate reality?

When people tell me they have experienced ghosts or aliens or the supernatural, I often dismiss the idea as "crazy" But I've had these experiences too. Seen shadow entities, had our creators talk to me and had experiences which were nothing short of miraculous or supernatural. And then some people tell me they are my imagination and not real and I do t see how they can possibly say this. But I know I'm sure about some things not being true when people tell me about it. Unless it's very close to what I went through which has happened a lot on this board and makes me think there is much more to all of this.

I decided I would not argue and I hope it doesn't sound like I am. Some people may not be aware of what is happening but I imagine some must be. You can PM me if you're too scared to talk about it openly.
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I have usually only talked about the aliens with friends and one time on Facebook. My friends "get me" ....while they may not agree they certainly don't see me as being some weirdo and I'm not. Whatever God or goddess a person believes in, they are rarely "from earth" therefore they are Aliens. Maybe I shouldn't be talking about this. People don't get it I fear. But a few seem to have experienced something along these lines so I know I'm not alone with these thoughts.
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