[elevatedsoul]

so i've been taking 300mg xr for about a week ½, not 100% sure how long... but i switched directly from zyprexa to the 300mg

the only thing that i can notice the seroquel helping with is sleeping a little better, besides waking up at 3am everynight for some reason
my depression has actually started coming back and i've been feeling a bit irritable for about a week

any idea whats going on with me? can i take zyprexa and seroquel or should i just switch back to the zyprexa?
i wanted to try something new other than zyprexa because of weight gain... gained 30lbs (140 to 170)

i have been contemplating asking for adderal to counteract the appetite effect from zyprexa... i talked to my case manager about vyvanse, but i looked the prices up and all of them seem expensive besides adderall

i don't want to come off as a junkie or someone just looking for pills... has any one else been in this situation? im going to go to the office tomorow and try to tell them what i think about seroquel and hopefully get something straight

ive been feeling weird though, like a mixed state... agitated depression... \

anyway, i guess im just looking for some advice and if i will look like a junkie asking for adderall, i feel like he might would give it to me im just scared to ask

thanks,

Hi e, I'm not entirely sure what the problem with the Seroquel is...are you saying that it might be causing you to feel more depressed/irritable/agitated/mixed state?

As fro Adderall, if you're feeling agitated, wouldn't Adderall make that worse? You can always ask your provider about the Adderall, I'd be surprised if your doctor will prescribe it for weight control, but I'm certainly not sure.

[elevatedsoul]

i was doing really well for a little while, but the symptoms started to seep through

maybe its the cymbalta pooping out?

yeah, im thinking the seroquel isnt helping my mood at all, just makes me sleepy

yeah thats what im worried about, he said the wellbutrin is supposed to help give me energy, and make me feel better, but they seem like sugar pills or placebos :/

i haven't quit smoking yet either, one of the side effects i was hoping for

but about the seroquel, i thought that it was supposed to help with the depression? not make you depressed

[Sometimes psychotic]

Seroquel is an antipsychotic...so it works for blocking psychosis...probably mood stabilization but at low doses it's actually used for sleep unlike other APs....as such it tends to be more sedating than other APs...I'm not sure what depression symptoms you're getting but if they have to do with being tired and unmotivated then it's probably the med side effects. While zyprexa is among the worst APs for weight gain, seroquel is not far behind....if you want no weight gain your options are abilify, Geodon or Latuda....in that class of drugs.

As far as taking them together...they have the same primary mechanism so it would be like increasing the dose....however this is done in some cases of severe treatment resistant schizophrenia. I wouldn't recommend it for you though. Hope that helps...

[ChangingMyMind]

I do not have any experience with APs but I did have severe weight gain on an AD, Celexa. I gained over 80lbs in 11 years. I was put on Ritalin to help with a side effect - extreme fatigue but I know none of my doctors would prescribe Ritalin for the weight gain. Although because I was using Ritalin for fatigue it did help me lose 60lbs. I am now off Celexa and the Ritalin. We found out the Celexa was causing the extreme fatigue and since then docs took me off Celexa and subsequently the Ritalin. My docs already told me they won't prescribe Ritalin anymore since it was being used to treat a side effect and they don't typically do that, especially with a drug like Ritalin. From what I understand Adderall is more potent than Ritaln? I doubt the doc will prescribe it for a side effect, especially one like weight gain.

If I were in your position I would stick with the medicine that works well for my mood and deal with the weight gain very carefully with diet and exercise. Now I know it's not easy!! Been there! But I would rather be stable and struggling with weight than unstable and thin. Just my opinion though. I know it's not the same for everybody and sometimes weight gain can make us feel worse! I feel for you. Good luck either way you choose to go!!

Take Care!

[Yoda]

I stopped taking my zyprexa cold turkey when I had not refilled the prescription and I had withdrawal symptoms.

So maybe it is not the addition of the seroquel that is causing your irritability and change in sleep but rather it could be withdrawal from zyprexa. Perhaps you should ask your pdoc about low dose zyprexa and how to wean yourself off of it.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Yoda

I stopped taking my zyprexa cold turkey when I had not refilled the prescription and I had withdrawal symptoms.

So maybe it is not the addition of the seroquel that is causing your irritability and change in sleep but rather it could be withdrawal from zyprexa. Perhaps you should ask your pdoc about low dose zyprexa and how to wean yourself off of it.

Usually you can switch from one AP to a comparable dose of another AP ie zyprexa to seroquel without major withdrawal symptoms it's not the same as stopping all APs cold turkey..it would be like if you had a headache you could switch from Tylenol to Advil and still have an effective treatment but quitting all analgesics would lead to a return of headache pain. However seroquel is weaker than zyprexa so it might not be effective so you could have withdrawal an equivalent analogy would be switching to baby aspirin...it might work but not for everyone...

I so wish I had some magic answers. The medication thing is soooo frustrating. I'm on Seroquel and what it does for me is help me sleep really well and it calms my anxiety a little bit. Usually it helps keep frightening thoughts out of my mind. It keeps me somewhat dopey all the time so I can't think as much. But it's not a miracle pill, at least not for me.
Your Buspar does is tiny.
I've heard people say that Welbutrin helps them...I've tried it twice and it was useless for me.

[elevatedsoul]

thanks for all the replies

my idea with the adderall is that it would help with my fatigue and reduce the weight issue... im thinking about adderall because its cheaper, from what i saw on the internet

also the wellbutrin doesnt seem to cause any stimulating effects

i've dealt with the fatigue since before i started any meds, it just hasnt gotten any better even though im sleeping more on the seroquel

the zyprexa might of been helping with the depression which the seroquel doesnt seem to be helping with very much... the seroquel makes me sleep better than the zyprexa though

i am interested in latuda but thats an expensive one too, right?

im just trying to figure out an economical way to treat my symptoms

i've read that you can go up to 60mg buspar a day? i was thinking about asking to increase that as well so i dont have to rely on the klonopin

im really at a loss of ideas and just want some relief i know that im not supposed to be trying to RX my own scripts, but i just feel like i know what i need?

i feel that wellbutrin with a small side dose of cheap adderal would boost me in the right direction, need something for the depression symptoms (which i've read that aderall can have an effect on depression) im not sure if it would make me more irritable because i feel like im irritable because i dont feel well, depressed? i cant enjoy any activities, anhedonia? i miss playing video games

thanks again for the kind replies

[Sometimes psychotic]

Yeah Latuda is brand new so expensive.

As far as the Adderall it's pretty much going to counteract your seroquel or zyprexa or other ap.....in some people it can actually trigger hallucinations etc. so I'm less worried about you looking like a junkie and more worried about you getting worse. What you might want for weight gain would be metformin....technically it's an off label use but it's routinely given to diabetics...and seems to decrease ap induced weight gain....it basically activates skeletal muscle metabolism in the same way exercise would....