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Old Aug 27, 2009, 12:29 AM
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your question is a good one. i struggle a lot with when it's acceptable (for me) to have sui- thoughts.
Won't help you down under, but some of the health reform bills in the US will create a Board of Determining When Sui Thoughts Are Acceptable or Not.
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 03:39 AM
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definately went "there" tonight in t. all the old scripts were running against what she was saying. we felt in trouble, not accepted, voices were clammoring for SI, sui, leaving... hard hard session. had to fight against all of it. well, not "fight" - no energy when depression hits that bad - and to be in session 3 feet away from the one i wanted to see for 2 weeks =( totally depressed. totally. she definately saw it, and tried to make me "get it" that it is because she cares... and that i take what they are saying and translate it into something bad... but... i've not been that miserable in T in a long time... if ever.
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 03:40 AM
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Won't help you down under, but some of the health reform bills in the US will create a Board of Determining When Sui Thoughts Are Acceptable or Not.
*gasp!* they will?!?
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 05:27 AM
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oh Kiya, I'm sorry it was so hard. for what it's worth, I've found that after a really hard one like that, the next one is easier. Wishing you peace SAWE
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 06:27 AM
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OMG! Thanks, Deli Now that it is evening and Im pulling my thoughts together for tomorrow morning Im a little anxious...as in stomach ache anxious...it'll be OK...its only my t

How often do you see pdoc? And Austin-t?
i see both of them weekly. Austin-T on a thurs arvo, pdoc Friday morning. initially i thought it would have been better to spread them across the week, but now i appreciate that pdoc is able to do the mopping up after my difficult sessions with Austin-T.

because i am crap with timezones - i will just prod you to come back and share (either here or in another thread - your choice ) about how it went with your T, whenever it actually happens. i have tried timing these comments before and failed hopelessly, so i'll just leave the ball in your court .

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You're not allowed? Hmph. Says who? Prefer not to, oh yeah. What's big to you is valid. My T told me to practice compassion for myself. Sound like a fit for you, too?
oy. Austin-T and Tumnus' T and now Tumnus must all be living in the compassion boat . Austin-T said the same thing to me today (re: compassion and no judgement).

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Won't help you down under, but some of the health reform bills in the US will create a Board of Determining When Sui Thoughts Are Acceptable or Not.
for reals? *tries to figure out if this is another pop culture reference or not*

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definately went "there" tonight in t. all the old scripts were running against what she was saying. we felt in trouble, not accepted, voices were clammoring for SI, sui, leaving... hard hard session. had to fight against all of it. well, not "fight" - no energy when depression hits that bad - and to be in session 3 feet away from the one i wanted to see for 2 weeks =( totally depressed. totally. she definately saw it, and tried to make me "get it" that it is because she cares... and that i take what they are saying and translate it into something bad... but... i've not been that miserable in T in a long time... if ever.
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good on you for fighting, and for listening to (even if not believing) what T said. was T able to guide you back to safer place by the end of the session? how are those voices going now?
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 06:47 AM
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"Originally Posted by imapatient getting depressed during the session?
Won't help you down under, but some of the health reform bills in the US will create a Board of Determining When Sui Thoughts Are Acceptable or Not."

for reals? *tries to figure out if this is another pop culture reference or not*
Part of me is at the idea that I pulled one over on some of youse people! Kind of bummed out after something said about me at Wed. group, was feelign a boost wiht some humor.

NO there is no such Board being considered! How could you think so?

I just thought it was so preposterous that there could be a place to validate such things for us. Feelings are never wrong. There are indicators about stuff going on inside.

Now I feel bad that the satire was lost and I probably made some people feel worse--and again now. Oops.

There has been false talk of "euthanasia baords" in the US which really aren't; they're just planning guides for the elderly. Major political distortion going on, but I thought I made my Board sound so ridiculously stuffy in a gov't way to be easily seen through.

I feel so rotten now. I needed the levity myself after yesterdayand maybe I seemed to demean people today. Yikes.


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Old Aug 27, 2009, 06:49 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 07:33 AM
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and to be in session 3 feet away from the one i wanted to see for 2 weeks =( totally depressed. totally. she definately saw it, and tried to make me "get it" that it is because she cares...

OH KIYA! ((((((((Kiya)))))))

But this is a hopeful thought- that you know she cares

I agree that the next session will be better, Im sure she will help you with that
How do feel today? Any better?
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 08:42 AM
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Part of me is t the idea that I pulled one over on some of youse people! Kind of bummed out after something said about me at Wed. group, was feelign a boost wiht some humor.

NO there is no such Board being considered! How could you think so?

I just thought it was so preposterous that there could be a place to validate such things for us. Feelings are never wrong. There are indicators about stuff going on inside.

Now I feel bad that the satire was lost and I probably made some people feel worse--and again now. Oops.

There has been false talk of "euthanasia baords" in the US which really aren't; they're just planning guides for the elderly. Major political distortion going on, but I thought I made my Board sound so ridiculously stuffy in a gov't way to be easily seen through.

I feel so rotten now. I needed the levity myself after yesterdayand maybe I seemed to demean people today. Yikes.




silly bugger. no need to feel bad. wasn't surprised, as over here (until recently? may well be the case in some states) suicide is illegal and carries a sentence to be served in prison.

go figure, right .

so i would not doubt for a moment that youse stuffy american folk decide to play arbiter on what thoughts are/aren't acceptable & under what conditions. .

and who's being mean to impy in group and why for? tell deli.

my session with Austin-T went ok. i'm a crap-head, so it went not so well, but at least the basics got out. no mention of feeling sad, or sui thoughts, so the mask is still firmly in place.
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 09:05 AM
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Deli,
I can so relate to the mask.....does it not just suck that we can't just say what we are feeling???? I have often sat there and had thoughts come up as she is saying something and wished that I could just say hey, I didn't like that comment, or hey that didn't feel right at all....

I am glad you went, even if you didn't address the feelings....maybe in time you'll be able to talk about those with him..

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Old Aug 27, 2009, 11:27 AM
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over here (until recently? may well be the case in some states) suicide is illegal and carries a sentence to be served in prison.
um.... let me guess.... life sentence? good grief, who will ever understand politicians. Why on earth wouldn't they impose some counseling, if they have to assign something. grr...

[...] youse stuffy american folk
Stuffy American folk never say "youse". Dat's us workin guys, dat say youse, hey ya know?

my session with Austin-T went ok. i'm a crap-head, so it went not so well, but at least the basics got out. . . .
dear Deli,
IMHO, sometimes we should get a medal for getting the basics out. Personally I am nominated for Miss Resistance for August 2009, and it's no fun. You on the other hand are still working away at it, that's very good and I'm sure he is fine with whatever you can do.

PS - possibly this falls under Down Under lingo...is a crap-head sommat like a poo-head? (You're not a poo-head, maybe at most just a sham-poo head) I didn't slieep well last night can you tell... hugs to you dear
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Old Aug 27, 2009, 02:13 PM
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good on you for fighting, and for listening to (even if not believing) what T said. was T able to guide you back to safer place by the end of the session? how are those voices going now?
ummmm.... i guess. she just kept saying over and over that her words were meant as a loving action.
really depressed today.

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ummmm.... i guess. she just kept saying over and over that her words were meant as a loving action.
really depressed today.

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