[silenthill]

i'm so ready to turn in my T, could someone on here help me please,tell me how,i'v told her that i was thinking about it,and she said she will tell them every thing i have said at the appts, can she do that ? i'm not sure if we can take any more,husband knows about the $ and we get hit all the time just for that,now she is moveing to a bigger office place that cost more $ but she can't pay the loan off that she owes us, please help me please

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by silenthill

i'm so ready to turn in my T, could someone on here help me please,tell me how,i'v told her that i was thinking about it,and she said she will tell them every thing i have said at the appts, can she do that ? i'm not sure if we can take any more,husband knows about the $ and we get hit all the time just for that,now she is moveing to a bigger office place that cost more $ but she can't pay the loan off that she owes us, please help me please

Not sure of the whole situation but here (USA legal system and mental health system) if a mental health person is accused of wrong doing they have the right to face their accuser and they have the right to defend their self and produce evidence that shows they did nothing wrong.

If there is evidence in the file like documentation of the sessions, that shows they did nothing wrong they have every right to show that evidence to their supervisor, the ethics board and their lawyer. In their defense they have the right to also show things like any threats or derogatory comments you made verbally, written or recorded against the accused that you made at any point from the time you began working with them to the time you ended your work relationship with them.

There is HIPPA and HIPAA privacy laws but that doesn't protect the client in therapy from the legal system. Each state and mental health agency has rules and guidelines that allow them to release the files in situations like suicide, homicide, threatening behavior, legal situations. The privacy laws are there so that professionals cant go to your family and friends or other professionals for just any thing and tell them about your business.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by silenthill

i'm so ready to turn in my T, could someone on here help me please,tell me how,i'v told her that i was thinking about it,and she said she will tell them every thing i have said at the appts, can she do that ? i'm not sure if we can take any more,husband knows about the $ and we get hit all the time just for that,now she is moveing to a bigger office place that cost more $ but she can't pay the loan off that she owes us, please help me please

I just went back and read some of your older posts. Im amazed that this situaiton has been gonig on now since 2007. three years and you are still with this same therapist and in the same situation. I know its hard to make decisions like getting out of it so Im not going to say run like the wind, Im not going to try and convince you that you need to get out. three years of this you have already heard it all from all sides I'm guessing.

What I can do is make a suggestion and leave the rest up to you. your domestic violence problems there is help out there for you, its up to you to decide to do it though no one here can make you want to get away from an abusive husband and no one can force you to leave this therapist. the decisions are all yours to make.

options - Domestic violence hotline - 1−800−799−SAFE(7233) Domestic Violence website http://www.ndvh.org/

When you are ready to they can hook you up with the closest branch nearest you and help you move out of your abusive home and into a safe shelter or a new safe apartment of your choice. they also have free groups and therapy options and free legal help. they can also help you get free of this therapist when you are ready to do so.

we cant actually do anything to help other than lend our eyes to read your posts and make suggestions. only you can make the decision to get out or not.

[Gravity]

Do you have enough physical evidence to turn her in? ie checks to her, emails discussing the money, etc. If you do, then I would say turn her in. She may try to use some of your session information to defend herself so I think you've got to be able to prove what has happened up front. Good luck.

[ECHOES]

Hi silenthill, it's good to see you again

You have been with this T for.. 8 years now? That is a long relationship, whether the relationship is healthy or unhealthy. I remember that you care about your T and you are (or parts are?) close to your T, but you are also angry concerning the unpaid loans.

At one time you were gonig to see a new T but then decided against that. Have you started to see another T yet? How is your marriage situation?

Contact your state's licensing board and ask how to file a complaint.
If you have a women's advocacy group near you, they might help you so you don't have to do this alone. Also, they may be able to refer you for legal assistance with this.

[silenthill]

thank you both
she put echeck where she has it sent to us,and my husband has been copying the checks,she says she will pay off the bills when this old man client that she has been helping,(that she told me they kissed) dies because he is leaveing everything to her,he is dieing of cancer,she has been working with alot of old ppl, and i think she is useing them,if notthing someone should look into that.
we are so done with Ts,don't think we will ever go to another one

[jexa]

This is a way screwed up situation! It would be totally illegal for her to share what you have said in appointments!!!!!!! She will lose her license if she does this AND you can sue her!!!!!!!! Call the state licensing board and tell them that she threatened this!!!!!!

[silenthill]

you wouldn't believe what we know about her,like she has 20 cats and 4 labs inside of her home,she said her and her son have to eat in the car,that she can't cook because the cats have peed all over,so anyone out there that wish they knew more about your T,all i can say becareful for what you wish for

[ECHOES]

silenthill, she is lying to you.

She is dangling this in front of you to string you along.

If this man has left money to her----which I don't believe,
And if this man is dying-----which I also don't believe,
When it is discovered that he left a large amount of money to his therapist, this will be investigated.

So maybe the upside is that if you don't report her, she is going to be found out anyway.

The downside is that you are still working with a therapist who is abusive, settling for much much less than you deserve.

[silenthill]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

Not sure of the whole situation but here (USA legal system and mental health system) if a mental health person is accused of wrong doing they have the right to face their accuser and they have the right to defend their self and produce evidence that shows they did nothing wrong.

If there is evidence in the file like documentation of the sessions, that shows they did nothing wrong they have every right to show that evidence to their supervisor, the ethics board and their lawyer. In their defense they have the right to also show things like any threats or derogatory comments you made verbally, written or recorded against the accused that you made at any point from the time you began working with them to the time you ended your work relationship with them.

There is HIPPA and HIPAA privacy laws but that doesn't protect the client in therapy from the legal system. Each state and mental health agency has rules and guidelines that allow them to release the files in situations like suicide, homicide, threatening behavior, legal situations. The privacy laws are there so that professionals cant go to your family and friends or other professionals for just any thing and tell them about your business.

i guess we don't get want we would have said in the apps that would make it ok for her to ask for $ guess by her crying and saying she was going to loss her home if she couldn't get the $ from us,this loan has been goiing on for years,and she needs to pay it off,we have notthing that we have said in our appts that we are ashamed of, i'm not the one who did wrong she did,as for us still seeing her,not any more

[silenthill]

thank you all for your help
just so all of you know we are not seeing her any more,its hard because i have to pick up the checks from her,we want her out of our life

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by silenthill

i guess we don't get want we would have said in the apps that would make it ok for her to ask for $ guess by her crying and saying she was going to loss her home if she couldn't get the $ from us,this loan has been goiing on for years,and she needs to pay it off,we have notthing that we have said in our appts that we are ashamed of, i'm not the one who did wrong she did,as for us still seeing her,not any more

You can request copies of your file. that way you can see in the files what if anything she has that you may have said to her. If she wont give you the files then you can go to domestic violence. tell them the situation with your husband, conversations with domestic violence are confidential between you and DV unless there is court action. Tell them about being in therapy with this nut case in the past. you are thinking about reporting her but she's black mailing you from doing it by saying there something in the files. Sign a release form with DV to the DV therapist can then get your files from the nut case black mailer. then the DV therapist can tell you whats in the file and help you get out of the black mailing situation and help you report her to the state ethics board.

[silenthill]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

You can request copies of your file. that way you can see in the files what if anything she has that you may have said to her. If she wont give you the files then you can go to domestic violence. tell them the situation with your husband, conversations with domestic violence are confidential between you and DV unless there is court action. Tell them about being in therapy with this nut case in the past. you are thinking about reporting her but she's black mailing you from doing it by saying there something in the files. Sign a release form with DV to the DV therapist can then get your files from the nut case black mailer. then the DV therapist can tell you whats in the file and help you get out of the black mailing situation and help you report her to the state ethics board.

thank you for the help
she doesn't keep any thing in files,she told us that when we first came to her,this wouldn't be the first time she has been turnd in,even her partner at her office turnd her in,he told them she shouldn't be working as a counselor,when i looked up her name on the enternet this was there

(probation for one year. She allowed at least one employee without necessary credentials to provide services that required a credential. She must comply with terms and conditions set against her license.)

[TayQuincy]

silenthill, please turn her in or talk to someone in a position of authority who can help you turn her in! If not for yourself, do it for all those other vulnerable clients who may be in treatment with her. This woman has some serious problems. she is clearly a sociopath, one who knows how to manipulate the most vulnerable. Do you know how old her son is? If he is a minor, you can report her to a child protective agency for the unsanitary living conditions. This woman shouldn't be a therapist or a mother!

[silenthill]

Originally Posted by TayQuincy

silenthill, please turn her in or talk to someone in a position of authority who can help you turn her in! If not for yourself, do it for all those other vulnerable clients who may be in treatment with her. This woman has some serious problems. she is clearly a sociopath, one who knows how to manipulate the most vulnerable. Do you know how old her son is? If he is a minor, you can report her to a child protective agency for the unsanitary living conditions. This woman shouldn't be a therapist or a mother!

her son just turnd 16,he has a girlfriend that lives in another town,and my T said when she come here she lets them sleep togather,and she is 18
i don't think we are strong enough to do any thing and i don't think there is anyone here in my town that can help me

[silenthill]

just want you all to know we are turning T in
tomorrow

[ECHOES]

Great news! Keep us posted on how it goes.

[jexa]

Way to go!!!!! This T had it coming SO bad!

[silenthill]

did it i called and turnd her in and come to find out there is two more ppl that she did this to and they are working on them and mine :-) today
now what do we do ?

[sunrise]

Good for you, silenthill!

What is scary is that they are already working on 2 other cases like yours but yet they let her keep practicing? Even if they can't take away her license without full proof and going through the legal process, it seems like there should be some way they could warn her other clients or at least contact them to find others, like you, who have been exploited by her for years.

Originally Posted by silenthill

now what do we do ?

Can you ask the people you called what will happen next, how long it will take, etc?

[silenthill]

Originally Posted by sunrise

Good for you, silenthill!

What is scary is that they are already working on 2 other cases like yours but yet they let her keep practicing? Even if they can't take away her license without full proof and going through the legal process, it seems like there should be some way they could warn her other clients or at least contact them to find others, like you, who have been exploited by her for years.Can you ask the people you called what will happen next, how long it will take, etc?

wow i didn't even think about it that way
we were just so happy we were not alone :-(
any way i told her that T told me that they won't do anything to her
and lady said i'm pulling them now and it will be today
she also said we have help now and more one the way
maybe i should have asked more about it
she did say there is some bad apples and T is one

[sunrise]

Originally Posted by silenthill

she did say there is some bad apples and T is one

Amen to that! I am so sorry that you happened to choose that rotten apple, silenthill. This sounds like the beginning to the resolution to all of this for you. I understand how knowing she took advantage of others could make you feel better--it was not something about you that made her do this. It was just plain and simple, her rottenness--she did it to others as well. The fact that others were her victims also makes it easier to "convince" the authorities that this happened, because it is not an isolated incident or her word against yours. You did not deserve this and did nothing to ask for it. Good for you! So glad you turned her in.