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I think her brand of Naked Therapy-- and the kind of attention it attracts-- is also problematic because it sensationalizes nudity and makes it more difficult for those who use nudity in constructive ways to be taken seriously. For instance, those who use nudity in art, those who use nudity as a way of increasing body awareness and self-acceptance, etc. In fact, I think in certain contexts, there may even be a place for limited, situation-specific nudity (on the part of the client) in more legitimate kinds of therapy. Still, I don't think any licensed therapist in the US can use any kind of nudity in his/her practice without causing a license violation-- however, I can imagine contexts where it might be (theoretically) appropriate. For instance, it might be therapeutic for a woman who had breast cancer and had a mastectomy to show her scars to her therapist and sit there topless, learning to accept her new body. I can see where learning to accept one's body-- or see that someone else accepts their body-- would be a therapeutic endeavor. However, engaging in any kind of "therapy" that tries to use these circumstances to elicit arousal just seems dead wrong to me. Last edited by scorpiosis37; Jun 22, 2012 at 11:07 PM. |
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there is such a thing as a licensed sex therapist, also, who may or may not get naked or get you naked, was my understanding. but I don't believe this young lady is one of them, as she is not displaying those uh credentials.
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Yeah be sure to know she has taken classes but is NOT LICENSED beccause this is clearly unethical. Makes me cringe she calls it therapy.
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We published the article because it was a followup to a panel I organized at SXSW last year about what it means to push the boundaries of what is considered "therapy" -- due primarily to technology like mobile phones and the Internet. She actually has an interesting essay about how she came up with the idea, and seems genuinely interested in exploring the ideas set forth there.
So I don't think she's "full of it," but I do think that she's very much pushing the boundaries of what others consider "therapy," and if she continues to be serious about it, who knows? A part of what we do here at Psych Central is report on new things like this. Time -- and research -- will tell if there's anything more to it. Licensed sex therapists never get naked with their clients. A licensed sex therapist is just psychotherapy that focuses on sexual issues. If you need actual help with performing a sex act, the sex therapist may refer you to a "surrogate" if you don't have a partner. But it's not commonplace. In this day and age of viagra and the like, most men simply take a pill rather than go to therapy to try and work on any sexual issues. DocJohn
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wow...my thread got a visit from the big guy. I'm honored, thanks DocJohn!! Now I understand why the article was on PC .
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surrogates, THAT's what I was thinking of, thanks doc john!
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Besides, she's New York; the British aren't all that much less weird than we are, they are all going to the dogs apparently:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml
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yes. but my dog almost never returns my emails.
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This is the FIRST sentence on her website: "Naked Therapy is an experience that combines elements from positive and person-centered talk therapy, experiential therapy, and creative play therapy, with the added component of the client and/or therapist getting naked to facilitate more honest and unique insights through the experience of arousal." Then she goes on to say: "in Naked Therapy the patient and therapist also engage in arousal-enhancing conversations and activities." "Naked Therapy is different for every patient because it is based on the patient’s arousal, which is always personal and unique." Then, she explains the kinds of (primarily sexual/relational) problems that have brought her clients to Naked therapy: "different patients seek Naked Therapy for different reasons. Some are single and they’re trying to get better at meeting someone significant. Some are married and they’re looking for someone new to talk to. Some are having sexual or relationship problems and want help working through them. Some lack confidence around the opposite sex and need to practice and improve in that area. Some have unresolved issues from childhood that are keeping them from realizing their full potential. Some are frustrated and simply need to vent. Some are dealing with pornography addiction and want to overcome that. Some merely want to express themselves and engage in thoughtful conversation with someone who listens. Some are just curious. And some are interested in taking a long, fascinating journey through their arousal." Then she lists some (again, sexual) goals that she helps her clients work on: "- Achieving a more satisfying sex life - Improving intimate relationships - Understanding and resolving feelings about porn use - Seeing positively and harnessing the power of masturbation" I find it problematic that she helps her clients who have porn addictions resolve their FEELINGS about their excessive porn use, rather than explore what has led to the addiction or try to reduce the behavior. She talks more about this later on-- about how the FEELINGS of guilt are the problem, not the addiction. After all, isn't watching her undress feeding their addiction? I should probably also mention that I have no problem with porn itself-- I have a problem when it (or anything) becomes an uncontrollable addiction that interferes with one's ability to function in daily life. And I have a problem with "therapists" enabling clients' maladaptive behaviors. Finally, her homepage has a 5-paragraph section under the bolded heading: What’s So Important About Arousal? http://sarahwhitetherapy.com/naked-therapy Feel free to read it in its entirety. Perhaps this post is a bit of quote-overkill, but I wanted to make it clear that my comments were in fact well-founded, and based on the Naked Therapist's own words. |
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Guess what else the Naked Therapist tried to do?!!!
Pass off her "therapy" 0ff as art! She arranged to hold Naked Therapy sessions in a hotel room and have them broadcast live via webcam at an art show, for all of the art patrons to see. Can you imagine having your therapy sessions broadcast over the internet to complete strangers? ![]() I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Naked Therapy as "therapy" and as "art." Luckily, the Chelsea Art Festival took her out of the show at the last minute, recognizing that her ploy was not in fact art but, rather, a shameless attempt at self-promotion for financial gain. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1502610.html |
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I feel badly for you if your experience with arousal is limited to sexual expression only. I think that is what this woman is working toward understanding, how this life force impacts all of life, not just what happens in the bedroom.
It's sometimes taken for granted that a person who masturbates often may be doing so for stress relief caused by non-sexual circumstances but if someone gets the idea to explore this dynamic from the other end, it suddenly becomes something to make fun of or disparage out-of-hand (pardon the pun)?
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Don't know if anyone else noticed but I went to her website and read 'about' that she is an artist as well
![]() I think she's a master at marketing. She's the 'Madonna' of the 80's and the 'lady gaga' of today in the therapy world and she's crossing that with her art. Look how many people are posting on this thread for example? Doc John how much did she pay you? ![]() AND She isn't a licensed therapist ![]() The photos are professionally shot and there seems to be more emphasis on eye candy than substance. If there is real knowledge it doesn't sell or present itself that way. I'm sure the idea is exciting to some people who would love to see her naked. I personally don't see the thrill. I have enough transference issues as it is and everyone keeps there clothes on ![]() PS - as a side note I've seen lots of naked people as I have drawn them naked. I believe the human body is beautiful and can look at it that way without it being sexual. Her objective is to sell it as sexual. Isn't there enough of that everywhere already? |
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As far as being certified. Just as she stated if she got certification she would have wasted her time and money because she would have lost her certification. I'm not going to waste time compiling a list of people with out degrees or certification that have gone on to do great things from industry to medicine. Just because someone has a piece of paper doesn't mean they know what they're talking about. I work in the electrical field and find my self educating and correcting engineers and technicians with pieces of paper. I supervised people in the NAVY that out ranked me on a regular basis, even though they had a higher rank and a piece of paper to boot. Stop looking at her therapy with blinders on and see the whole picture. With all the free porn sites and web chats why would someone spend $200.00 and hour when they could spend a lot less on the internent chat rooms. Obviuosly there is more going on than sexual arousal here, but if thats all you want to see then thats your choice intentionally or subconsiously. ![]() "Naked Therapy is an experience that combines elements from positive and person-centered talk therapy, experiential therapy, and creative play therapy, with the added component of the client and/or therapist getting naked to facilitate more honest and unique insights through the experience of arousal |
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Well personally, I wouldn't pay $200/hour to someone who isn't licensed, whether they're an electrician or a T. But what others do is up to them. Not gonna judge em.
It's quite difficult to think about anything else when you are aroused, so I don't know where the therapy would come in. (just sayin)
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And I really do not believe that I am just "seeing sex" in a legitimate therapy practice. I am by no means conservative when it comes to sensuality, sexuality, bodies, or nudity. When I was 18, I lived on a hippie compound for goodness, sake! I've been to non-sexual nude events. I posed for a nude portrait for a photographer friend. I'm fully aware that nudity can be non-sexual. In fact, my first romantic partner is now a well-known author who writes books about female sensuality. I think that's great-- she says what she thinks, but she does not claim to be a therapist! Certainly, there are appropriate ways to use nudity, arousal, and sensuality in order to learn more about ourselves and work through any issues we may have. All I'm saying is that, in my opinion, this is not what Ms. White is doing. In my opinion, her attention-getting tactics, her drive to fulfill her own need for exhibitionism, and her desire for high financial profits are what are driving her practice. She is a 24-year-old who charges $200/hour without taking insurance. She charges more than a traditional therapist, who DOES have higher education, years of training, and years of work experience with clients. Does that not seem odd? Certainly, she thinks quite highly of her own abilities. I would also like to quote from the Q & A on her own website. Q: Can I masturbate during my session? Yes! Her wesbite says very little about her therapeutic approaches (nothing that isn't vague), but she very clearly advertises that you can masturbate while watching her undress! With absolutely no qualifiers about how masturbation while she watches-- for some clients-- is possibly be therapeutic or a part of their "process." Is she claiming that masturbating in front of her-- with no restrictions-- is really what is in the best interests of every client that wants to do so? I highy doubt that is true! She also states: Q: Am I allowed to make special requests? Yes. If you want me to wear something special, ask me in advance and it can be arranged. If you want me to undress in a certain way, that can also be happen. And if you want to see me from a certain angle, or you want me to do or say something specific, simply ask. Is giving in to a client's requents always in their best interests? Indulgence can certainly be a form of enabling. She also has no screenings with patients to determine whether or not she believes she can help them. Virtually all licensed therapists will first provide a free session to prospective clients to determine why they are seeking therapy, what they hope to gain, and whether there is a good fit between therapist and client. If not, the therapist will typically refer them to someone who is better qualified to help that particular client. But, for Ms. White, the only "screening process" is a credit card payment. And you have to pay BEFORE you determine if she is a good fit. Q: How do I schedule a session? To schedule a session, you need to pay first. Click here to pay for a session. Finally, from everything I've read, it just strikes me that anytime she is asked to expand upon her philosophy, she gives fluffy, nebulous answers that don't actually tell you anything. She has pages and pages and pages of writing about her therapy, but nowhere does she state what actual therapeutic techniques she uses. For anyone with any training in psychology, her answers read like fluff. It's exactly what my B/C range University students do when they are not knowledgable about the subject matter. They just fill up space while saying nothing of substance. |
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I'm not here to try and change anyones mind, but there is more than one side to every story. I try to see things from all angles, no matter how sensitive the subject.
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Scorpiosis....I hear what your saying. I actually do wonder how she can promote this as therapy. I don't know how she can claim what she claims and it still be legal. Especially with the lack of supervision and training.
But it isn't really T though...and I think most adults can see that. If some people want to fulfill their T fantasies, have at it. But they aren't innocents falling prey to some psuedotherapist..the site is blatantly obvious. |
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here in america you can find all kinds of therapy sessions being broadcast on cable on the health channel, TLC, Educational Access Channel, Oxygen channel, OWN channel, and many others.. you can also find all kinds of therapy sessions on youtube that therapists and clients alike have uploaded.. even talk shows have mental health treatment providers on their shows working with people right there on stage in front of an audience/cameras for all of the USA to watch.. Colleges too broadcast health films on their public channels and the internet. some of those films/videos are actual therapy sessions that students have gone through on all kinds of things from Alcohol, drugs, AIDS and many other topics... you may not feel comfortable having your own therapy sessions broadcast but I know many many people who are comfortable with having their therapy sessions either video taped and then broadcast/shown to others or done live. and they are out there. you just need to know how to find them. example on youtube I typed in the words "therapy sessions for depression" and got 410 results of therapy sessions treatment providers and clients have uploaded to the internet for other people interested to watch.. |
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However, it's a completely different thing. If somebody's actual therapy session is broadcast on TV or over the Internet, that does not make it an art installation or art project. There's a huge, and important, conceptual difference. |
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"Here I sit, broken-hearted, Came to sh it, and only farted." ![]() |
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