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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:33 PM
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Would you be happier if rainbow wrote: You made me miserable I'm not going to eat for a week? What's wrong with having a lunch?
Obviously nothing. Lunch is fine. I eat lunch myself. But I question the relevance of informing us with a in a thread like this. It´s all about mixed signals.

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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:36 PM
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Obviously nothing. Lunch is fine. I eat lunch myself. But I question the relevance of informing us with a in a thread.
Because I hadn't eaten breakfast yet. Time slipped away from me. I guess I like the icons. It's hard to tell when people are serious or joking sometimes.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:37 PM
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I'm not blaming anyone but myself for being online all morning and not eating. Please give me a break or are you trying to show me by example how annoying I am? If the latter, I can see it.
I took anilam's response as trying to be supportive of you and not critical of you.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:39 PM
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I'm not blaming anyone but myself for being online all morning and not eating. Please give me a break or are you trying to show me by example how annoying I am? If the latter, I can see it.
WHAT? I was on your side (i.e. supportive- posting on PC shouldn't keep you from your breakfast)-is my English so bad?
So sorry if I was not clear on that. I knew I shouldn't post much on here...
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:41 PM
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Would you be happier if rainbow wrote: You made me miserable I'm not going to eat for a week? What's wrong with having a lunch?
I didn't know if you were being supportive or not. Thank you, then. I just can't tell anymore. I'm sorry.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:43 PM
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WHAT? I was on your side (i.e. supportive- posting on PC shouldn't keep you from your breakfast)-is my English so bad?
So sorry if I was not clear on that. I knew I shouldn't post much on here...
No, your English isn't bad! I was confused by lonely's post. Please post; I was just mixed up. Thank you for supporting me.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:45 PM
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Hi Rainbow,
I really think that t and DBT leader should know about this and see about a middle ground.
I also had the thought that often people say that PC is like group therapy. I know you were in group t before, the gestalt one. If you don't mind my asking, did any of these issues around how you related to the other members come up back then? Just curious.
This might not work, but I was thinking that maybe at some point you could get a lot of an interpersonal therapy group, like the kind MU goes to. There you could get the feedback in a face to face way, and it's all contained by a therapist, or two, if there are coleaders. I just thought that maybe this could be another way to work on your connections with others, and it would be less intimate than just the relationship between you and t. Because there are others in the group, you would be working on sharing time and attention from the therapists with other members, and working on how you can ask for your needs in a healthier way. Just a thought.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:51 PM
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No, your English isn't bad! I was confused by lonely's post. Please post; I was just mixed up. Thank you for supporting me.
No need to get confused. You know I am an RN therefore into peoples healthy eating patterns I just think that theres a times and place for everything. Esp. in threads like this.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 03:52 PM
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No, your English isn't bad! I was confused by lonely's post. Please post; I was just mixed up. Thank you for supporting me.
Yeah, you've got a lot going on here.
But I still am rather cautious about my responses- it's a sensitive matter and ppl could get easily hurt- so I'm better safe than sorry. Just please know ppl here read and care without necessarily replaying. Enjoy your lunch
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 05:22 PM
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Things I have seen people do to get their threads read:

1. Write a "bump" post, along the lines of, "Bumping this thread, really stuck and hoping for more responses!"
2. Write on the couch that they're hoping for more responses to their thread, so could people take a look if they have a chance?
3. Write a PM (of course, to me, since I only read PMs to me, but this could work between any set of PC "buddies") asking someone who they know might have something to say about their particular topic to give a quick response if they can.

Do you honestly think that asking directly and politely for feedback is MORE selfish than saying, "I hate PC"? Attempting to hurt an entire group of people -- indiscriminately, at that, so including people who have tried really hard to support you -- using hurtful language in order to get what you want is one of the most selfish things a person can do. That's why I didn't respond to it immediately. I'm not going to reward that kind of behavior. You don't get to hurt me in order to get your way.
I was hurt. I didn't know how to express it. I didn't think about being selfish or not. The hurt seemed to be stronger than my ability to control it. I have to realize this forum is NOT therapy. Maybe that's my mistake. I have to step away from here when I'm angry, hurt and triggered, and try some other methods of self-soothing, distraction, etc. next time after my session. Lower my expectations. That would be the best thing to do. Why I didn't respond the first time:

1. I didn't have a set of complete thoughts to articulate.
2. Can't I see you're hurting? Yes, I can. I can see that EVERYONE ON THIS FORUM is hurting. *I* am hurting. Your pain is no more or less important than anyone else's, so we can all either respond to every single thread, or we can restrict our responses to those for which was have something thoughtful to add. The latter seems more feasible to me.
3. I've had a really really busy work week.
4. My therapy situation currently has me in a state of grief that makes me generally slow to post.
I understand yours and other people's reasons. I was not acting rationally.
That you might POLITELY request more feedback would not make you selfish. That you act as if not getting immediate non-critical feedback means that everyone here is terrible for not acknowledging YOUR pain RIGHT NOW when we all have our own lives, struggles, opinions, and yes, our own pain, is really selfish.
Rational mind and emotional mind are in opposition. I know these things yet the hurt/want sometimes explodes. I don't want to be selfish.
I am not trying to hurt you. I recognize that none of these things are fun to hear. But if you really want answers, here they are.
Thank you.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 05:30 PM
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Hi Rainbow,
I really think that t and DBT leader should know about this and see about a middle ground.
I also had the thought that often people say that PC is like group therapy. I know you were in group t before, the gestalt one. If you don't mind my asking, did any of these issues around how you related to the other members come up back then? Just curious.
This might not work, but I was thinking that maybe at some point you could get a lot of an interpersonal therapy group, like the kind MU goes to. There you could get the feedback in a face to face way, and it's all contained by a therapist, or two, if there are coleaders. I just thought that maybe this could be another way to work on your connections with others, and it would be less intimate than just the relationship between you and t. Because there are others in the group, you would be working on sharing time and attention from the therapists with other members, and working on how you can ask for your needs in a healthier way. Just a thought.
Yes, my issues were with me back then. I remember thinking that I didn't fit in the group and I wanted to very badly, so the leader had me ask the others individually how they felt, and I learned that they did not feel so differently from me! I didn't feel noticed in the group so she said everyone say "I see rainbow" or something like that. It was validating for me. I also remember the time I didn't feel I should take up so much time so the leader covered the clock. It seems like each week someone else was on the "hot seat". It was a large group, not really a therapy group, more like friends of the leader, but she was exceptional!

I have to share time with the others in DBT group and that's working out well. There is some interaction among us, and we get along. Another group would be a good idea, maybe but not while I'm doing DBT and T. Thanks for the suggestion. I was also in a women's group years ago, too. I don't remember much about it, though. Thanks for your suggestion, Adel.
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Old Nov 18, 2012, 05:31 PM
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I believe this thread has run it's course at this time. For that reason I am now closing it.

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