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Old Sep 04, 2013, 10:57 AM
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My session today touched on a few things I've posted threads about (avoiding a tantrum, T going to a funeral, calling just to hear his voicemail) so I thought I'd post a thread about it.

I said I thought about him yesterday, when I knew he was at the funeral. I told my husband I didn't know whose funeral it was and my H said it might be in the paper if it was local but I felt like I would be intruding. My T asked if I wanted to intrude and I said no. I told him I was glad he let me know he had a funeral, so I didn't freak out when he contacted me during the break to move our next session, but I didn't feel I wanted to intrude or to know who died.

My T said he wasn't sure if he told me he had to go to a funeral because he was looking after himself, me, or both of us. He said he didn't tell every client. I don't know if that means he only told me, or some others too. He said on the one hand, he didn't want me to go into fantasies about why he moved the session, and on the other hand he wanted to avoid having me reacting badly to the session being moved. On the rare occasions when he's had to rearrange sessions before, it's gone down like a lead balloon.

I told him I did briefly fantasise that he deliberately booked the funeral on Tuesday so he'd have to move my session. I felt really embarrassed sharing that, as obviously it's nothing to do with me. My T was great though. He said: "Oh yes, and I murdered the person specially so we'd need a funeral in the first place." Then he said it was great that I shared that and I shouldn't feel shame about it.

I told him that I saw off a potential rupture because I knew he had the funeral coming up. How I wrote out all the reasons why I was upset and angry with him, then went through and figured out what they were really about, why I was triggered. It was mostly me taking things completely the wrong way thanks to transference and I could see that, could see I was being reminded of feelings at other times. There was one thing that was about him, but I recognised that he didn't deliberately or thoughtlessly try to hurt me. He just said the wrong thing, because that happens sometimes, and it doesn't mean I can't trust him.

I asked if that meant I'd get some kind of therapy badge for seeing through transference. T said I was getting really good at it and I could have a gold star. I kept fishing for more praise so he asked - seemingly quite seriously - if I needed another star. I said I was just polishing that one.

I got confused as my session had started at a different time that usual. I asked my T to hold my hand and then I started crying because I wanted him to hold it differently so my hand was underneath and I felt stupid about how badly I wanted that. T said it made sense to him. He said it was interesting how I got confused about the time, thought the session was almost over and then wanted to hold his hand, as we've figured out that I often want him to hold my hand or hug me near the end as if I'm trying to hold onto him until next time.

We talked about how I've been having these awful body memories, ie physical flashbacks, of CSA. Stabbing pains, that kind of thing. I said that was why I rang to hear his voicemail, and asked if it was okay to do that. T said yes, but not too late at night please in case he forgets to turn his phone off. Then he asked if I wanted him to record his voicemail greeting as a memo on my iPhone. I said yes, then hid - picked my sweater up off the floor and put it over my face - as I was embarrassed that he was doing something for me. He even played it back to check it worked.

Then we talked about some more difficult stuff I don't want to write out. At the end of the session, I got really confused and started looking around for my shoes. I've been seeing my T since last year and have left my shoes on the shoe rack in reception every time so it was curious that I forgot and looked for them today.

Not sure how this ended up being such an essay, oops.

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Old Sep 04, 2013, 11:58 AM
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Hi, I am glad that he recorded his vm onto your phone, I have my t vm on my phone and it helps alot. I am glad you processed the funeral event with him as I understood in your post, and as you know I am understand the whole transference thing right about now or trying to. Sending you hugs.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 01:44 PM
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I have an embarrassing question -- how do you record someone's voicemail as a memo on your iphone? Not that ummmm, I plan to do that with my T's voicemail or anything. errrr. I just want to know for no particular reason. cough.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 01:56 PM
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It's not his actual exact voicemail message. He used the voice memo app and recorded himself repeating what his vm greeting says. Sorry not to have a way to record the actual greeting!
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 01:58 PM
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Aww lol. Your T sounds very nice/nurturing/ and supportive - and your session sounds quite productive. =] Good for you for seeing through the transference, and super cool of him to do that voice mail!
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 02:15 PM
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I briefly felt rejected as I felt like he was doing that to stop me calling him. But he asked if I wanted him to record it - I could have said no. And he said I could call so long as it's not late at night in case he forgets to turn his phone off.

I can envisage a situation where I do still call, if I'm really struggling. The memo is great but I know I'm not actually connecting with his actual phone. It does mean I can play it repeatedly if I want though, without phoning him over and over.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 02:24 PM
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Somone on one of the other threads mentioned Slydial - maybe you could look into it? Except - not so slighly. Just tell T what you're doing. =]
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 02:58 PM
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Somone on one of the other threads mentioned Slydial - maybe you could look into it? Except - not so slighly. Just tell T what you're doing. =]
Sadly I think Slydial is U.S. only. I checked when I read that thread.

tinyrabbit, your T is one of the good ones and you are incredible, to be talking to him about this. Go you!!
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 03:01 PM
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wow what a packed session .thank you for sharing it with us.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 03:40 PM
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Is sly dial where you go straight to voicemail? My T seems to let all calls go to vm during his working day anyway.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 03:55 PM
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You're doing great, Tiny Rabbit!
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 03:55 PM
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I cover my face when T records things for me, too! I wonder if the reason he offered to record it is so that you can listen to it whenever you want, as often as you want. That way you don't have to worry about the time, or phone charges, or what have you.

I'm glad you had a session where you were heard so compassionately.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 06:36 PM
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I'm always impressed by your insight, TinyRabbit. This post is no exception. Way to go!!
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 06:52 PM
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What a great session. You guys are really so in tune with each other. I love his, "I murdered the person". My t yesterday called this carrying an idea to its logical absurdity. We do that a lot! But I think our kid brains did that a lot too.
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Old Sep 04, 2013, 08:04 PM
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Your T sounds amazing and you are a smart, insightful and honest patient.Sounds like you two fit perfectly!!
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Old Sep 05, 2013, 10:17 AM
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I cover my face when T records things for me, too!
Do you have any idea why you do it? I haven't figured this out yet.

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Your T sounds amazing and you are a smart, insightful and honest patient.Sounds like you two fit perfectly!!
Please remind me of this next time transference gets to me...!
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Old Sep 05, 2013, 08:50 PM
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Do you have any idea why you do it? I haven't figured this out yet.
I think I'm ashamed to be needing (and worse, accepting) support. I always say I feel "stupid," but the actual feeling is probably vulnerability. The recordings get at such a primal need, you know? I'm embarrassed to need them, and getting them is just too much to bear--I have to hide my face. Like somehow that will keep T from seeing my need!
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Old Sep 05, 2013, 09:02 PM
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We finally get to play peek-a-boo with someone who won't take it as an opportunity to get away from us, who will actually stay. After reading these posts today, at the end of my session, I wanted to give my stuffie a big kiss (then I thought about all the other kids who play with him!) and I told t, who looked a little teary-eyed at it, thanked me, and blew me a kiss. And then I left!
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Old Sep 06, 2013, 01:12 AM
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I wanted to give my stuffie a big kiss (then I thought about all the other kids who play with him!)
ack. I want to come spritz the stuffed thing with some industrial spill cleanser type substance.
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Old Sep 06, 2013, 10:14 AM
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I think I'm ashamed to be needing (and worse, accepting) support. I always say I feel "stupid," but the actual feeling is probably vulnerability. The recordings get at such a primal need, you know? I'm embarrassed to need them, and getting them is just too much to bear--I have to hide my face. Like somehow that will keep T from seeing my need!
This totally sums up how I feel as well. This whole thing with the jumper has made me realise how having needs makes me feel shame, fear and disappointment.

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We finally get to play peek-a-boo with someone who won't take it as an opportunity to get away from us, who will actually stay.
Wow, Hankster. Thank you. This is a remarkable insight - did you hear about those studies about insecure attachment where they looked at how infants reacted to people's faces? I hadn't even thought about this. It's kind of an object permanency thing, in a way. And I think it was a very young part of me that did that.
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