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Old Nov 09, 2013, 03:39 PM
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Hey PM why don't you show her this post (or rewrite it in letter form) and check in about it at the next visit. I think it's important for you to check with her what she's feeling and thinking rather than guessing, forgetting that you guessed and having your fears become the "truth" in your mind. It is your job to take risks but it's hers to help you feel safe and try to meet you where you're at.
I can see it happening so easily that I would accept my fears as truth, so I will definitely have to talk about it with her. Thanks, Favorite Jeans.

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Old Nov 09, 2013, 03:53 PM
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The neutrality also allows the client space to be herself without fear of rejection or abandonment. The therapist does not judge or be 'reactive'. That allows the patient to develop a strong sense of self because she now has a worry-free zone in which she can feel free to express herself in both actions and words, rather than consciously or unconsciously changing depending on what the therapist does or doesn't do/how the therapist reacts or doesn't react. The lack of judgment and emotional reactivity amounts to unconditional acceptance of the patient's emotions, thoughts, dreams and fantasies. I think this therapy is best for those of us who grew up with enmeshment, where caregivers didn't allow for the child to be autonomous. Often these parents grew up in a similar atmosphere, so the cycle continues.
Thank you for sharing more about psychoanalytic theory. My T has a client-centered/humanistic approach. I can see what you're saying about how the neutrality lets the client feel safe to express his/herself. Now that my T has expressed frustration, I know it's always going to be at the back of my mind and I will be worried about whether I'm doing well enough or not. I'm also going to be afraid to tell her that I'm worried about opening up about something. I can foresee it causing problems in the future... I'm still glad she said something though.

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PurpleMystery, I am sorry you are feeling so terrible. I know therapists feel frustrated, and I think it's ok to tell patients about it if it's done in a way that benefits the client. Here it seems like either she was expressing how difficult it was seeing this to show how much she cares, how much she wants to help you, but the other thing that crossed my mind is that maybe she is (unconsciously) making you responsible for her feelings here?

I hope you can give her the benefit of the doubt and try to work through this. But I wanted to let you know that a therapist I once had did subtle things to regularly 'guilt' or 'shame' me (which I didn't know at the time), but now I know that behavior results from a T who hasn't worked through all her issues. If this isn't a pattern with her, than maybe the source of these difficult feelings is not her issues.

It must feel awful to fear T is giving up on you. I didn't see anything you have written here that conveys that message, so maybe it is projecting your feelings that she let you down? If so, that is a healthy thing to acknowledge and work through. I hope that is all it is. Best to you.
I wasn't able to put it into words, but I honestly think you may be right that she could have unconsciously tried to make me responsible for her feelings. It's impossible to know for sure, but she had a very different tone from usual. I felt like I was a kid being chastised, though it could have been me projecting my feelings. She just seemed like she didn't believe in me anymore, when she always has. Before she has always been so patient, so accepting, and careful about not pushing too hard. Hmm, I will have to consider this carefully.

I'm sorry to hear about your T that tried to guilt/shame you. I don't think that this is a pattern with my T. It's probably just me projecting my feelings, but definitely something to talk more about next week. Thanks for your input!
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Old Nov 09, 2013, 04:40 PM
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T relationships are tough. They are not like other relationships.
I often think that some Ts cling too hard to the rules.
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Old Nov 09, 2013, 05:42 PM
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You seem to have a healthy attitude about the situation. I'm seeing many positives here. You have a lot of courage to be able to think through this, and face your fears.

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I agree that I will know that the positives that she says are true only if she is honest with me about the negatives. This has unnerved me, but I do think I will respond to it by trying harder.
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I think I would rather her be honest, because people in real life are going to feel frustration with me the way I am now. I guess I need to learn how others will respond to me and see what I can do to change that.
These feelings say a lot. This is related to what I said earlier about healthy attachment and sense of self. Feeling like you need to change yourself to appease others. I understand these feelings having grown up in an atmosphere of extreme codependency and enmeshment. My mother blamed her children for her problems and victimized herself, so we were always responsible for how she was at any given time. She was also very demanding and had to control the environment, even looking through our stuff, diaries and everything. If we were 'bad' at the store, it was our fault her day or weekend was ruined. She had no boundaries.

I wonder if you had to grow up in an enmeshed environment too? Maybe you would want to talk to T about feeling the need to change to be accepted?

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Now that my T has expressed frustration, I know it's always going to be at the back of my mind and I will be worried about whether I'm doing well enough or not. I'm also going to be afraid to tell her that I'm worried about opening up about something. I can foresee it causing problems in the future... I'm still glad she said something though..I don't think that this is a pattern with my T. It's probably just me projecting my feelings, but definitely something to talk more about next week.
I see your strengths and it seems you have a good alliance with T, so I was thinking that maybe this could be a rupture that leads to a stronger bond? Sometimes these ruptures can be a catalyst for positive change. Please let us know how it goes.
Thanks for this!
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Old Nov 09, 2013, 09:25 PM
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CantExplain- Agreed, therapy relationships are tough. I feel like I'm still learning how to come to terms with it.

Autumn Skies-I'm sorry to hear about the environment that you grew up in. I can see how this would cause the need to change for others. I did not have an enmeshing environment, though I did grow up with a father that was not accepting, and often shamed me. So I'm sure this has influenced it. Thank you, I hope you're right and that it will lead to positive change. I'll keep everyone updated!
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