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Old Apr 11, 2015, 06:26 PM
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Funerals were just an example of it. Christmas mass, passover seders, ball games in bars - any place where people, often strangers, gather to share a common experience - often ritual or ceremony or tradition.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 06:31 PM
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Yeah, group identity, shared sense of self, belonging, community, whatever. Ritual to grownups is similar to a bedtime routine for kids. It makes them feel safe.

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Old Apr 11, 2015, 06:34 PM
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It is the group part I don't get as a personal thing - I understand it intellectually and the theories behind it.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 07:00 PM
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Okay - I intellectually understand the purpose of memorial services and group behavior and ceremony and ritual = but I just don't get what it is supposed to do internally. Like when you go someplace and everyone is crying and clutching each other- I am always like wtf? I don't know what other people are doing. Like lining up for the funerals of dead politicians or rock stars. Or religious stuff, or military or graduations.
I know what you mean. I didn't cry over Princess Diana either.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 07:21 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, group identity, shared sense of self, belonging, community, whatever. Ritual to grownups is similar to a bedtime routine for kids. It makes them feel safe.
Not having had a bedtime routine other than "turn off that tv and go to bed!", now im not surprised i dont get it either.

But i was sad when lady diana passed. It took like 3 or 4 days before i woke up without feeling sad to begin the day. I still feel sad about John Kennedy Jr. I remember turning on the tv that saturday morning and saying out loud, "oh please let it be Ted" but i knew it wasnt.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 07:29 PM
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OK my phone won't seem to let me quote text but stopdog, I am SO thankful I am not the only one who feels that way about public rituals. I'm from the east coast and 9/11 remembrances are a big thing...people cry and stuff...and I always feel vaguely like something is wrong with me. It was a terrible thing that happened. But I wasn't there. No one I know was there. I didn't lose anyone important to me. I don't understand where all that emotion comes from about something you were never a part of....I'm glad it's not just me
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 07:30 PM
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iPad is running low on charge. Too lazy to get off couch to get charger...
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 09:08 PM
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What a sweet calico kitty! shes giving mama kissies!!!

You didnt say and i dont want to pry, but i hope t went okay last night (((healed)))
T went well.. He let me talk my way through all of the things that were brought up after learning what I did. I think it was one of our more quiet sessions, lots of silent breaks, etc. It worked well.

I do think though, I am kind of pushing my feelings down still. Kinda feel separated from the whole thing at this point.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 09:26 PM
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(((Healed))) Go easy on yourself. It'll take time
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 09:29 PM
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Does anyone know why Sofia the First sounds like a chipmunk?
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 09:44 PM
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I don't get group bonding. One thing nobody mentioned yet which I really don't understand is group bonding over professional sports. Not necessarily the sport itself; watching baseball can be fun, but: taking partial credit when one's local team wins, the idea of a sports team bringing an area together, the whole idea that people have to be brought together because they live in proximity to each other in the first place. Just weird.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 10:34 PM
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the whole idea that people have to be brought together because they live in proximity to each other in the first place. Just weird.
Isn't that what patriotism is and what wars are fought because of? People bonding together because of where they were born?
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 11:11 PM
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Isn't that what patriotism is and what wars are fought because of? People bonding together because of where they were born?

That's the downside of it. The upside is the ability to work together to create advanced civilizations.

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Old Apr 11, 2015, 11:17 PM
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And create better ways of killing and maiming because of an odd sense of belonging because of where one was born.
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 11:24 PM
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How'd your thit kho turn out Stopdog?
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 11:28 PM
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It was very good. Now that you are in your own place again- are you an experimental cooker?
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Old Apr 11, 2015, 11:53 PM
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I like to cook alright but I don't get much opportunity to experiment. I'm pretty good at Vietnamese though because the stbx was pickier than a child and would only eat the kind of things that mama used to serveCouch 92 Found my shoe
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 03:26 AM
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That's the downside of it. The upside is the ability to work together to create advanced civilizations.

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Are advanced civilizations really an upside? From the POV of any of the countless species that are going extinct?
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Isn't that what patriotism is and what wars are fought because of? People bonding together because of where they were born?
Yes, and I have always found patriotism, at best, absurd.

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Old Apr 12, 2015, 07:04 AM
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Sitting on the couch looking at the forecast for this week.. 60s and and 70s and sunshine for a lot of those days. It is looking my afternoons at school will be spent on the playground with my students!! They are so eager to get out and run around!!! I am so excited to get outside again in warm weather.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:18 AM
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Smoking some pastrami today. I am going to try smoking it and then steaming/pressure cooking it. First time for that combo.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:47 AM
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Are advanced civilizations really an upside? From the POV of any of the countless species that are going extinct?

The countless species that are going extinct don't have the thinking capacity to have a point of view. So this is really another of our problems.

Of course there are pros and cons to large thinking brains too. If we didn't have 'em there'd be no need for therapy, because we wouldn't have the capacity to think ourselves into such ruts. But then again, we'd have gone extinct millennia ago, because without our brain we wouldn't stand a chance against the competition and other animals don't have our ability to both care and do something about it.

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I cosign a day locked in the bedroom if that's what you need.

I eventually got up after talking things through with someone. Then took the day to go do things by myself.
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Old Apr 12, 2015, 10:50 AM
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Sitting on the couch looking at the forecast for this week.. 60s and and 70s and sunshine for a lot of those days. It is looking my afternoons at school will be spent on the playground with my students!! They are so eager to get out and run around!!! I am so excited to get outside again in warm weather.

As your weather improves, ours deteriorates. Soon it'll be too hot to play outside here

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