[emptyspace]

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Do you think your T views "the work" differently than you do?
Who's perspective is more accurate?

For example, you might see showing up for appointments as "the work," but your T might see it as working through the transference that is making it hard for you to show up at therapy.

Do you think that the difference in views could cause problems in the therapeutic relationship?

[stopdog]

In that the therapist believes she does work, yes. The woman refused to explain what was meant by the phrase - so if it is problem what I think about what goes on, I think the fault lies with her.

We don't really use the word "work" with each other, but I think we are mostly on the same page. I would guess that a difference in perceptions about it could create problems, but that is where communication is needed.

[unaluna]

We talk about the work a lot. He has to bring me up to speed a lot, in that i dont realize or recognize what is going on behind the scenes so to speak. For example, after a few years, i made a comment about how reliable the bus was and how surprising that was to me. He gave me a look like, what am i chopped liver? So we talked about how my parents unreliability towards me colored my view of the world, and how ts reliability changed that view for me. So the work can be very subtle. Stopdog you are not wrong in thinking things may be being done to you. But i think trying to control or even count the ramifications would be impossible. Its like contracting for electrical service in your house - who knows how you will use that electricity? l

[Perna]

I'm sure T viewed the work differently, especially at the beginning. I think the real work is the growing closer together about one's view of the work so by the end of therapy both people are on the "same" page. It is kind of like two horses learning to work in tandem; at first they have different jobs, therapist horse is trying to match themselves to client horse and mitigate some of client's lunges in the wrong direction so that the therapy cart does not turn over but as client horse settles down and realizes this tandem work does not interfere with who s/he is, that bad things are not happening (cart turning over or therapist horse trying to force client horse in a "different" direction) and starts to understand what is wanted, is calm enough to pay better attention to the whole, then matching therapist's steps forward can occur and trusting therapist occurs to when a change of pace happens (going from walking to trotting to running) client horse can catch on faster and the work goes smoother.

[stopdog]

Originally Posted by hankster

. Stopdog you are not wrong in thinking things may be being done to you. But i think trying to control or even count the ramifications would be impossible. Its like contracting for electrical service in your house - who knows how you will use that electricity? l

I know I am right that they try to do stuff to you without consent - they admit it in their books. I have a belief I can prevent it if not control it. And I do know how I will generally use electricity too.

[ScarletPimpernel]

I think if you and your T have different views of "the work" then it would be best to sit down and talk about that. Probably have a goal setting session too. You can't be on the same page as someone else if you don't tell them. They aren't mind readers.

[divine1966]

My therapy seems much less complicated than what I am reading on here. We don't discuss "therapy" in therapy. I am just talking about what I have on my mind ( typically areas where I need improvement) and we sometimes discuss and sometimes I need very specific suggestions ( For example I don't sleep well and t helps me with specific strategies as I don't want Meds ). Sometimes there are some painful things to discuss etc we don't discuss "work" per se.

I am not sure what different views t might be having on what I am doing in life. things I need to improve on take time. T knows and I know. These are things I came to therapy with. Not like she pointed them out to me. I doubt she expects me to do something much differently

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[brillskep]

My therapist and I view therapeutic work pretty much the same. We do have our differences too of course, and even the few differences make it somewhat harder to work together. Other than that, we believe in pretty much the same type of therapy. I can't see myself working well with a therapist going a different direction than I am, at least certainly not in the long run.

[MusicMike]

Originally Posted by emptyspace

.
Do you think your T views "the work" differently than you do?
Who's perspective is more accurate?

For example, you might see showing up for appointments as "the work," but your T might see it as working through the transference that is making it hard for you to show up at therapy.

Do you think that the difference in views could cause problems in the therapeutic relationship?

I'm not clear on what you are saying about the work. First, apparently you are saying it is hard for you to show up to therapy? Why is that, from your perspective?

Second, do you believe there are any transference emotions? If not, is that why you disagree that working through them is the work of therapy? Or are there transference emotions but you believe they don't need to be worked through?

[FranzJosef]

I would expect that T and patient must inevitably see it differently.
It's like the blind men and the elephant. Both sides are right but no one sees the full picture.

[Crescent Moon]

Originally Posted by stopdog

I know I am right that they try to do stuff to you without consent - they admit it in their books. I have a belief I can prevent it if not control it. And I do know how I will generally use electricity too.

I haven't read many books on the subject, and I am very interested in hearing about the types of things they deliberately do to us without our consent. You often talk about it.. and I haven't been able to figure out what kinds of things they might do.

My t uses the phrases "the work" and "the process" often. I think that in the beginning I saw it differently than she did because I just really didn't get it yet I guess. We're pretty much on the same page now. Although, she often used to say when I would thank her for her help that "You do all the work, all I do is show up" but I don't believe that for a minute. I know it is work putting up with me as a client!

[Restin]

My T said recently that she rarely brings up "inner child" transference directly with clients because they don't know how to do it. I don't know how it's possible to work through a transference relationship without discussing it, but I suppose my t knows what she's doing. I think maybe it's the nurturing, empathic relating that leads to improvement. I guess it depends on whether a patient can delve deeply into himself, or maybe has taken psychology in college and knows the terminology. Therapists can work on different levels with different clients, in other words.

[AncientMelody]

My "work" is pretty straightforward and my psychiatrist and I are on the same page with it. Primarily the "work" is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques and other journaling. Self care as well: exercise, getting enough sleep, learning boundaries w/ people pleasing and when to say no. Taking my meds as prescribed.

[dismantle.repair]

I think it might be perspective..

She says the 'work' is different per client. It's a product of the therapeutic relationship that we must foster together, as well as the goals we set. I think she put more effort into this than I did.