[Gavinandnikki]

In the US, if someone verbalizes words that suggest " harm to self or others", it's considered serious mental illness and should be treated by trained professionals.

Can't vouch for the quality of those professionals, but it is something that should be discussed.

If you kill yourselves, family will be devastated whether you think they will or not.

If you kill someone else, off to jail you go.

This post is not in reference to anyone. It's just I saw 3 suicidal teens in my 9 hour shift tonight. Broke my heart. None had any support at all.

Just a vent, I guess.

[PinkFlamingo99]

Were you able to get them follow up care?

[stopdog]

In my jurisdiction, in the US, for an adult - it is, luckily, not quite that black and white or simple. There is more required before they are able to force someone to submit to the western medical profession than a mere verbal suggestion. People make statements all the time about harm to themselves and others that are off the cuff or the product of frustration/anger etc and not signs of mental illness.

I also consider it something someone might talk about as an interesting subject to explore in a theoretical manner.

[Perna]

Yes, what stopdog says. I know as a young adult when I was really messed up I would express suicidal thoughts but that was because I did not know how to express my need for help any other way. I did not know how to express myself and my range of emotions yet before I was taught how and practiced in therapy. We have to learn about emotions and their expression growing up, just like everything else, and, unfortunately, I don't think many get good quality lessons in emotional subjects these days.

[Gavinandnikki]

Originally Posted by PinkFlamingo99

Were you able to get them follow up care?

Yes, but all inpatient. They all had seriously OD'd on some major bad meds. Also, none had any family support. I swear, sometimes I want to commit violence on many parents because of their complete obliviousness towards their child's mental illness/ issues/problems.

Many, not all by any means, are so absorbed in their own "issues" they are blind to their childreds's problems.

[rainbow8]

Pam, how are you doing with your own medical problems and with your parents? Are you managing all right? Did you look for any kind of support group for yourself? Hugs!

[LonesomeTonight]

Originally Posted by Gavinandnikki

Yes, but all inpatient. They all had seriously OD'd on some major bad meds. Also, none had any family support. I swear, sometimes I want to commit violence on many parents because of their complete obliviousness towards their child's mental illness/ issues/problems.

Many, not all by any means, are so absorbed in their own "issues" they are blind to their childreds's problems.

Just wanted to say that sometimes it could be that the parents are in denial. Like it's not that they don't care, they could love their children deeply, but they don't want to see or accept that something could be wrong with them. It seems that mental illness is so much harder for many people to accept as compared to physical illness. I think this was the case with my parents, that they really loved me (and still do), but didn't want to face what was going on with my OCD and anxiety, and then, later, depression, until they were basically forced to.

I hate referring to any suicide attempt as a "cry for help," because that seems to imply that it's attention seeking rather than an expression of genuine pain and desperation. But that might be the case for these teens. Glad you were there to help them. As much as I wish I could do a job like yours, I know I couldn't handle it.

[Gavinandnikki]

Started back to work at 75%, 2 shifts so far have been difficult. Not patient care, but my speed is way too slow and I can't do any of the surgical and orthopedic procedures that I love to do.

Now, both mom and dad are in Hospice, different facilities, 25 miles apart.

I'm having massive anxiety!!!!! Pulling my car out of the garage yesterday, I crashed and significantly damaged the garage door, it's railings and my car door.

My biggest problem right now is overall overwhelming anxiety and fatigue.

I know things will improve, but not fast enough for me.

I HAVE to go into one day at a time mode. I just must or I'm going to need to be locked up or put a gun to my head. I am not suicidal.

Thank you so much for asking about me. You made me feel better��

[PinkFlamingo99]

Sounds like so much stress, and a lot of stress at your job too. Do you have things that help you calm down? Puppy cuddling? You just sound so overwhelmed and exhausted. can you sleep okay? Xox. Take care of yourself too. You can't just look after everyone else.

[Gavinandnikki]

Originally Posted by PinkFlamingo99

Sounds like so much stress, and a lot of stress at your job too. Do you have things that help you calm down? Puppy cuddling? You just sound so overwhelmed and exhausted. can you sleep okay? Xox. Take care of yourself too. You can't just look after everyone else.

Oh, I sleep with 3 dogs. Weighing from 7-110 pounds. My Maltese, though, is my heart. He sleeps on my neck or head. He loves me so much and the feeling is mutual ❣

The Hank you for your support.

[PinkFlamingo99]

Originally Posted by Gavinandnikki

Oh, I sleep with 3 dogs. Weighing from 7-110 pounds. My Maltese, though, is my heart. He sleeps on my neck or head. He loves me so much and the feeling is mutual ❣

The Hank you for your support.

My maltese weighs 7 lbs but manages to steal 75% of the pillow... I don't get it. She's a princess.