Couch 111 - The Simple, Clear, and Informative Couch

Hey, I like Achilles. Though I remember in Great Books in college no one else did - "what a jerk!" "He's just like my ex-boyfriend" etc.

Oedipus? Odysseus? Theseus? Heracles?

Not Oedipus at all - he deserved everything he got. I always found him to be whiny and self-indulgent.

True. All he had to do was not kill anyone and not get married. How hard is that?

And after stabbed his own eyes out, through sheer over-reaction histrionics, then his daughters had to take care of him.

I come back to the couch after taking the meatloaf out of the oven and cleaning up the kitchen to find conversation that's totally flying over my head. I need to go back to school and get me some more education. Oh also I've been trying to find some good, logical information about this transference carp (using unaluna's word) but I can't find squat that tells me what I want to know. Pbbbt to the interwebs. On that note, Artie out! 5 am is gonna come too quickly! Night couch!

Looking for information on transference on the intertubz is like going down the rabbit hole. It's how I ended up here actually...
'Night Art

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I think logical transference may be an oxymoron.

Lol! Excellent observation Stopdog!

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Well it's not validating, to begin with.

I would ask for clarification.

Interesting conversation.. I remember very little about all the Greek gods and such.

I had a great t session yesterday..it was heavy, but good. Now a 2 week break from t, but t did encourage me to email while I am on vacation if I need help processing everything we talked about. Thankful for a good t today.

Hope your dog will be OK, Mkac

True story: last night on TV, I watched a Greek man and an Italian man argue about whose mythology came first, and whose was an imitation, while speaking Korean, with English subtitles of course! *dizzy*

I studied it in 5th grade, and that was many many moons ago. I bow to the couch's superior knowledge.

Good luck with your phone appt, Breadfish. Thinking of you.

mkac, that is very sad about your dog.

I'm glad to hear your T session went well, healed!

MRI of shoulder complete. Not sure if I want them to find a problem or not. It would be nice if there was something they could fix . but then again I don't want to.have surgery...

I talked to T in our session about the 'don't matter' comment. It was a little painful to get through but I understand what/how she meant it and why. Instead of always saying I'm sorry I'm ********* she wants to help me make little changes until they reach big changes that refocuses my 'cycle' so I don't have to say 'I'm sorry'. It's okay to feel it but I need to do something to change instead of letting myself be treated the way I am and apologize for letting others treat me the way they do.

Not sure if any of that made any sense but I'm glad I talked to her about it. It was painful and we were trying to understand each other but she is patient and we worked through it.

I have a lot to process from the past 2 days of sessions.

Thanks for the pocket riders. But I didn't tell my pdoc the secret. Thinking emailing it to him.
I also forgot to mention two other relevant things. Stupid me.

omg i cant do this again this week things are so bad again with my son .i cant do this .i cant .

i put a call into my T again to see if i can see her if she has time today. i have a feeling she will think it is linked to me forgetting yesterday so probably wont see me but i have to try i can do this again this week . it will kill me something has to break .

Trying to deal with the state is like talking to a wall. UGH! I hate this.

Sending hugs to all who need/want them.

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True! I'd settle for a logical explanation of how to get out of it... That doesn't involve talking about it with the object of said transference... As i stomp my feet and try to demand magic wands...

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I sometimes wonder if I am very hard-hearted when I observe the interactions between others and view it like everyone is just engaging in senseless exchange. My lack of urge to want to save others sometimes seems to be opposite of the rest of the world. Stop - I want to shout - and attend to your own self instead and to better end. I suppose the one thing in my favor is I seem to be taking my own advice and not trying to interfere either. It is not that I don't want everyone to be okay - I do - it is just that I don't think their choices are any of my business and don't impact me at all so I have no need to get personally worked up.

When I go out today to do some work, I am going to stop by the liquor store to purchase some dubonnet - which for some reason is something I have never tried. I am planning on indulging in a small gin and dubonnet tonight.

I have not found therapists or therapy to deal much in logic. Thus I have no faith that they have a logical explanation for the experiences even where said experience is common enough for them to have created a label for it.