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Apr 09, 2016, 08:34 AM
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I read a lot that a label doesn't matter.
For me it does...because I want validation that my feelings, behaviors and actions...are not totally "choices" that I make but a chemical dysfunction in the brain... I'm 52 and for years...I have been told I have depression. Really depression lasts for 30 years? I have taken some of the tests here on psyche central. I did not like that I tested high on the Narcissist test...and I tested high on the BPD and the Bioploar tests...but it seems every therapist I have dealt with over the years is hesitant to use a "label". Well, if they would pinpoint some sort of condition...maybe they could treat me accordingly and I would get better. I can not switch therapist again..because I just switched 6 months ago after being with another therapist for over 10 years. I had to switch the other therapist for 2 reasons..1...she didn't take my new medical coverage...and 2...she didn't work with a pdoc...so my primary care was issuing my meds. Then I had to switch my primary care after 15 years...because he was not paying attention to various requests from my insurance company to fill out paperwork....And another reason I need a label is for this insurance company to continue paying me benefits. And that is another reason why I can't switch right now because I can't have it look like I am searching for the "right words for my diagnosis". But, I do clearly suffer from many mental conditions that have been labeled for over 10 years...but I do think I really have BPD or Bipolar...and I am being told no for the Bipolar....I'm thinking my next visit...to see if I can get her to come on this site and take the Biopolar, BPD and Narcassit test with me...because when I was answering questions...I thought...I have talked to her about every question and given her examples. |
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Apr 09, 2016, 10:05 AM
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A personality disorder may not be sufficient to get benefits. Many insurance companies deny treatment if the only diagnosis is a personality disorder.
Sometimes therapists and pdocs make a diagnosis but don't share it with the client because they believe it would be harmful. I have no idea if this is the case for your therapist but it might be something to discuss. There is persistent depression that used to be called dysthymia. That can last for thirty years too. I hope you can find answers that are helpful to you. Internet quizzes are no substitute for professional judgment though. Sent from my mobile device using Tapatalk.
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Apr 09, 2016, 10:31 AM
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If you seriously want a diagnosis, your insurance company may pay at least partially for diagnostic testing through a psychologist who does it. My pdoc sent me some years back for testing to double check my diagnosis and be sure he wasn't missing something. He wasn't, but it was helpful to know we were on the right track.
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Apr 09, 2016, 01:57 PM
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insurance companies now do recognize all mental disorders listed in the DSM 5. (those are what you will find in my first link at the bottom of my post) short version insurance companies require a diagnostic code before they can pay the bill for treatment. (each insurance company has a list of code number and corresponding with those code numbers are how much is in that patients insurance plan for paying for that code number if the patient needs more then treatment providers have to fill out forms to extend that so that the insurance company can continue to pay the bills for that code number that the patient is being treated for) to get a diagnosis for most mental disorders in the USA a primary care physician refers you to a psychiatrist for diagnostic evaluations. which psychiatrist you see will be which ever ones listed in your insurance member booklet under treatment providers that accept that insurance plan. Your primary care physician will know which psychiatrists are on your insurance plan simply because you most likely are not the only patient with that insurance company they treat, after the referral from your primary care physician goes through you will receive a call from that psychiatrists office or a letter saying to schedule an appointment with that psychiatrist. or your primary care physician will set it up depending upon the type of insurance you have. then you go to the testing appointments where you will take all kinds of verbal written and computerized tests, sign forms some of which will be release of information forms so that the evaluating psychiatrist can have access to your full medical and mental health history. then after the tests are completed (some tests can be done the same day, some tests take multiple visits to complete) the tests are scored (some sent out to other agencies and some the psychiatrist scores) after a few weeks you or your treatment providers will receive a report outlining what your problems are , what your mental disorders are, recommended treatment plans and much more. |
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Apr 09, 2016, 06:53 PM
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(((hugs)))
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Apr 09, 2016, 09:35 PM
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BPD symptoms lessen over time, so to clearly be BPD at age 52 is unlikely.
To have depression for 30 years is possible. There's also such thing as double depression where your baseline mood is depressed. And as far as I know, personality disorders still aren't covered by insurances.
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Apr 09, 2016, 10:40 PM
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 I know how you feel. I have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety but after 7 years (probably more but I didn't have a diagnoses then) I am beginning to suspect BPD. I asked my T about it last session and she wouldn't tell me if I have it not. Obviously I don't want BPD but if I have it I would like to know. Mainly because I want to know what sort of expectations I should have of myself in terms of recovery. Also, I have had very little luck with antidepressants so far and I'm currently tapering off my current medication as it was not doing anything for me other than making me sweat excessively. I would like to know exactly what I have as that will help me make a better informed decision about wether I should try another antidepressant and what type would be most helpful for me.I am just so tired of this whole thing really. I have spent so much time and money over the years trying to "fix" myself and I've had enough. Sending hugs to you :sadhus:. |
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Apr 10, 2016, 03:09 AM
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I felt the same as you and my T dissauded me from getting hooked up.on labelling my thoughts and feelings. At the time I was left frustrated, but a couple of years on I get why for me, a label wouldn't have been ultimately helpful. I am sure it is not unusual to have borderline traits, low times, more excitable times, all part of the human experience. And I think for me, if I'd had a label, I may not have been able to move forward to where I am now, I think for me it may have been a hindrance, that I may have thought I had no power or control over it. I learned to acknowledge my difficulties and work with them. I'm now not sure if I ever "had" something and if I did it was my experience of "it" and reaction to "it" that needed the work.
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Apr 10, 2016, 09:06 AM
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Do you do any reading? You can google a lot of your symptoms or actions and find stuff to read about them that would give your healing a direction. Thats what i did.
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