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Old May 27, 2016, 06:46 PM
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Pre - sounds to me like you are developing your narrative. It will take a while to come together.
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Old May 27, 2016, 06:48 PM
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I think there is a difference between what a client may need to say and what the therapist needs to know about detail. The detail, I think for those guys, is not the necessary part even where saying it may be useful for the client.
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Old May 27, 2016, 06:51 PM
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:16 PM
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The us is full of lunatics who cry child abuse and neglect at every turn and want to regulate every substance that might be pleasurable. It does not make sense. Remember we were responsible for Carry Nation and the idiocy of prohibition. It comes out now in our draconian drug law and the constant barrage of laws continually trying to control women and their bodies. And at the same time, people here drink Bud light - an abomination whose purpose serves only to get people without taste buds drunk.
Carry Nation had an axe years before Lizzy Borden.
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:20 PM
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Older than 40 is what I was saying.
Over forty?! I might as well be dead!
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:22 PM
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I can't really get the logic that you can legally get married and start a family before you can have a glass of wine in a restaurant in the US. One is a far more serious responsibility than the other!
To be honest, I had to Google "Carry Nation". At first I assumed it was the radical wing of the gun lobby.
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:24 PM
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Pre - I remember things not as a coherent narrative. It's all sort of there, I just can't put it all together at once - my mind shies away from it. Ergo, cannot tell anyone the "whole story."

I would also rather someone understand the feelings and emotions I have (because I sure don't) than understand in the sense of having the knowledge of what exactly happened when. The first seems more valuable - more accepting, like you didn't have to "prove" them into understanding. But that is probably just me.
I am like you, @@. I feel my mind doesn't want to contain it all.
Sometimes when I am talking about it with T, I dissociate. My mind did not want to remember that bit.

I'm glad she says she understands the feelings, emotions and horribleness. But why don't I believe her?
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:26 PM
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What do you guys think about this:
T says she doesn't need to know the chronological detail of what happened to me to "understand that you are so hurt by the horrible things that happened to you."

Yes, she does! I am remembering things in pieces. I have a flashback...and I tell her about it. Later, I remember more about what happened...added details that make the event more horrible...but she doesn't want me to "obsess" about getting the details in order....

But, in that case, she won't truly know what happened to me the way I experienced it....She is not *seeing* or *hearing* ME, and I'm freakin' frustrated!
It's never good for a T to say she "doesn't need to know". It's her job to listen to whatever you want to tell her.
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:36 PM
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Yes! Thanks. Exactly!

It's like when something upsets you but you can't put it in words yet...
Not just that, for me. I automatically accepted other's views of events and of me. Those views were skewed to say the least. I spent a lot of time in t these past few years in wonderment that my parents would treat me x way, for example. Like my dad bought me a broken typewriter for a graduation present. When I tried to take it back to the shop, the salesman told me, final sale - that's what your dad thinks of you. Fifty years later I'm still trying to grasp the message. Like seriously, me?? Wtf?
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:40 PM
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It's never good for a T to say she "doesn't need to know". It's her job to listen to whatever you want to tell her.
Yes!!! This^
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Old May 27, 2016, 07:42 PM
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Just got home from the airport dropping off my mother and sis in law. Interesting note, y'know my little kitten? She stayed hidden the entire time my mother was here. She refused to come out. In fact, by last night, I was almost convinced she had escaped the house and run away because I could NOT find her. But when we got home, there she was in the middle of the living room. Apparently she is smarter than I even knew...
this made my day! When my mother used to come into the beauty shop I worked at while I was living with her, if mum was mad at me, the shop owner's Pekingese would bark at her.
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Old May 27, 2016, 08:55 PM
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Over forty?! I might as well be dead!


I'll join you. Although I feel mentally like a wayward teen, this decrepit shell tells the true tale.
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Old May 27, 2016, 09:39 PM
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Well I like corduroy so the couch lol but I know some don't like it so just the pillows lol
The problem with corduroy is that cat and dog hair stick to it. So maybe sticking with pillows is a good idea
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:11 PM
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I have been shaking my computer mouse and wondering why my ipad won't turn on. Anyone else want to join me in the twilight zone?
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:13 PM
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I've been a total b**ch to my H all day, and I'm not sure why. He was working from home, plus a guy was here to clean out our air ducts, so that was kind of annoying. I work from home, so it was like constant distractions, and I have lots of trouble focusing as it is...I said that I felt like I was being irritating, and he said, "Because you are being irritating." Which, gee, thanks. I said I figured he'd want to hang out after DD went to bed, but wasn't feeling that social, and he said he wouldn't really want to hang out with me the way I am right now anyway... I mean, I have a cold and am not feeling well, but that's no excuse. PMS was last week. Maybe it's just stress?

Or maybe it's about some test results I got a few days ago that included something that's a marker for chronic Lyme disease (won't get to talk to doc about it till next week), and when I mentioned that to him, he said that it wasn't a real illness. I said that our friend had it, and he was like, "She had something, but it wasn't chronic Lyme." Thankfully, I saw my T the next day, and she says it is a legitimate illness and that she has a couple clients who have it. Granted, I'm not positive that's what's going on, but it would explain quite a few of my symptoms, including my total lack of energy and constant fatigue, plus some of the mental health stuff (well, some of that has been there since I was a kid, but more the severity of it now). But if he doesn't think it's something real...then, yeah, I don't know... (For the record, it's low levels of CD57/NK1 cells, which from what I've read online, is pretty distinctly a Lyme marker, though H said it could be mold, too, though I haven't found much online about that connection).

Anyway, thinking my crankiness toward him could be related to that maybe...hoping we can talk about it some in marriage counseling Tuesday...
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:16 PM
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I do like my freckles, they just make color matching a little challenging. The right shade makes me a little paler than I am because of balancing the skin tone difference between my freckles and the rest of me. Store assistants don't seem to be trained when it comes to matching freckles and they always seem to want to give me something that turns me yellow. I do better slopping stuff on the back of my hand on the sly... But drugstore makeup does not feel as nice as the good stuff and I can't get away with that in Sephora, and the lighting is wrong too... First world problems I need to bring Ellahmae makeup shopping with me
I'd love to go! You don't want to match your freckles Let them show through. Foundation is to even out skin tone, especially if you like your freckles. There is a way to hide them if you would like. I love matching foundation and usually all of my friends kidnap me to go match them because the people in Sephora can never get it right.

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innnntteeresting! i put my eyeliner on the water line i guess...i don't see how it could go any lower without looking weird?
Just on the outside edge right on the top of the bottom lashes.

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The waterline is the edge rim of your eyelids. It ends in your tearducts at the inside corner. You really should not put any type of pencil liner on it, you'll give yourself cooties. Sorry to be a spoilsport! Line navy blue as close to your lashes as possible instead.
If you don't share there aren't cooties, and don't use an unsharpened pencil because if you're being quick the wood will scratch your eye and trust me that hurts! Only from the outside edge in no more than 2/3 of the way. Stay out of the tear duct area and you're good.

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I'm all for the makeovers!! I don't wear makeup hardly ever, but that's mostly due to the fact that when I do put on anything beyond a little mineral powder, I look like a little girl who just played in her mommy's makeup. or a clown. not sure which....
Seriously, couch get together slumber party? I'm in.

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is that the one with the big blue butterfly in the middle? and the sparkly eye shadows? so pretty!!
Yes! It's gorgeous! In fact I've played with it all night and have done so many fun bright looks. I just had to give my eyelids a break lol and have washed my face and brushes for the night.

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Over forty?! I might as well be dead!
Nothing wrong with being over 40! I'll be there soon
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:18 PM
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LT - I am really curious as to how a disease that can kill, even if it does so rarely, and is treated with antibiotics, is not "a real illness."
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:28 PM
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LT - I am really curious as to how a disease that can kill, even if it does so rarely, and is treated with antibiotics, is not "a real illness."
He believes, I guess, acute Lyme disease is real, like you get bit by a tick, have the rash, then immediately have symptoms. But I don't think he believes in the chronic form, where maybe it's been in my body for 10 years or more, causing symptoms, and showing up as negative on the standard blood test (Western blot maybe?) because Lyme bacteria are really good at hiding. The chronic form might need months or more of antibiotics to treat it (that's what our friend went through, and she's finally doing better...except for the part with her husband leaving her...).

It was an integrative physician who ordered the test--she's an MD, but also has training in more holistic/alternative methods. I initially took our daughter there a few months ago to seek help with both chronic constipation and her being on the autism spectrum (she just got food intolerance results back, and they came up really high on eggs and dairy). And when I showed him the website, he was saying he hoped they didn't tell me to "use crystals" and stuff like that. So I get the sense he doesn't buy into holistic/alternative medicine as much... (note: no crystals were mentioned!)
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:29 PM
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I would love to wear makeup, apparently i am very attractive with it, but it results in great shame. Even foundation with a little blush makes me feel the same way.
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:31 PM
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:34 PM
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Or maybe it's about some test results I got a few days ago that included something that's a marker for chronic Lyme disease (won't get to talk to doc about it till next week), and when I mentioned that to him, he said that it wasn't a real illness. I said that our friend had it, and he was like, "She had something, but it wasn't chronic Lyme." Thankfully, I saw my T the next day, and she says it is a legitimate illness and that she has a couple clients who have it. Granted, I'm not positive that's what's going on, but it would explain quite a few of my symptoms, including my total lack of energy and constant fatigue, plus some of the mental health stuff (well, some of that has been there since I was a kid, but more the severity of it now). But if he doesn't think it's something real...then, yeah, I don't know... (For the record, it's low levels of CD57/NK1 cells, which from what I've read online, is pretty distinctly a Lyme marker, though H said it could be mold, too, though I haven't found much online about that connection).
Maybe he'd like to come to the doctor with you and argue it out with him?
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:41 PM
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Maybe he'd like to come to the doctor with you and argue it out with him?
Yeah, maybe we should do that (though it's a her--the doctor, that is!) Actually, I'd kinda like to see him argue it out with my T--she'd put him in his place.
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:53 PM
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Could i grab a few pocket riders for my session on monday? I stuffed up the texting thing by being excessive and i know it sounds like an excuse but i couldn't stop myself from doing it.
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Could i grab a few pocket riders for my session on monday? I stuffed up the texting thing by being excessive and i know it sounds like an excuse but i couldn't stop myself from doing it.
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Old May 27, 2016, 10:59 PM
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Could i grab a few pocket riders for my session on monday? I stuffed up the texting thing by being excessive and i know it sounds like an excuse but i couldn't stop myself from doing it.
I'll come along.
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