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View Poll Results: Have you hugged your t?
Yes, and it was during termination 2 2.20%
Yes, and it was during termination
2 2.20%
Yes, and they are the same sex 21 23.08%
Yes, and they are the same sex
21 23.08%
Yes, and they are the opposite sex 18 19.78%
Yes, and they are the opposite sex
18 19.78%
No, and I dont want to 33 36.26%
No, and I dont want to
33 36.26%
No, but I want to 17 18.68%
No, but I want to
17 18.68%
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 06:54 PM
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There is a same sex reality and possibly several same sex realities. But first I have never had a therapy session center on a hug or hugs. I understand hugs to indicate "warm fuzzies." Same sex warm fuzziness consciously screams self love and love of self whispers of narcissism or possibly homosexual tendencies. The love of self is proper and homosexuality is a valid and recognized sexual orientation.
Narcissism can be complicated but it is treatable. So Freud wasn't always right and everything is not sexual. However, one must eat to survive and one must survive to have sex and one must have sex to sustain and propagate the human population. Everything else is extrapyramidial. All of this in a same sex hug. As a child man's first love was a woman, as a child woman's first love was a woman. Woman, the first harbor of life and first server of nutrition.
Lol, you lost me as soon as you insinuated that I'm a narcissist for desiring to be hugged by my T.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 06:58 PM
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So we need to love our surgeons, our butchers, our bakers, and other providers of goods and services? We certainly need or prefer at least a small degree of intimacy with each of these? Do we hug the butcher who provides us with exceptional cuts of meat? And what of the grocer? Do we love him as well?
No, I don't think I desire intimacy with any of the people you mentioned. Your argument is fallacious in the extreme.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 06:58 PM
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Lol, you lost me as soon as you insinuated that I'm a narcissist for desiring to be hugged by my T.
No insinuation intended. Same sex hugs are mirror like images of self and taken to the extreme end of the same continuum there's narcissism. :-)
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 07:01 PM
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No insinuation intended. Same sex hugs are mirror like images of self and taken to the extreme end of the same continuum there's narcissism. :-)
Well, I still disagree. I have a lot of self-hate, to be perfectly honest, so I'm not really sure how that fits with what you're saying.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 07:09 PM
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So we need to love our surgeons, our butchers, our bakers, and other providers of goods and services? We certainly need or prefer at least a small degree of intimacy with each of these? Do we hug the butcher who provides us with exceptional cuts of meat? And what of the grocer? Do we love him as well?
I am in no way close to any of these people. I wouldn't touch anyone I do not feel a close connection to. I am from a culture where people are more distanced in general. If I bond with people, physical closeness cones with it. And there are only a handful of people im close to. If im not close to a T, theres no point in therapy since I wouldnt just spill my guts to anyone out there. So, why would you assume every person is the same? Dont we have different relationships with different people? All thise people you mwntioned. I don't even knoq or wanna know. If your relationship to your T is like the one to your butcher.., well, thats odd and not just because im a vegan.
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Old Dec 15, 2017, 11:16 PM
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With some yes with some no. Always it was men.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 03:37 PM
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Same sex warm fuzziness consciously screams self love and love of self whispers of narcissism or possibly homosexual tendencies. The love of self is proper and homosexuality is a valid and recognized sexual orientation.
ahahahahahahaha ...whispers of possible homosexual tendencies? Hilarious. And yeah. No.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 03:41 PM
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To answer the poll: no, I have not.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 03:47 PM
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ahahahahahahaha ...whispers of possible homosexual tendencies? Hilarious. And yeah. No.
I dunno -- the whispers particularly make me feel rather dangerous and mysterious......
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 03:51 PM
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I haven’t no but my gp rings frequently when I am not well and always sends hugs.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 05:44 PM
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ahahahahahahaha ...whispers of possible homosexual tendencies? Hilarious. And yeah. No.
I seem to be a poor poet if a poet at all.
I feel hurt by this reply and quote. I'm anxious to be better received. If I was callus enough to cause anyone pain here, then my plea is for forgiveness. I only intended to participate in the present topic. I realize that new topics are generated regularly and those topics need participants too. I'm eager to participate in those discussions as soon as I become aware of any that touch upon my life experience or academic prowess however little there may be.
A therapeutic counselor listening to me complain about my losses in a bitter if not hostile divorce replied with these instructions:
"Keep in touch with your feelings.
If you feel angry, you're in a power struggle.
If you feel hurt, [the party] wants revenge.
If you feel hopeless, [the party] wants you to feel inadequate.
If you feel annoyed, [the party] wants your attention.

I don't know that anyone deliberately set out to cause the hurt I felt. I am aware of the pain. I might have misinterpreted some of this incoming stimuli. Constructs meant to annoy might have hurt. I'm not perfect.

There was no open proclamation of homosexuality, no mentioned diagnosis of blatant narcissism so I thought it safest to tread lightly introducing those terms into the dialogue.
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Old Dec 16, 2017, 10:33 PM
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I have had therapists on and off for 25 years. I have never hugged one or had one that attempted to hug me.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 05:24 PM
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Nine days after I voted 'No, and I would not want to'

R offered a hug into the New Year, and I accepted. It was warm, and wonderful. Necessary in that moment, considering the depth we had gone to in the final session of the year.
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Old Jan 05, 2018, 05:27 PM
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We hugged every session for months, it meant the world to me, but now I wish we never did, because he made me feel like the most disgusting person alive.
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Old Jan 06, 2018, 02:37 AM
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Both my previous and current therapists are huggers and so was my psychodrama therapist.
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