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Old Jan 13, 2018, 08:19 AM
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I am seriously done with this process. I just don't believe in psychotherapy any longer. I believe it is all a hoax. This process is not a healthy one. I am better off sorting through the things of my life on my own. I am far healthier and more intellectual than the three therapists I have seen in my life. This mode of treatment does me more harm than good.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 09:04 AM
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I am in that place with you right now, struggling to come up with an answer . It is just hard to have a personal relationship that is a business fifty minutes for one person and the other person's whole life at stake. I am hurting over therapy a whole lot this week, and cant resolve the issue very well.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 09:29 AM
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 09:35 AM
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I'm glad you have figured out what is best for you. It's fine that it's not therapy; it isn't right for everyone.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 09:37 AM
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I kinda feel like you have a point but I'm stuck in a deep attachment, quitting would make me way worse than I already am

Sorry it did not work for you, good luck with whatever you do in the future, I hope you find a way to heal
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 09:43 AM
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One thing I've learned on this road of life I'm on... everyone has to find their own path. Life paths are certainly not one-size-fits-all!

I've felt more than once in the past 6+ years with current t that I wanted to throw my process out the window, y'know the whole throw the baby out with the bathwater thing. Right now I'm on an indefinite break from therapy basically because I'm ready to end it but t won't give me the ending I want, she just keeps calling it a "break". And I'm beginning to see that well, maybe that has more to do with her own path than mine and I need to find the closure I seek inside myself and continue doing my work in other ways. When I told her that she didn't understand it, the doing my work in other ways. But well, that's her path, she still talks to her own t, doesn't mean it has to be mine.

And isn't that part of what this whole process is about, anyway? Finding our Self, our own path through life?

Not everyone is going to be successful with every t. And I don't think everyone necessarily needs therapy, either.

Well I'm certainly wordy this morning..... anyway I wish you all the best! I think you should do what's best for you. And you are the one that would know that better than anyone.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 10:15 AM
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What do you think about support groups and maybe finding some others to help sort through stuff, too? I've been trying them for 15 years. Haven't found "the answer" there either but there are a couple of other isolated souls that I haven't totally alienated yet. Nor have they alienated me. Makes things a little easier. PsychCentral helps with that, too. Good luck!!
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 01:27 PM
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Nothing wrong in deciding therapy isn't useful for you. Therapy has been helpful to me but I'm not sure more than mindfulness, mindfulness-based movement like Tai Chi, building a stronger support system, a health diet and lifestyle, taking time to rest and do the things I enjoy, self care like massage and a light box, learning new skills and reading about things I don't know anything about, writing, and saying no to people and things I don't want.

Therapy is one tool that can lead to personal growth and greater fulfillment in life, but there are dozens and dozens of tools that you can engage. I hope you find what will work for you, although in my experience it is sometimes helpful just to know what you don't want.

Many years ago, I was part of a survivor's self help group-- totally free and not therapist-led. Great experience.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 02:01 PM
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I’m in the same spot. I realized even more once I reached out to my T and she seemed not interested at all after seeing her for years. I’m notbsure how Ts can live with themselves acting in such a way.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 02:46 PM
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I am in that place with you right now, struggling to come up with an answer . It is just hard to have a personal relationship that is a business fifty minutes for one person and the other person's whole life at stake. I am hurting over therapy a whole lot this week, and cant resolve the issue very well.
I think even to the client its not a personal relationship... its an illusion.

if the client dies on the metaphorical surgery table... will the surgeon be devastated or back to work monday cutting open his next patient?

Therapists care but only up to a point.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 03:03 PM
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I think even to the client its not a personal relationship... its an illusion.
This is well put.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 03:14 PM
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I wonder if this concept might be helpful in looking at therapy "relationships"

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...g-relationship
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 03:35 PM
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I wonder if this concept might be helpful in looking at therapy "relationships"

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...g-relationship
That article makes perfect sense.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 03:46 PM
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I think even to the client its not a personal relationship... its an illusion.

if the client dies on the metaphorical surgery table... will the surgeon be devastated or back to work monday cutting open his next patient?

Therapists care but only up to a point.
So true- therapist back to work Monday , surgical patient dead lol. The stakes are much higher for one in terms of skin in the game
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 03:52 PM
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kind of.

Therapy can be just as fatal if its not managed well and the patient is suicidal
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 07:27 PM
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kind of.

Therapy can be just as fatal if its not managed well and the patient is suicidal
So true. I don’t think they are of aware of the impact they make on a client. Some of them have been clients. I wonder if sometimes they forget it was like to be a client.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 04:02 PM
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So true. I don’t think they are of aware of the impact they make on a client. Some of them have been clients. I wonder if sometimes they forget it was like to be a client.
Even if they have had therapy, some will not go through the intense attachment so still wont understand.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 05:12 PM
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I never figured out what those people meant by using the word process. I doubt I ever believed in it and nothing that went on lead me to change my mind
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 05:33 PM
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 09:16 PM
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I also found that it was a large hoax. There were all these lofty ideas and fancy jargon and concepts, and the therapists made a big show of everything. But more I looked at it, the less there was to see, mostly a lot of empty and dysfunctional role playing.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 09:25 PM
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I also found that it was a large hoax. There were all these lofty ideas and fancy jargon and concepts, and the therapists made a big show of everything. But more I looked at it, the less there was to see, mostly a lot of empty and dysfunctional role playing.
do you have a link to a thread saying what you went through? I would be Interested to read it
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 04:32 AM
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I reached the same conclusion about therapy. My blog below has narratives from consumers and links to resources. See also the Therapy Exploitation Link Line, the Therapy Consumer Guide and the blog Try Therapy Free.
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 08:30 AM
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After him not calling to tell me the center was closing early for the day knowing I live an hour and 15 minutes away, and then not calling the following Monday to apologize or reschedule, I caved and called for another appointment. When I was done with that appointment he told me that he couldn't see me this week because it was a short week. So basically I have seen him once in the past five weeks because I was away for two weeks at Christmas. It is hard to develop a trusting relationship when I don't know from one week to the next if I will have an appointment. I just feel like he wants to be done with me and is hoping if he keeps doing this kind of stuff that I'll end treatment. If he doesn't like working with me or that he can help me then he should refer me to someone else and not treat me like I am less than human. My last therapist fell asleep on the very day that I had found the courage to talk about my son's shooting and assault. The one before that fell in love with me and it got very complicated so I left abruptly. I feel healthier and stronger when I am not in therapy and when I am going it alone. I don't know why I went back this third time, perhaps to validate my overall feeling that modern day psychotherapy is a complete and utter hoax.

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Old Jan 15, 2018, 09:36 AM
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. . . It is hard to develop a trusting relationship when I don't know from one week to the next if I will have an appointment. I just feel like he wants to be done with me and is hoping if he keeps doing this kind of stuff that I'll end treatment. If he doesn't like working with me or that he can help me then he should refer me to someone else and not treat me like I am less than human. My last therapist fell asleep on the very day that I had found the courage to talk about my son's shooting and assault. The one before that fell in love with me and it got very complicated so I left abruptly. I feel healthier and stronger when I am not in therapy and when I am going it alone. . .
Hi JacksonLiam,

It sounds as if you have been having a hard time and would like some help. But therapy has not done that for you. Do you have some other sources of support? Support groups, for instance, have been helpful to me. Also you might try posting in some of the other forums about what is concerning you and see if you find some of what you are looking for just from other PC members.

I eventually gave up on therapy, after many years of it. So I'm familiar with some of the concepts and find some things of value in them, even though there are lots of problems and, overall, from my experience therapy can do more harm than good sometimes. Perhaps lots, I don't know.

That said, then, I am concerned that you sound so alone. That doesn't seem like such a good thing, especially when you are going through a hard time. I sure don't have an answer for that, though.
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Old Jan 15, 2018, 06:34 PM
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do you have a link to a thread saying what you went through? I would be Interested to read it
https://forums.psychcentral.com/psyc...nt-issues.html

It's actually not very interesting. Kind of sickening.
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