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Old May 23, 2018, 08:43 PM
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I’ve been through a traumatic event which I get no help for - no parents, no friends, nobody
I talk to a therapist and they don’t help me out despite putting precious resources into it
I am becoming hopeless, more stressed and through with it

I just wanted to succeed in my own way, to battle all the odds. But instead, I am buttered up instead of bucked up, and I won’t be able to fight the odds that way

I have been through harsh events which I require great strength in order to fight, and I have not found anyone to help me well against those events which have happened against ME

What will I ever do?
Every treatment is stepping on burning charcoals, instead of helping me take immediate action towards my aim

One of the things I hate about therapy (and let’s not talk about psychiatric treatments), is the in-action reflection that you are weak and the reinforcement of that view - ALWAYS finding weaknesses, and I am THROUGH with it!
Always unlistening, and I am done with it!
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Old May 24, 2018, 12:17 AM
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I have been through harsh events which I require great strength in order to fight, and I have not found anyone to help me well against those events which have happened against ME

What will I ever do?
Every treatment is stepping on burning charcoals, instead of helping me take immediate action towards my aim
What kind of help do you expect from a therapist (and what do they offer instead)? How do you want them to help you take immediate actions towards your aim? What stops you from taking steps towards that aim now?
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Old May 24, 2018, 08:41 AM
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I’ve been through a traumatic event which I get no help for - no parents, no friends, nobody
I talk to a therapist and they don’t help me out despite putting precious resources into it
I am becoming hopeless, more stressed and through with it

I just wanted to succeed in my own way, to battle all the odds. But instead, I am buttered up instead of bucked up, and I won’t be able to fight the odds that way

I have been through harsh events which I require great strength in order to fight, and I have not found anyone to help me well against those events which have happened against ME

What will I ever do?
Every treatment is stepping on burning charcoals, instead of helping me take immediate action towards my aim

One of the things I hate about therapy (and let’s not talk about psychiatric treatments), is the in-action reflection that you are weak and the reinforcement of that view - ALWAYS finding weaknesses, and I am THROUGH with it!
Always unlistening, and I am done with it!
I could certainly be wrong, but I bolded some of your statements which seem to be in direct contradiction, and therefore impossible!!

Can you change your expectations of therapy, maybe? It sounds like you're feeling pretty desperate? I definitely know that feeling, been going with it one moment at a time for quite a while.

There are probably lots of ways that people try to deal with feelings of desperation. And if you didn't have support for yourself growing up, which it has sounded like you didn't, then the "normal" tendency to reach out for help and contact with other humans can be kind of. . .messed up? I know mine has been, but therapy to un-mess it? Lots of problems with the current state of the profession from what I've been through. Just the way it is.

I understand, too, the desire to "go it alone", since other people are so unreliable -- starting with family members, of course. That sucks, too, but just the way it is. And terribly lonely if one can't find a way out of that!

Given that, I'll ask again -- what, if anything, do you think this current therapist has to offer you? What did you think they had to offer when you hired him/her? If they do not have what you thought they would, can you find anything of value which they have had for you? Sometimes something is better than nothing, sometimes of course not!!
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Old May 24, 2018, 08:51 AM
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I wonder if this feeling of suffering and kind of desperation is leading you to hope for a 'cure' from therapy which sadly might not exist in reality?

I mean, there are all kinds of things in my life which are very painful and whichever I'm sure my T would solve for me if he could, but the reality is that they are not really in his remit and also he's only a human being and he can't solve everything that happens or has happened or will happen in my life.

Perhaps it would help to write down some notes and then have a conversation with your T about exactly what you are hoping for as an outcome of therapy, and ask T to explain in a concrete way whether or not they think they can help you to achieve that outcome, which therapeutic approach they think will help, and what the steps will be? I find it good generally to have this kind of conversation and it help some one to know that something useful is happening and that progress is happening overall, even though it doesn't always feel like that each and every session.
Thanks for this!
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Old May 24, 2018, 09:49 AM
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I’ve been through a traumatic event which I get no help for - no parents, no friends, nobody
I talk to a therapist and they don’t help me out despite putting precious resources into it
I am becoming hopeless, more stressed and through with it

I just wanted to succeed in my own way, to battle all the odds. But instead, I am buttered up instead of bucked up, and I won’t be able to fight the odds that way

I have been through harsh events which I require great strength in order to fight, and I have not found anyone to help me well against those events which have happened against ME

What will I ever do?
Every treatment is stepping on burning charcoals, instead of helping me take immediate action towards my aim

One of the things I hate about therapy (and let’s not talk about psychiatric treatments), is the in-action reflection that you are weak and the reinforcement of that view - ALWAYS finding weaknesses, and I am THROUGH with it!
Always unlistening, and I am done with it!
I can certainly understand feelings of occasional hopelessness. But the black and white nature of this message..ALWAYS......BURNING ...HATE...ALWAYS...DONE...can be a problem in and of itself. Is there any grey area that you can find? Any progress at all? A small glimmer? Can you create any space within this black and white dynamic where you can rest and reassure yourself?
Thanks for this!
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Old May 24, 2018, 12:54 PM
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One therapist was lecturing a young teen girl during treatment
I started wondering, what if that girl would want to one day be successful? Being lectured by a therapist, how will it help?
The girl will want to grow and will have to deal with supervisors lecturing anyway, so lecture+lecture is no good self-esteem builder

See, we are very wise. We know therapy doesn’t work and will never work
Saying there is hope is like saying there is water in a desert - there is NONE
I met a new therapist who treats HF-ASD, and they showed contempt, so the relationship is doomed
You think there is hope? Come, lend me a hand, help me get what I want
But then you’ll call me selfish. Yes I am selfish, I have wills and desires of my own. One of them is to fight people who abuse power for self-gain and other-destruction

Being open-minded can be very destructive - it means going round and round to no end
Never be open-minded. Be determined to get what you want at no costs
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Old May 24, 2018, 01:07 PM
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I am a very elementary person - if there is shame in getting mental health treatment, then there has to be shame, and there is no logical reason to think otherwise
You never hear people say “mentally ill people are stronger than the rest”. Otherwise the entire world would be flipping
So yea, I am mentally weak, but it’s not my fault. I come to this world to expect to get what I want, and if I don’t get it then I see no point in living
I am mentally weak because it seems there is no reach to my goals, so I am exhausted
I’ve been through so many fights yet no one was there for me to protect me and help me execute justice
So no one really cares about me

This is where my Mental Health Police idea came in by the way - what’s the point of living a life of injustice and be given nothing but bandages and no refined sword to fight back?
Allot of people are stealing attention to themselves from others, become attention gluttons, like a bunch of primitive tribes, or like a bunch of pirates
This has to stop. And it will be stopped
I am through with the inequality across the globe, because see - inequality IS a problem, excpet for those who feel better than others of course
But don’t worry - it will become a problem
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Old May 24, 2018, 01:10 PM
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You can attack me, scold me, do whatever harm you wish to inflict
But you’ll only be proving my point right the more you do it, and with that, the point that people harm consciously
What kind of people would want to live in a world where people consciously choose to harm without anyone doing any justice against them?
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Old May 24, 2018, 01:21 PM
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Mental health treatment nowadays seems like telling an injured soldier they should’ve eaten an omelette with side-sliced cheese, along with doing some thrown exercises and throwing more procedures to be done, and the soldier clearly says their leg is stuck, yet the helper doesn’t bother finding a way to get their leg out and being with them a long time in order to find the problem, so the helper waves goodbye and goes on with their lives as if nothing happrned, thinking they have done their duty, while the soldier remains stuck and injured.
THAT - is mental health treatment
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Old May 25, 2018, 11:59 AM
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One of the things I hate about therapy (and let’s not talk about psychiatric treatments), is the in-action reflection that you are weak and the reinforcement of that view - ALWAYS finding weaknesses, and I am THROUGH with it!
Agree with this. I found that just being in therapy imposed feelings of pathology and weakness and inferiority. The client catalogues their faults and neuroses, and the therapist judges and analyzes, while concealing their own weakness, and thus a hierarchy is automatically established, and the therapist enjoys feeling superior. Therapy for the therapist.

Can you find a non-hierarchical support group in your area?
Thanks for this!
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Old May 25, 2018, 01:52 PM
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Agree with this. I found that just being in therapy imposed feelings of pathology and weakness and inferiority. The client catalogues their faults and neuroses, and the therapist judges and analyzes, while concealing their own weakness, and thus a hierarchy is automatically established, and the therapist enjoys feeling superior. Therapy for the therapist.

Can you find a non-hierarchical support group in your area?
How do I get started?
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Old May 25, 2018, 05:54 PM
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How do I get started?
Not sure. Was just a general thought. Google search I guess.
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Old May 25, 2018, 06:07 PM
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Not sure. Was just a general thought. Google search I guess.
Sorry, doesn't help. I seriously need the giving hand, rather than a distant thought
Thanks anyway, but it was not enough at all
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