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Old Aug 22, 2018, 03:42 PM
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I am getting slightly obsessed with eating fruit with salt -- melons with salt, fresh figs with salt.

Actually fresh figs any which way.

While also wondering as to how I've managed to walk the earth for so long without knowing the heaven that is a fresh fig. Sigh.
Fresh figs on a pizza with goat cheese and pancetta is amazing ❤️
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 03:47 PM
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Or just stuff them with goat cheese and wrap in prosciutto
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 03:57 PM
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I'm really struggling with processing my session today. It was really intense. In fact, T even once commented on the fact that he can "be pretty intense." In the past, he'd said "You affect me, LT." Today he went with, "I'm not immune to you, LT." As in, stuff I say has an impact on him. And he's trying to make me understand how people on the "outside" might react to me. But, as I said today, it's not like I'd tell my friend, "So I looked at a photo of you to feel more connected to you."

At the end, he asked if I thought I could "handle" him. Because he's so honest and gives so much feedback, but he said he's tried to adjust that for me, because I can react so strongly. I said I thought so, how I feel maybe it's more what I need right now, like if it brings out emotions like shame, that's stuff I need to explore. Like maybe it was too safe with ex-MC just accepting everything

It just felt so intense, more, I don't know, "real" than I'm used to having in therapy. Like in some ways, it felt like transference and countertransference flying around the room. But maybe I need more, uh, "real-ness" vs. ex-MC saying everything is OK (which, as T said today, isn't realistic).
This sounds incredibly difficult to balance.

I don’t know if this will help, but I used to want reassurance all the time, not from T since this was before I ever went to therapy, until one day it just clicked that I’m done needing it and would much prefer honesty. But to get there, I tried making a habit of asking myself first if I want reassurance or honesty before asking someone a question or invite someone to comment on something. If I was asking for reassurance, then I just didn’t ask at all. If I wanted honesty, then I asked because I was prepared for whatever answer the other person gave.

And I have been using it a lot I’m therapy. When I ask him something, I tell him if I am looking for a reassuring answer or an honest answer. He obliges. After a while, I would ask again and my need for honestly slowly outweighs my need for reassurance. My T is patient though and has learned that this is my process.

I don’t know if that makes any sense, but maybe preempting it like that will help, if he’s up to it?

In any case, I’m sorry. This must feel very daunting
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 03:58 PM
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Or just stuff them with goat cheese and wrap in prosciutto
Guess I know what I’m having for dinner tomorrow
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 04:04 PM
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This sounds incredibly difficult to balance.

I don’t know if this will help, but I used to want reassurance all the time, not from T since this was before I ever went to therapy, until one day it just clicked that I’m done needing it and would much prefer honesty. But to get there, I tried making a habit of asking myself first if I want reassurance or honesty before asking someone a question or invite someone to comment on something. If I was asking for reassurance, then I just didn’t ask at all. If I wanted honesty, then I asked because I was prepared for whatever answer the other person gave.

And I have been using it a lot I’m therapy. When I ask him something, I tell him if I am looking for a reassuring answer or an honest answer. He obliges. After a while, I would ask again and my need for honestly slowly outweighs my need for reassurance. My T is patient though and has learned that this is my process.

I don’t know if that makes any sense, but maybe preempting it like that will help, if he’s up to it?

In any case, I’m sorry. This must feel very daunting
I expect honesty from my T 100% of the time. She knows this. That's why when I asked her if she loves me, she said no. But she's not blunt. She explains things before stating the issue. And I ask for reassurance all the time from T, but again, I expect 100% honesty.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 04:08 PM
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Guess I know what I’m having for dinner tomorrow
Have you tried it with a little bit of honey as well? Delicious.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 05:41 PM
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I expect honesty from my T 100% of the time. She knows this. That's why when I asked her if she loves me, she said no. But she's not blunt. She explains things before stating the issue. And I ask for reassurance all the time from T, but again, I expect 100% honesty.

That seems like a good thing. With my T...he can be pretty blunt. He won't sugarcoat things. But I think...maybe sometimes the truth is what I need to hear? He does reassure me, though, in terms of he'd never just kick me out the door, so there's that.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 05:47 PM
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I am getting slightly obsessed with eating fruit with salt -- melons with salt, fresh figs with salt.

Actually fresh figs any which way.

While also wondering as to how I've managed to walk the earth for so long without knowing the heaven that is a fresh fig. Sigh.

Up your game: hibiscus salt. Or chocolate salt. You're welcome.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:00 PM
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Up your game: hibiscus salt. Or chocolate salt. You're welcome.

Thanks to FKM, I now eat coddled eggs for breakfast several times a week.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:11 PM
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It's always a better day that begins with a coddler.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:20 PM
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Guess I know what I’m having for dinner tomorrow
It does sound delicious, doesn't it?

I am going to go tell my fig trees to hurry up already!
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:20 PM
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How do coddled eggs compare to poached? They sound similar.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:30 PM
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How do coddled eggs compare to poached? They sound similar.
I think coddled go in a container and poached don’t?
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:34 PM
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I think that's pretty much it, except with coddled eggs you can add other ingredients to the coddler--like cheese, bits of cooked bacon/ham, jalapeno peppers.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:35 PM
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Figs are delicious. I grew up eating salt on apples, watermelon, grapefruit, etc. I did not realize not everyone did it.
I've never put salt on fruit, seems strange to me. Doing so is not very popular in my area. To each their own.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:36 PM
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I went for a long walk with the kids' dad yesterday, my preferred way to have conversations with him because I can keep moving. I just can't even process some of the things he said to me, including, "I miss the way things were before."

When he said that I had to stop walking for a minute because I couldn't breathe.
There's just such a disjoint there. What the hell? It's like he remembers a completely different marriage. Or doesn't remember. Does he really not understand what he's saying to me when he says that?
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:39 PM
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This sounds incredibly difficult to balance.

I don’t know if this will help, but I used to want reassurance all the time, not from T since this was before I ever went to therapy, until one day it just clicked that I’m done needing it and would much prefer honesty. But to get there, I tried making a habit of asking myself first if I want reassurance or honesty before asking someone a question or invite someone to comment on something. If I was asking for reassurance, then I just didn’t ask at all. If I wanted honesty, then I asked because I was prepared for whatever answer the other person gave.

And I have been using it a lot I’m therapy. When I ask him something, I tell him if I am looking for a reassuring answer or an honest answer. He obliges. After a while, I would ask again and my need for honestly slowly outweighs my need for reassurance. My T is patient though and has learned that this is my process.

I don’t know if that makes any sense, but maybe preempting it like that will help, if he’s up to it?

In any case, I’m sorry. This must feel very daunting

That does help. Ex-marriage counselor gave me lots of reassurance, but the problem was, it only lasted so long, so left me just wanting more reassurance. So a vicious cycle with no resolution. It's just hard having T be so honest with me because I'm not used to that with people. So it's scary, like "you're 5% bothered by what I did, now you're going to leave me," when T is like "it's 5%, that's nothing."

But that's a good idea to tell him what I'm looking for. There have been a couple times where, at start of session, I've said something like, "I'm struggling right now, I just need support, not feedback," and he's generally honored that. And he said today he tries to be more gentle to me at times when he feels I need that.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:47 PM
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I went for a long walk with the kids' dad yesterday, my preferred way to have conversations with him because I can keep moving. I just can't even process some of the things he said to me, including, "I miss the way things were before."

When he said that I had to stop walking for a minute because I couldn't breathe.
There's just such a disjoint there. What the hell? It's like he remembers a completely different marriage. Or doesn't remember. Does he really not understand what he's saying to me when he says that?
2ex often seemed not to remember the things he’d done and said.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:56 PM
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I'm really struggling with processing my session today. It was really intense. In fact, T even once commented on the fact that he can "be pretty intense." In the past, he'd said "You affect me, LT." Today he went with, "I'm not immune to you, LT." As in, stuff I say has an impact on him. And he's trying to make me understand how people on the "outside" might react to me. But, as I said today, it's not like I'd tell my friend, "So I looked at a photo of you to feel more connected to you."

At the end, he asked if I thought I could "handle" him. Because he's so honest and gives so much feedback, but he said he's tried to adjust that for me, because I can react so strongly. I said I thought so, how I feel maybe it's more what I need right now, like if it brings out emotions like shame, that's stuff I need to explore. Like maybe it was too safe with ex-MC just accepting everything

It just felt so intense, more, I don't know, "real" than I'm used to having in therapy. Like in some ways, it felt like transference and countertransference flying around the room. But maybe I need more, uh, "real-ness" vs. ex-MC saying everything is OK (which, as T said today, isn't realistic).

That does sound like a rather intense session. And what I bolded - I wonder if this has something to do with what L said last week - about how she gets pulled into my whatever it is and says things she wouldn't normally say and how we have to look at that or something. Hmm.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:57 PM
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I'm getting ready to head over to the college, it's the first night of current Psych class and I'm a little nervous about being in an actual classroom again...
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"The squeaky wheel gets the canola oil!"

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Old Aug 22, 2018, 06:59 PM
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I think coddled go in a container and poached don’t?
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I think that's pretty much it, except with coddled eggs you can add other ingredients to the coddler--like cheese, bits of cooked bacon/ham, jalapeno peppers.
Sorry, I meant like consistency/texture wise. I read you butter the inside of the coddler and add cream, so I think that would change the texture and flavor plus any other bits you throw in.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 07:04 PM
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Sorry, I meant like consistency/texture wise. I read you butter the inside of the coddler and add cream, so I think that would change the texture and flavor plus any other bits you throw in.
Yes, the coddled taste more fatty and rich. I think there’s more license with the coddled egg about how runny the yolk is.

I’ve only used cream with shirred eggs, which taste even fattier and richer.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 07:19 PM
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I always use cream--it's part of the decadence to me. But shirred eggs and coddled eggs to me are just a difference between using the oven and ramekins, or a saucepan and coddler. If I have a bunch of people over for brunch I'm more likely to make shirred eggs because it's easier (and even I don't own 6 coddlers!) I tend to avoid making poached eggs because I find the technique fussy and often end up with misshapen or broken eggs.
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Old Aug 22, 2018, 07:31 PM
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