Couch 199: The Unennennium Couch

Jul 02, 2019, 10:25 AM

Another nutter butter peanut butter cookie? How did that go?

Jul 02, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake

Nutty buttys are better that nitty buttys.

Dinner party at una's today at 6pm.

I'll bring the lentils

atisketatasket · Jul 02, 2019, 10:41 AM

I’m working on revising the next story I plan to send out. Grammar fiends of the Couch, a question: is had passive in English, even without “been”? One of my fellow work shoppers insists it is in his comments, but I just see it as pluperfect if it doesn’t have “been” with it.

“Had marched” is active, “had been marched” is passive to me. Have I spent too much time studying dead inflected languages?

Omers · Jul 02, 2019, 10:50 AM

I was told I would never make it life because my grasp of spelling and grammar was so bad... but I’m with you on how I would feel reading it in a publication as a normal person.

Jul 02, 2019, 11:16 AM

Just got back from a successful walk, managed to stay upright and not add to yesterday's booboos.

Jul 02, 2019, 11:17 AM

Still smh at L for that.

LonesomeTonight · Jul 02, 2019, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

I’m working on revising the next story I plan to send out. Grammar fiends of the Couch, a question: is had passive in English, even without “been”? One of my fellow work shoppers insists it is in his comments, but I just see it as pluperfect if it doesn’t have “been” with it.

“Had marched” is active, “had been marched” is passive to me. Have I spent too much time studying dead inflected languages?

I think "had marched" would still be passive. Are you not supposed to use passive voice?

LonesomeTonight · Jul 02, 2019, 11:23 AM

Seeing T's backup T (R) in about a half hour. I had a phone session with her back in February, but this will be the first time I'm meeting with her in person. Feeling nervous. And I think her office is next-door to T's, so that might trigger some sadness if his door is closed. Or even if it's open, and I can see in but know he's not there.

atisketatasket · Jul 02, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight

I think "had marched" would still be passive. Are you not supposed to use passive voice?

Passive voice is supposed to be bad writing, since passive verbs tend to be weak verbs.

See, if I say "the army had marched for seven days," the subject is doing the acting. If I say "the army had been marched for seven days by their general," the general is doing the action, so it's passive. But maybe I'm completely off and English has changed.

Omers · Jul 02, 2019, 11:33 AM

“Having marched for seven days” ? American English is such a mess!

atisketatasket · Jul 02, 2019, 11:57 AM

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“Having marched for seven days” ? American English is such a mess!

"Having" would be past or perfect tense and its equivalent would be "has marched" (definitely active). The "had" makes it pluperfect and takes it one step further into the past. English teachers might call it the past perfect, idk.

Lemoncake · Jul 02, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

Nutty buttys aside, do you like nutter butters?

What are they? Kinda like Reese's butter cups?

LonesomeTonight · Jul 02, 2019, 12:02 PM

Oh despite being an editor I’m not an expert!

Lemoncake · Jul 02, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

"Having" would be past or perfect tense and its equivalent would be "has marched" (definitely active). The "had" makes it pluperfect and takes it one step further into the past. English teachers might call it the past perfect, idk.

Go with your version.

LonesomeTonight · Jul 02, 2019, 12:02 PM

And research articles often involve passive voice so I’m used to it.

Lemoncake · Jul 02, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Oh despite being an editor I’m not an expert!

I hope your session goes well.

Welcome to the R club!

atisketatasket · Jul 02, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemoncake

What are they? Kinda like Reese's butter cups?

They're peanut butter sandwich cookies shaped like peanuts with peanut butter crème. No chocolate unless you get the fudge-dipped ones.

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And research articles often involve passive voice so I’m used to it.

Yeah, academic writing is a whole different ball game. I've had to train myself out of research writing habits (semicolons, stuff like that).

NP_Complete · Jul 02, 2019, 12:11 PM

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What are they? Kinda like Reese's butter cups?

They're a sandwich cookie with a peanut butter filling. They're shaped like a peanut shell.

NP_Complete · Jul 02, 2019, 12:17 PM

My therapist is taking a 5-day weekend this week, will be in the wilderness so no contact, and I'm feeling a bit sad about it. Then he's back for a week and a half and will take another 11-day vacation which coincides with my trauma anniversary. Not feeling good about this at all. At least he will be in civilization for that one and has said he wants to set up some contact. I'm feeling really fragile right now because of trauma stuff and my body going haywire.

NP_Complete · Jul 02, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by atisketatasket

They're peanut butter sandwich cookies shaped like peanuts with peanut butter crème. No chocolate unless you get the fudge-dipped ones.

They make fudge-dipped ones? How have I missed these?

Jul 02, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NP_Complete

They make fudge-dipped ones? How have I missed these?

I was just about to say the same thing!

now I want some

NP_Complete · Jul 02, 2019, 12:28 PM

I love peanut butter. They used to make these candy bars called PB Max. Those things were so addictive. I'm not sure why they quit making them.

atisketatasket · Jul 02, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NP_Complete

They make fudge-dipped ones? How have I missed these?

Eat a box for me if you get them.

I don't remember PB Max, but Wikipedia says the Mars family personally didn't like peanut butter, so they discontinued them. Not a rational economic reason!

And which makes me worry about the future of peanut butter M&M's.

Jul 02, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NP_Complete

I love peanut butter. They used to make these candy bars called PB Max. Those things were so addictive. I'm not sure why they quit making them.

I remember those mmm. I love peanut butter too. I don't even buy it because I can't control myself when there's a jar in the house!

NP_Complete · Jul 02, 2019, 12:57 PM

Putting this behind a trigger warning for an intersection between female body issues and abuse issues.

Possible trigger:

I think I'm feeling particularly fragile around this crazy period I'm having. It kind of forces me to pay a lot of attention to a part of my body that I would like to pretend doesn't exist any more. My husband, towards the end, decided to start telling me how large that part of my body was, once comparing it to a gallon-sized jar of pickles. These things really hurt. A lot actually. My therapist knows he said these things because I would throw them in when I would tell him what he was saying to me, and I think he understands that they felt incredibly hurtful, but we have never discussed the topic directly. Because how the hell do you talk about that? We've been discussing the period issues I'm having lately. I wonder if I should try to broach the topic around how triggering I find my period and why. This feels so intensely shameful to me.

If I should delete this, just send me a PM and I will.

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