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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:06 PM
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LT, I wish I could say something helpful, but I'm not sure what that would be. Emotional stuff isn't my best forte. So I'm sending you some hugs.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:11 PM
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I have an appointment next week with New T, Dr. K. I'm starting to get nervous. Like what if he thinks I'm just a waste of time?
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:18 PM
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I really didn't feel like adulting today. I was laying in the lazyboy before work literally telling myself affirmations to get my butt up and go to work. It worked because I did in fact come to work and I have been working and doing things at my job. But I really wanted to stay home, and take a nap and make some Dabo bread and watch TV. I still want to be doing those things. It is hard to force myself to adult today.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:21 PM
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I have an appointment next week with New T, Dr. K. I'm starting to get nervous. Like what if he thinks I'm just a waste of time?

Hugs, Kit. I'm sure he won't think you're a waste of time. I hope he'll be helpful.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:26 PM
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LT, you initiated the apology for your own reasons. He didn’t ask for it and for all you know didn’t expect it. You don’t control what he does with the apology, whether he accepts it or not or says it’s unnecessary. Maybe he feels that he should honor your email and the self-awareness you showed in it by accepting the apology. Why not just accept it’s done and move on? Adult relationship, remember?

True. I think I felt guilty and worried he was angry at me--the reasons behind initiating it. It felt like it would be better received as an apology vs. just saying "I hope you're not mad" or "are you upset with me for asking about this?" And that's a good point that he may have felt he should honor it in the spirit that it was sent.


Will do my best to move on from it. Sometimes discussing things here can help me to do that in the sense of not then bringing them up in my therapy more. Or can at least help me figure out what I'm actually feeling.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:29 PM
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Except apologising for something when you aren't really sorry (and instead want the person to respond by saying "no apology is necessary") does not demonstrate self-awareness. Accepting and moving on does LT a real disservice because she loses the opportunity to explore what happens for her in these tricky interactions, regardless of what he does with LT's apology.

Hm, good point.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:29 PM
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I passed my surgery exam with an A! It was honestly the best exam so far. For the written I got two marks above the pass mark of 45/60. Then the second half we have it with three teachers. I got lucky the main examiner today was the teacher I've had a crush on since 4th year. He's always been super nice and he was the one I stayed back with twice before for voluntary shadowing whilst he worked a night shift. My questions were easy too. For the last one which was about head and brain trauma I branched into child abuse, and he led with follow up questions about it. The atmosphere was very chilled. The other neuro doc made jokes about me needing glasses to read my small writing ( I told him I was already wearing contacts) and when they asked what I wanted to specialize in I said plastic surgery, I told them it wasn't true though, but the final question they asked me was what would I fix for each of them and I said nothing.

Two more exams to go!!!

Rob also replied back which I did find helpful = saying his door was always open if I did want to come back. I don't think I do at this moment.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:32 PM
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Going to read back and catch up on the new thread!
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:37 PM
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Congrats, Lemon!

You put a lot into that exam, and it sounds like you got the rewards.

I hope you can ease up on yourself a little bit over the next few weeks?
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:38 PM
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Not quite. I think the first stage is for him to consider whether it is useful to you for him to share his response to you or if he would be sharing it out of self-interest. I don't think it would be shared hypothetically, but it would be shared in a way which doesn't assume right/wrong. For example, during an extended silence, my therapist broke the silence to tell me that her thoughts had wandered and she had found herself thinking about something unrelated to me. She said this had never happened before. She asked if this was mirroring what was happening for me - was I finding it hard to stay present? Do I seek situations where disconnection can happen in order that I can avoid connection? I think the idea of where responses come from is only part of the story, it's also about how our current relationships are impacted, what happens to our internal world, and so on.

I am using my therapist as an example with some hesitation because she has a history of sharing/responding really harshly and unhelpfully. Although, she has become much more careful recently.

Oh, I see. He sort of did this once, but it was in response to something I said. Where it had been a session right before he was going out of town, and I realized afterward how I'd been keeping myself sort of distanced. He said that during the session, he'd kept finding himself less engaged and looking at the clock and that he doesn't usually do that during sessions with me. But he'd thought maybe it was that he hadn't eaten enough for lunch or something. So he didn't bring it up. That it made sense once I said I felt like I was keeping my distance. And I think he said he'd mention if he felt like that again.

So, that's not completely the same, because it was about how I was acting toward him, where with your T, she was asking if maybe you do that in other situations with people, too.

Thinking out loud here--say he realized he was feeling irritated in the moment when I was asking him about something. I imagine it would be better for him to bring it up then (or possibly next session) rather than waiting until I asked. Because maybe it was something about *how* I was talking about the topic or how I was approaching the question. Where I was being very indirect about it. And others in my life could potentially react in the same way.

Or if he felt frustrated with me, maybe it was actually that I was frustrated with myself, and he was sensing that.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:39 PM
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I really didn't feel like adulting today. I was laying in the lazyboy before work literally telling myself affirmations to get my butt up and go to work. It worked because I did in fact come to work and I have been working and doing things at my job. But I really wanted to stay home, and take a nap and make some Dabo bread and watch TV. I still want to be doing those things. It is hard to force myself to adult today.


Well done for getting stuff done, but it's okay to also just relax and not force ourselves to be busy all the time. Hope you can do the extra stuff after work. Have you got any vacation days coming up?

I was listening to an audiobook I think you might also like. It was by the minister Dr. Norman Peale. "The power of positive thinking". I did have a copy myself but I actually gave it away to a random stranger I met at the airport. I had a feeling that I should take that book with me and I listened to my instinct.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:40 PM
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I have an appointment next week with New T, Dr. K. I'm starting to get nervous. Like what if he thinks I'm just a waste of time?
You're not a waste of time of time Kit. I hope one day you can believe that too.
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Old Apr 22, 2021, 12:46 PM
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Except apologising for something when you aren't really sorry (and instead want the person to respond by saying "no apology is necessary") does not demonstrate self-awareness. Accepting and moving on does LT a real disservice because she loses the opportunity to explore what happens for her in these tricky interactions, regardless of what he does with LT's apology.
True--but the thing is, this guy has never committed to being the kind of therapist who has an interest in exploring emotions. He's been straight from the beginning about that. So it'd be fair to bash a therapist like Info for missing something like that, but this guy doesn't do that kind of emotional-why analysis regularly as far as I can tell. We might want him to, but we have no reason to expect that he do it.
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I think my BF might be finally starting to “get” my mental health stuff.

Last night we were talking about how I feel insecure about our relationship sometimes, and he said, “babe, you have no reason to feel insecure.” And I said, “I know. This is not necessarily about reason. This is about me feeling a particular way despite knowing that the feeling is unreasonable. This can happen when children grow up in an environment with volatile adults — in childhood, it was adaptive for me to be extremely sensitive and reactive to other people’s moods. Even though that behaviour is no longer useful to me, it is now hard-wired.”

And he started to say, “just try to think positively,” which is something he has said before in these sorts of situations, but I put my hand over his mouth and said, “[BF’s name]. Listen to me. I am very smart and very capable.” And he wriggled his mouth free and said, “I know that!” but I put my hand back over his mouth and said, “if it were that easy, I would have done it already.” And then he shut up and I saw a look of dawning comprehension in his eyes.

He was quiet for a bit, and then asked, “so what can I do to help you feel less insecure?” I said, “I don’t think that you need to do anything differently at baseline. But when I come to you and say, “[BF], I am having one of those moments when I am feeling insecure about our relationship,” it would be helpful if you could reassure me that things are okay then and pat me on the head, and then I will feel better.” He said, “aww” and squeezed me. I said, “is that something you’re willing to do?” And he said yes.

I dunno; we’re certainly not all the way there, but it feels like a start.
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It’s not snowing here. Also I saw galoshes tucked under her desk.

She told me to watch some movie called “The Kid” starring Bruce Willis. Never heard of it, has anyone?
Yea i have. Not seen it from the start all the way through, but it involves a future him coaching a child version of himself.
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True--but the thing is, this guy has never committed to being the kind of therapist who has an interest in exploring emotions. He's been straight from the beginning about that. So it'd be fair to bash a therapist like Info for missing something like that, but this guy doesn't do that kind of emotional-why analysis regularly as far as I can tell. We might want him to, but we have no reason to expect that he do it.
Well, that's true too. Silk purse etc. I don't like hearing about LT being short-changed with some dumbo though.
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atisketatasket, did we just agree about something?! I have been out in the sun today, I must have sunstroke. Do excuse me, normal business will resume shortly.
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atisketatasket, did we just agree about something?! I have been out in the sun today, I must have sunstroke. Do excuse me, normal business will resume shortly.
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A shirt tucked into leggings!?

Yes to being true to herself Oprah style.
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I know this is so stupid and that other people have worse problems than this and I shouldn't even be bothering anybody with it.
Woah artie bean. No one said it was stupid. Pain is pain and you're really not bothering anyone.

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I had a bit of an epiphany while suds-ing up my hair. since I'll never be good enough for her, I really don't need to keep trying to be, do I? Once I actually stop hoping that she'll change, hoping that I will finally be good enough for her, I will finally be FREE to be MYSELF. Holy freaking carp.

I feel like dancing.
Fab work! I'm super proud of you.
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