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Old Aug 14, 2023, 06:47 PM
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You guys, I'm sorry if I'm making too big of a deal out of all this medical stuff. It's just that I'm not used to it - a fact for which I am very grateful. In the grand scheme of my 61-year-life I shouldn't be making a big deal about any of it. I suppose I've always been better at typing about things than speaking about things regardless of what they are.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 06:55 PM
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You guys, I'm sorry if I'm making too big of a deal out of all this medical stuff. It's just that I'm not used to it - a fact for which I am very grateful. In the grand scheme of my 61-year-life I shouldn't be making a big deal about any of it. I suppose I've always been better at typing about things than speaking about things regardless of what they are.

Hugs, Artie. You definitely don't need to apologize for this, and you aren't making too big of a deal out of it. It's scary! It's not like you're on here talking about a hangnail or a papercut. Did you maybe get the message when you were younger that you should minimize medical concerns? (I know I did.)


I hope you'll be able to meet with L to discuss this and that she's helpful.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 07:03 PM
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I agree with LT, Artie. You aren't making a big deal out of your health issues. There could be serious outcomes. Health stuff is scary, and you don't need to be alone in it.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 07:17 PM
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Hugs, Artie. You definitely don't need to apologize for this, and you aren't making too big of a deal out of it. It's scary! It's not like you're on here talking about a hangnail or a papercut. Did you maybe get the message when you were younger that you should minimize medical concerns? (I know I did.)

I hope you'll be able to meet with L to discuss this and that she's helpful.
Thanks LT. Yeah, you're spot on with the childhood message thing! She already responded, and we're meeting Friday afternoon.

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I agree with LT, Artie. You aren't making a big deal out of your health issues. There could be serious outcomes. Health stuff is scary, and you don't need to be alone in it.
Thanks Scarlet. I appreciate that. I haven't been talking to h much about it because all he ever really says is 'don't worry, everything will be fine'... while we're getting along really well overall lately, he just isn't super helpful with this kinda thing.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:04 PM
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I agree. You're not making too big a deal about it. I'd be anxious in your shoes as well. We're here to listen.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:12 PM
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Agree. Artie, not to say things arent serious, but we are lucky to be living now. We have the technology.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:12 PM
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It might be useful to be clear and direct about what you want from him. Whether he is capable of it or willing to do it or not may be a different question. I wasn't the only person my person depended on - I was the main one and took care of the practical stuff and her but she also had a couple of close friends who were sort of secular humanist episcopal ministers and that was better for when she wanted to talk about spiritual stuff - for both of us really as I am completely aspiritual and I would try but it was not my strong suit and we both knew it and worked around it.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:14 PM
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Those british tarts
I like their custard tarts and also Flapjacks (not pancakes -they are oat bars that are delicious)
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:17 PM
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I like their custard tarts and also Flapjacks (not pancakes -they are oat bars that are delicious)
I have been eating crumpets by the tuffetful.
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 09:28 PM
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I have been eating crumpets by the tuffetful.
Crumpets are easy to make and tasty -so good for you
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Old Aug 14, 2023, 11:01 PM
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Those british tarts!
Are you flirting with lemon and moo again?
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 12:48 AM
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Are you flirting with lemon and moo again?
Is my cossetted egg jealous? You know i only have a gullett for you.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:18 AM
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Are you flirting with lemon and moo again?
I am not a tart!

I'm a Victoria sponge cake from Carmelli Bakery.

My family have been buying cakes from there for almost 35 years now. They're the best in London.

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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:23 AM
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Is my cossetted egg jealous? You know i only have a gullett for you.
You were supposed to marry @@ a while ago

Too much tomfoolery going around with Moo.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:30 AM
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You guys, I'm sorry if I'm making too big of a deal out of all this medical stuff. It's just that I'm not used to it - a fact for which I am very grateful. In the grand scheme of my 61-year-life I shouldn't be making a big deal about any of it. I suppose I've always been better at typing about things than speaking about things regardless of what they are.
Artie just a question, but why do you think you minimise what you're going through?

Health issues would be hard to deal with for anyone at any age.

You don't have to swallow your pain. Your pain is real and these are uncharted waters.

You need to have the space to express yourself, which ties in with being seen. You are important enough to take up space in this world and this little old couch.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:34 AM
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Hi everybody. I caught up on the couch. HUGS to Artie and Scarlet and Lemon and Una and anyone I missed that wants one.

Therapy went well last week. My therapist said I talked a lot more than usual and I was very vulnerable with her. (These are good things I presume.) And on Monday last week I went to the Walk In Crisis Center at my T's urging. It was actually pretty good. I have been scared of going there but it was pretty nice. I waited around a while (but I would have waited a while at the ER too) and the T or Social Worker or whoever she was that I talked to was nice and empathetic. She said I could choose to stay the night there if I wanted to but by the time I saw her my crisis was kind of passing (voices being quieter and stuff) so I opted to go home with my parents. So now I have another resource.

Also my sister said if I ever need to come live with her and her new husband I am welcome to (like if/when my parents are passed away which hopefully is a long time in the future). I was kind of worried about that so it's good to have a backup plan in case I can't do it on my own!

Texted my therapist today to check on her dog. She said she is much better. yay! We talk again on Wednesday. Except for her text tomorrow confirming my appointment for Wed.

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I'm pretty sure you're proud of yourself for asking for extra help when you needed it. I'm glad you found another area of support too.

Maybe you could also do a short stay with your sister when you get some holiday leave?
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 12:12 PM
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Artie just a question, but why do you think you minimise what you're going through?

Health issues would be hard to deal with for anyone at any age.

You don't have to swallow your pain. Your pain is real and these are uncharted waters.

You need to have the space to express yourself, which ties in with being seen. You are important enough to take up space in this world and this little old couch.
Thank you sweet Lemoncake. Uncharted waters indeed. I do think that LT had it right, it has to do with how I was raised in a 'just suck it up and quit crying' kind of environment.

I appreciate y'all 'seeing' me here. We'll 'see' (haha) how I handle being further seen by L when I talk about this on Friday... somebody else said this I have forgotten who I'm sorry - but that's rather what she's for, right? That I can sit there and tell her how I'm really honestly feeling about this stuff without having to worry about what she's thinking. Unlike how I feel I have to pretend with my mom that I'm all positive about it and not worried/scared at all.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 01:59 PM
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It doesn't need to be so black and white -there are grays of what you do/say with one person is not what to do with another. I am, not a shock to anyone, more on the keep it down side. Other people who are not me like to think and talk about how they feel around health issues. The problem I see is where panic and disaster thinking takes over.
I do wonder sometimes if people over- apologize in order to be reassured in place of just saying I am scared and would like reassurance to the extent possible. I may be odd but I don't find others reassuring so it isn't my go to stance. Inmy family I am the stiff upper lip and my sibling is the wearing of emotions on their shoulder sort. I think he was switched at birth
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 03:26 PM
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I am of course the sort that over apologizes instead of just asking for reassurance. Which like I said, comes from a long-ago-instilled belief that I'm just being a baby if I need reassurance so it's easier to apologize for carrying on instead of just asking for reassurance. Let me try.

"I'm feeling a little overwhelmed and kinda scared about the doctor saying I need surgery and would like some reassurances if anyone has any to spare." Like that?
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 04:26 PM
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Waiting for the storm to calm down enough to recognise what you need/would find helpful at that point can be a struggle too.

I know I've sat with R, been desperate to say something out loud and watched it more or less turn to dust. She's wise to it now, though.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 07:20 PM
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I am of course the sort that over apologizes instead of just asking for reassurance. Which like I said, comes from a long-ago-instilled belief that I'm just being a baby if I need reassurance so it's easier to apologize for carrying on instead of just asking for reassurance. Let me try.

"I'm feeling a little overwhelmed and kinda scared about the doctor saying I need surgery and would like some reassurances if anyone has any to spare." Like that?
I think the second way is clearer- does it feel any different to you to put it like that? You get to do you -so you of course are the final chooser.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:06 PM
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I think the second way is clearer- does it feel any different to you to put it like that? You get to do you -so you of course are the final chooser.
It feels a lot more vulnerable than apologizing for carrying on. Which makes it more directly honest, I suppose.

Hey wait - that's another codependent behavior isn't it, over-apologizing in an unconscious attempt to make people feel like they need to reassure me.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:10 PM
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In an effort to stop thinking too much, I started a new afghan tonight. I'm really liking this one so far. Should the next color be bright orange? Or a bright blue? I've made this pattern so many times I know it by heart, it's very calming to me.
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:21 PM
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I think my next project after I finish this one is going to be the same pattern but in christmas colors. maybe variegated red/green/white for the center, and then sections of red, green, variegated, green, red with the separating rows in white. Hmm...
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Old Aug 15, 2023, 10:24 PM
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