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Old Oct 16, 2009, 02:11 PM
mandozilla53 mandozilla53 is offline
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I'm sorry this is rather long but I have no clue how to read women. I have been married for 35 years and I'm 56 years old. My wife and I have been separated to 2 years and are getting a divorce. In the meantime.

Back in June I met a woman, divorced for 8 years, 54 years old. We've seen each other 4 or 5 times until just last week but not under romantic or dating situations. But we always hug closely and have a ball together.

This woman is independent (financially and emotionally), smart, has a great great sense of humor, is adventurous, fun loving and has a good heart. Last Friday I was at a musical event and she showed up with her close friend, whom I also consider a friend.

This was a an event where most folks would be spending the night in their tent's, RV's, etc. I had a little too much to drink and this woman offers to take me to her house (nearby) and I could sleep in her motorhome there.

We get to her house, her friend goes home, and she and I sit outside on her patio and continue to have a few drinks. Amazingly we had a very deep personal conversation. We hit it off very well. It got chilly so we went inside to her living room and continued drinking and talking. I sat on the sofa and she came and sat next to me...she could have sat anywhere.

She recently lost a dear friend and hadn't come to terms with it. She was present at the accident where her friend died. She began to cry so I put my arm around her to try and comfort me and she moved closer to me. We stayed there and talked a while more and then we decided it was bedtime.

We said goodnight, she went to her bedroom and I went to the motorhome to sleep. In the morning she asked me if I'd like a shower, I said yes and she set me up in a spare bathroom with every thing I'd need. She took me out to breakfast on the way back to the event from the previous night. We hugged goodbye, I left for work and she went about her business.

On Monday night, I was invited to have dinner at her house before giving her and her girlfriend a music lesson. She cooked me a wonderful meal and baked an apple pie (my favorite...she knew) from scratch...it was awesome. We had our lesson, her girlfriend left and we did pretty much what we did Friday night, drank wine and talked. I wasn't "Drunk" but I had too much to drink and drive. So, again I was offered her motorhome to sleep in.

We talked again about her recently deceased friend and confided in me that she was exhausted and had hardly slept since her friends' passing almost 3 months ago. After much talk and suggestions, I suggested that we watch a movie in her living room and she could snuggle up to me and maybe that might help her to get some much needed sleep.

She agreed to give it a try. She changed into her Pajamas, and brought a comforter. She sat next to me and threw th comforter over both of us. We got comfortable with our feet on the coffee table, her leaning against me and my arm around her. She kept touching the top of my feet with the bottom of hers. It was good.

After about an hour, she fell asleep in my arms and slept peacefully and deeply for about three hours. I did not get 'Roamin' Hands' I was a complete gentleman. Upon awakening, we hugged and went our separate ways for the night. Same thing as Friday she offered a shower which I took and we talked for a couple hours, much more cheerful subjects and then we went our separate ways.

She remembers little details from previous conversation, is happy to see me when we meet, and looks me right in the eye when we talk. We've known each other barely 4 months and have spent a total of maybe 40 hours together in that time. We've told each other details of our lives that most of our friends and family don't know and will never know.

My question is, do you think she likes me? I mean as more than just friends? I'd like to take things to the next level but I will only do so if she invites me there...I DO NOT want to ruin this friendship. Thanks and what do you think?
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Old Oct 16, 2009, 03:23 PM
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My question is, do you think she likes me? I mean as more than just friends?
Hi mandozilla53 and welcome to PC...

Yep,,she likes you....and yep again,,,more than just friends...

If you want the best chances of this working long term,,,clean up the kitchen before making a new meal....

With Care,

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Old Oct 16, 2009, 03:39 PM
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I agree with Lenny ...she is obviously setting things up for them to advance at one point. The comforter over "both" of you...things like that I mean. I am female so I think I know hahaha.

Also, I agree with the kitchen. I think you are doing a very good job in how you are handling the situation. One thing...I agree and personally need a man to be a gentleman but please be sure to make it aware to her that you are interested in her in more than a friend way if that time comes around. You just don't want her to doubt herself that she attracts you. I am sure you know what I am trying to say

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Old Oct 16, 2009, 03:50 PM
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What a love story You have made me smile. I'm so happy for you! She DOES like you!!!! No woman puts on pj's and snuggles with a man, if she isn't looking to be close to him. However, its sounds like she has been through a lot and she is probably wants to take things slow. Don't rush it, let her be in charge. But I would definitely tell her that you care about her. Don't tell her you love her, it might push her back some. But just say that you really like spending time with her. I think she is feeling really lonely and is enjoying your company...ENJOY it TOO! Don't worry about anything. You have more than a chance than you think you do. Just be there for her...and eventually she will sneak a kiss on you But let her be in control. Good luck and keep us updated!
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Old Oct 16, 2009, 05:44 PM
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Wow! All your comments have lifted my spirits today. I intend to take it slow, continue to be a gentleman, and let her be the one to control the situation. I am so attracted by this women on so many levels besides physicaly or sexually.

We share a deep love for music and we play music together. Please understand, the last time I went through these emotions and situations, I was 19 years old...that was 1973! Thanks for all your encouraging words.
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Old Oct 17, 2009, 03:32 AM
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This is an awwwwwww moment .....
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Old Oct 17, 2009, 04:21 AM
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yeah she likes you more than a friend. I'm a woman and there is no way i would snuggle under a blanket with a guy unless i liked him more that a friend. I think that next time you hug hold her for a little bit longer and them slowly pull away and then give her a soft kiss on the lips. If she doesn't like it you can just apologise and then talk about why you did it. But i'm pretty sure she would love it and want to kiss you back. I don't think that this type of thing would wreck a friendship as strong as what you have described.
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Old Oct 17, 2009, 07:46 AM
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Mandozilla, you are well on your way to the trust level with this woman in more ways than one. That is the best part of a relationship. And, yes, exactly what Lenny said. Finish your previous life first. Take this very, very slow and gentle. You will also need to spend time when both of you are in an emotional "neutral" state.

I am 56 and my husband is 68. We recently celebrated our 10th wedding anniversary. This isn't the first or second rodeo for each of us. But it's the last and by far, the best. He says that he never knew what it meant to love someone. He says that simply being with his best friend at the grocery store, drinking coffee on the front porch while watching the sun come up over the mountains, talking about old times at university, planning a trip over the winter months, little things are the best. It's the sharing.

You two already know that you can share. That's wonderful. I am very happy for you.
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Old Oct 17, 2009, 09:43 AM
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I suggest before that kiss to bring her a nice bouquet of flowers and a nice bottle of wine. That will let her know you too are interested but still take it slow and yes clean up the old before the new. neither of you need to be hurt by the past.
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Old Oct 18, 2009, 01:06 PM
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Mando ,,, yea >> this is a very cool post ...
....... and the Lady seems comfortable around you and the trust is building >>... I know the " I Love You" stuff is prolly too soon ,, But you could always say >> " I'm in like with you " and give her a nice kiss on the cheek and whisper in her ear ,, [ something flattering ] your hair looks nice , or " I dearly Love your hugs and our close alone time ect .. [ you get the picture >>.... and then give her a noogie >... ..

Well >> skip the noogie >> hehe .
enjoy the company ....
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 09:15 PM
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HI there. Thanks for all the feedback. Several things have happened since my last post. First, I have seen an attorney and filed for divorce and I've moved out.
I had an interesting 2 days since then with the lady in question. I stopped by her house (invited) for a few drinks. I've moved fairly close to her house and she wanted to show me some things. At nightfall, she loaded a small ice chest with a few beers and she took me to a spot she used to go to when a young woman. I drove her, in her sports car, top down, and we arrived at a little parking lot in the hills a few miles from her house.
We took two beers and walked about 3/4 of a mile up the trail. We sat and looked at the lovely view of the city lights and talked about my meeting with my lawyer. After a while, we decided to go get something to eat. We walked back to her car, had another beer and talked some more. We got something to eat then went back to her house and drank and talked 'til about 2 AM. This girl (she's 54) is so easy to talk with. Anyway I spent the night, in a separate bedroom. Pretty dull eh?
Here's where I need help. In the morning, we were drinking coffee on her patio and talking about pretty personal and intimate things. She was still in her pajamas. While she was talking, she was running her fingers through hair and looking me right in the eye. Our patio chairs were facing directly at each other. She was sitting facing me with her feet on the seat of her chair with her genital area facing me directly. Of course she had her pajama bottoms on and was not really exposed.
I tried hard not to look but I'm sure I took a few glances at her crotch and when I looked back at her face are eyes met and she was smiling as she continued to talk. She made no attempt to put her feet down or to close her legs.
What I'd like to know from the ladies is she just very comfortable around me or is there something I don't understand about this kind of body language and should it mean anything to me?...HELP?
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