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Old Apr 12, 2016, 08:23 PM
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I have an exceptional relationship with my wife. We enjoy each other’s company, she is very supportive and loyal. She admires me and we spend all of our time together.

We were both previously married. She has two adult children and I have 3.
She has stated that she wanted a husband without children. Her relationship with her own children is strained. They are not close.

When we met, she was very kind to my children. She bought them gifts and was extremely friendly.

Once we were married, all of that changed.

She became rude to my kids. She didn’t attend my daughter’s wedding or my son’s graduation.

My other daughter flew in from out of state. My wife wouldn’t even say hello. We went out to dinner, my wife went to sit at another table. We went on vacation, she wouldn’t hike with my kids, and she avoided sitting with them on the beach.

Anytime my kids call in the evening, she gets upset.

I developed a habit of not Facetiming or calling or texting my children when we are together in the evenings.

To my credit, I have kept in touch with my kids. We go out to dinner, we meet up on birthdays and holidays. If I were to count our texts and phone calls, it amounts to probably 30 per month.

My wife explains that my contact with my kids is abnormal and excessive. As time has passed, she has simply become more and more critical of my kids. It’s to the point that she just doesn’t like them or want to spend any time with them.

Many of my wife’s grevances are valid. My kids are not perfect; they have been through their mistakes. My oldest has a history of smoking marijuana, my son has had repeated problems with driving under the influence. My out-of-state daughter left her husband for another man. Still, I want to disapprove of their behavior while not totally ruining my relationships with my kids.

This whole dynamic came to a crescendo this week. My daughter from out of state simply decided that she doesn’t want to Facetime, text, call or talk anymore.

She explains that my wife sees her as “the other woman” My daughter maintains that our relationship requires too much energy, and that it really was pretty easy before I met my wife. My daughter explains that my wife has forced me to choose between my spouse and my kids, and I there is certainly truth in that statement.

I believe that my daughter is seening a mistake and trying to protect me from my own historic bad judgement with women.

If any of these people loved me, they would not be trying to blackmail me. I have sacrificed all of my money, my time and my energy for them and they are all trying to manipulate me.

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Old Apr 12, 2016, 11:19 PM
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Have you asked your wife why she is so insanely jealous of your children?


I mean THAT is abnormal, not being in regular contact.... That's called being a good father....
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Old Apr 13, 2016, 07:09 AM
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I don't find your regular contact with your adult children as abnormal nor excessive. If anything it sounds at a normal level.

I'm sorry to read that her own relationships are strained with her own kids. That's her truth to own. Not yours to compensate for.
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Old Apr 13, 2016, 08:51 PM
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If you consider this number of calls/texts excessive then hell, my family and I must be absolutely obsessed with each other lol. The one thing that REALLY stood out to me was "my wife's grievances ARE valid". I'm not sure if that was a typo or what but I don't see this behavior she has towards your own kids as valid whatsoever. No matter what your children are guilty of, they are your kids and there's never any reason for you to dump them or think that they deserve less from you. I could tell you loads of crap I've done in my life, yet my family and I will always have unconditional love. I think your wife and you should seek counseling to get down to why she feels so jealous. There must be some underlying issues there.

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Old Apr 13, 2016, 10:33 PM
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I have an exceptional relationship with my wife. We enjoy each other’s company, she is very supportive and loyal. She admires me and we spend all of our time together.
I find this statement puzzling and would be interested to hear more about it. As far as I can see, it does not seem supportive or loyal to disrupt your fine relationships with your children, to the point of rudely ignoring them, sitting at different tables, and boycotting life-changing events like weddings and graduations. Nor does it seem like she admires you for those relationships.

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My daughter explains that my wife has forced me to choose between my spouse and my kids, and I there is certainly truth in that statement.
It sounds like you are in the process of choosing your wife over your children. What are the reasons for this choice?

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If any of these people loved me, they would not be trying to blackmail me. I have sacrificed all of my money, my time and my energy for them and they are all trying to manipulate me.
Would you expect your children to accept any and all disruptions to their lives, including your wife's insulting behaviors and your own refusal to speak with them in the evenings, and to structure their lives so as to conform with your wife's demands?
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Old Apr 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
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I have an exceptional relationship with my wife. We enjoy each other’s company, she is very supportive and loyal. She admires me and we spend all of our time together.

We were both previously married. She has two adult children and I have 3.
She has stated that she wanted a husband without children. Her relationship with her own children is strained. They are not close.

When we met, she was very kind to my children. She bought them gifts and was extremely friendly.

Once we were married, all of that changed.

She became rude to my kids. She didn’t attend my daughter’s wedding or my son’s graduation.

My other daughter flew in from out of state. My wife wouldn’t even say hello. We went out to dinner, my wife went to sit at another table. We went on vacation, she wouldn’t hike with my kids, and she avoided sitting with them on the beach.

Anytime my kids call in the evening, she gets upset.

I developed a habit of not Facetiming or calling or texting my children when we are together in the evenings.

To my credit, I have kept in touch with my kids. We go out to dinner, we meet up on birthdays and holidays. If I were to count our texts and phone calls, it amounts to probably 30 per month.

My wife explains that my contact with my kids is abnormal and excessive. As time has passed, she has simply become more and more critical of my kids. It’s to the point that she just doesn’t like them or want to spend any time with them.

Many of my wife’s grevances are valid. My kids are not perfect; they have been through their mistakes. My oldest has a history of smoking marijuana, my son has had repeated problems with driving under the influence. My out-of-state daughter left her husband for another man. Still, I want to disapprove of their behavior while not totally ruining my relationships with my kids.

This whole dynamic came to a crescendo this week. My daughter from out of state simply decided that she doesn’t want to Facetime, text, call or talk anymore.

She explains that my wife sees her as “the other woman” My daughter maintains that our relationship requires too much energy, and that it really was pretty easy before I met my wife. My daughter explains that my wife has forced me to choose between my spouse and my kids, and I there is certainly truth in that statement.

I believe that my daughter is seening a mistake and trying to protect me from my own historic bad judgement with women.

If any of these people loved me, they would not be trying to blackmail me. I have sacrificed all of my money, my time and my energy for them and they are all trying to manipulate me.
You do not need to choose between your wife or kids. You just have to stand up for them to her. Thing is she can dislike them or not but she has no right to stop you or judge you for how much you talk to them. In a nutshell her opinions on this may be valid but her expectation that you change your behavior with them is not.

Your daughter probably expects you to stand up for her and the other children and just tell your wife to hush about it and stay out of it. That does not mean that you disrespect her but that you make a stand for what you feel is right. This is something that is very important in your relationship anyway, she is crossing boundaries already. you say she admires you, etc... I question your depiction of her because of this whole fiasco. A woman that respects and admires you shows this by her respecting your values and knows where to draw the line.

That your wife says your daughter is like the "other woman" speaks clearly to her insecurities and these insecurities are hers and hers alone, not based on your relationship with your daughter. speaking to your child regularly whether texting, facetime or in person is perfectly normal and that she does not understand this shows the issue lies with her, not you. YOU should not be modifying your behavior for her, thereby enabling more of her dysfunctional behavior. Just look at how she doesn't have a relationship with her kids, that speaks volumes as to her dysfunction. Don't choose between, choose what is right and that is to give your kids the attention and respect they deserve and hope for from their father, in spite of your wife. She needs to get into counseling to find out why kids seem to rub her the wrong way just because they are someone's offspring. Crazy thing is that's the only thing that differentiates them from you or your wife is that they are your offspring. other than that they are just other adult people. furthermore we all are offspring of someone!

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If any of these people loved me, they would not be trying to blackmail me. I have sacrificed all of my money, my time and my energy for them and they are all trying to manipulate me
This part, in particular, bothers me. if any of these people loved you.. Umm, I see no blackmail happening from anyone but your wife. your daughter is NOT blackmailing you but choosing to tell you that it's too difficult to talk to you. If you were talking to your child and in every conversation there was some kind of complication that made it difficult to talk to her wouldn't you probably choose to sstop talking or at least talk to her less? I see part of it as being a way of protecting herself as it seems to me your daughter feels attacked and under scrutiny everytime she interacts with you.

Please just put the blame where it belongs and that is first, on your wife, and then you for allowing it and enabling her to continue to manipulate your relationship with your kids.
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Old Apr 14, 2016, 01:32 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2016, 07:47 PM
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Her strained relationship with her biological children should have been looked into more. That was your clue something was very off with her.

Her complaints are only increasing, right? Realistically, she will not be happy until you have almost no relationship with your children. So yes, you ARE being forced to choose.

I think you should tell your wife you need a divorce and she should go and look for a man with no children.
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Old Apr 15, 2016, 05:27 PM
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I think your wife is being unreasonable. The level of contact you have with your kids is, at least to my way of thinking, the right level. I agree with the above poster that your wife will most likely not be happy until she has isolated you totally from your kids.
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Old Apr 18, 2016, 07:07 PM
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I think your wife is being unreasonable. The level of contact you have with your kids is, at least to my way of thinking, the right level. I agree with the above poster that your wife will most likely not be happy until she has isolated you totally from your kids.
I agree completely. Your wife is out of line here. No one who loves you would ask you to scale back your relationship with your children. I live out of state from my dad and I talk to him on the phone about every other day. I think that's pretty normal.
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Old Apr 20, 2016, 11:59 AM
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I think your wife is being unreasonable. The level of contact you have with your kids is, at least to my way of thinking, the right level. I agree with the above poster that your wife will most likely not be happy until she has isolated you totally from your kids.
I agree for the most part, but would go further and say whatever level of communication is right for him and his children is good enough for me and NO ONE has the right to say it's not, including the wife.
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Old Apr 20, 2016, 05:05 PM
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I agree for the most part, but would go further and say whatever level of communication is right for him and his children is good enough for me and NO ONE has the right to say it's not, including the wife.

You're absolutely right.
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