[IAmAChicken]

Lesson of the Day: Not all Finnish speak English. Stereotypes are not necessarily true.

If you guys have seen the threads on the anglophobic Finnish 16 year old girl named Kira, I am the one responsible.

I have aspergers and ocd, so it's hard for me to do things the right way. I was banned on several forum sites because people (mainly Finnish) thought I was a troll. I am not. I just want help for this girl who is not getting any help because she doesn't speak English.

I am not schizophrenic, and Kira is not a figment of my imagination. She is a real girl, and she apparently is not your average Finnish stereotypical person.

I just want to get things clear. I need the help for her to strive. I am her babysitter when mom and dad are away, and she can do normal teenager things, except for speak English. We communicate with Google Translate.

Also, because of my aspergers, you may think I am obsessed with Kira. I am not, but I am concerned for her life in the US. My ocd also kicks in.

So if you think she's imaginary, you're way off.

[lizardlady]

IAmAChicken, I've read your multiple threads about Kira. I'm going to lay it out there bluntly. It is not your responsibility to "fix" Kira. If her fear/dislike of the English language is not causing her pain or problems then it is not a problem. If it is causing her problems it is up to her to seek help. You can NOT solve someone else's problems.

What problems are you having that we at PC might be able to help with?

[divine1966]

She is not a member on this site so how are we supposed to help her?

There are many opportunities for one to learn English in the US. She could learn. I've learned in my 30s and have a professional job and master's degree, I didn't speak a world of English when I immigrated. My brother and sister in law adopted a kid from overseas (he was 14), he spoke not a word, he is now 20, is in college obtaining engineering degree and getting excellent grades. He certainly speaks English although he has an accent but accent doesn't bother anyone in the US. He received excellent ESL services etc etc

There are plenty ESL services in California. If she refuses to learn its her problem. Google translate won't get her far.

Same as previous poster I wonder if you need help with something that we can help you with?

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[divine1966]

Once again there is no such thing as "your average stereotypical Finnish person". Same as any other cultures every individual is unique. There is no stereotypical Finnish people out there. We might have Finnish people on the forum. It's offensive

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[eskielover]

Besides, it's her parents responsibility to get her the help needed to thrive, NOT YOURS.

PC is a site to provide support for people with mental illness issues & has no ability to provide anything to FIX or HELP PEOPLE THRIVE. Honestly have no idea what in the world you are REALLY even expecting from this site as you are having a difficult time communicating anything that is even reasonable for this site to support as we support the people who are on the site. It's impossible to support someone who isn't even a member of PC..... & PC doesn't FIX anything. We are just normal people with our own things we need support with.

To get anything FIXED , it takes professional help & that is NOT available here on PC & can only be found by professionals in the world you are living in.

If there is real support you might need, you need to better communicate.

[amandalouise]

Iamchicken... i can understand that you feel as this 16 yr olds babysitter you need to help her. the line in the sand is that if you are not this girls parent you dont have any legal rights to get this girl help. only her parents or court appointed guardian can help this girl...

that said as her babysitter in some states that means you are a mandated reporter. this means in some states \ locations if a babysitter has suspicions or concerns that a child that they are taking care of or have taken care of is being abused or otherwise need mental or physical health services the babysitter must contact the police or child protective services. then the police and child protective services will investigate to see if this child does need any special mental, physical or educational services, then see that the child receives those services.

now I have a thought... here in the USA 16 yr olds dont usually have a babysitter. they are usually the ones doing the babysitting of younger children in their neighborhoods. since you say you are this 16 yr olds babysitter her parents had to have hired you to baby sit this teen ager. if her parents or guardian have hired you to baby sit a 16 yr old then they are already well aware that she needs special services and is most likely either getting it or in the process of getting the special services that she needs.

because you are not family, you are the baby sitter it may be that due to confidentiality laws the family and this teen can not tell you what services / help, mental and physical health treatment that is probably already going on.

lets face it what 16 yr old is going to tell their babysitter that they are taking speech and language classes the equivelent of kindergarten grade level to learn how to speak english. what 16 yr old is going to tell their friends and baby sitters that they are seeing in teen age language "a shrink"....

not to mention it must be very humiliating for this teen ager to know her parents hired a babysitter to watch her, spend time with her like a baby... its no wonder this teen ager would rather communicate by google then to tell a babysitter they are taking the equivelent of kindergarten speech\writing\reading class to learn english.

my suggestion is if you feel this is an emergency and that this 16 yr old isnt getting the services she needs as a babysitter /mandated reporter to contact the police and child protective services.

my other suggestion is talk with her parents, they are the ones that are legally able to get her the help she needs.

my other suggestion is that to let things be if you choose not to talk with the parents or contact legal services. my reason for saying this is that if you attempt to get this person help when you dont legally have permission to do so you can end up on therecieving end of legal problems. I would not want that to happen. you need to let those who are her parents take care of this.

[amandalouise]

did some more checking all states in the USA designate babysitters as mandated reporters. that means when someone is or has babysat someone child, teen or adult and they feel the child, teen, adult is in need of special services, or in need of mental physical or educational services that they are not getting due to many reasons must make a report to the child or adult protective services in that childs location or through the national hot line system. After the report is made an investigation is done to see if the child\teen\adult is being neglected or abused in any physical sexual or emotional way. if so action is taken (action means either the one doing the neglect or abuse is arrested and prosecuted and the child \teen\adult in need of a babysitter\caretaker or otherwise supervision is remanded over to inpatient or outpatient services that fits that child\teen\adult needs such as foster care, hospitalization or other inpatient\out patient residential services that fits the neglected\abused physical and emotional needs. )

my suggestion is if you really feel this friend needs help that they are not getting and want to help the best thing you can do for this person is make your mandated report, then let the police and child protective services do their job of investigating and getting her the help you feel she needs.

hope she gets the help she needs and deserves

feel free to update us and post concerns you have

[divine1966]

I don't see what needs to be reported. If the girl refuses to learn English she will not pass classes and will not obtain high school diploma. It's weird but not s reportable offense. The girl is being confused and had some racist attitudes which again is not something to report.
Unless there is something else that we don't know

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[eskielover]

Remember also:

Originally Posted by IAmAChicken

[B]I have aspergers and ocd, so it's hard for me to do things the right way. .......
Also, because of my aspergers, you may think I am obsessed with Kira. I am not, but I am concerned for her life in the US. My ocd also kicks in.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by divine1966

I don't see what needs to be reported. If the girl refuses to learn English she will not pass classes and will not obtain high school diploma. It's weird but not s reportable offense. The girl is being confused and had some racist attitudes which again is not something to report.
Unless there is something else that we don't know

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I gave info on the reporting due to posts about this 16 yr old stated the girl is anglophobic (a recognized phobia in the USA, phobia's are considered to be a mental health problem\issue) and her parents are not getting her mental health treatment for this, they are enforcing the phobia rather than getting treatment for it, so poster was asking for help in getting this 16 yr old help with her phobia. here in the USA when a parent is refusing to get medical or mental health treatment it is the crime of child abuse in the form of neglecting that childs mental health problems.

[Talthybius]

She/he is saying she/he is not obsessing because he/she has obsessive disorder?

[s4ndm4n2006]

Originally Posted by Talthybius

She/he is saying she/he is not obsessing because he/she has obsessive disorder?

seems like a contradiction here:

Originally Posted by IAmAChicken

Also, because of my aspergers, you may think I am obsessed with Kira. I am not, but I am concerned for her life in the US. My ocd also kicks in.

Also aspergers is not a reason to assume obsessiveness, OCD, on the other hand.

by the statement that "ocd also kicks in" kind of says that this person is admittedly obsessing or... I'm confused.

[eskielover]

Originally Posted by IAmAChicken View Post
[b]I have aspergers and ocd, so it's hard for me to do things the right way. .......
Also, because of my aspergers, you may think I am obsessed with Kira. I am not, but I am concerned for her life in the US. My ocd also kicks in.

right before the last statement in the beginning of the post she says she is both Asperger's & OCD.

I have observed where someone with Asperger's gets something stuck in their mind about the way something is & there is NOTHING that anyone can say to convince them otherwise even if it's NOT really the way it is.....it is in their own thinking. Could be a combination of both?

[s4ndm4n2006]

Originally Posted by eskielover

right before the last statement in the beginning of the post she says she is both Asperger's & OCD.

I have observed where someone with Asperger's gets something stuck in their mind about the way something is & there is NOTHING that anyone can say to convince them otherwise even if it's NOT really the way it is.....it is in their own thinking. Could be a combination of both?

interesting I've seen many people that I know that are simply stubborn act the same way. I wouldn't put it down as either ocd or aspergers as you describe it.

[eskielover]

Ive known stubborn people do it also....not arguing with you there. You never know what combination of all 3 might be involved

[IAmAChicken]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

I gave info on the reporting due to posts about this 16 yr old stated the girl is anglophobic (a recognized phobia in the USA, phobia's are considered to be a mental health problem\issue) and her parents are not getting her mental health treatment for this, they are enforcing the phobia rather than getting treatment for it, so poster was asking for help in getting this 16 yr old help with her phobia. here in the USA when a parent is refusing to get medical or mental health treatment it is the crime of child abuse in the form of neglecting that childs mental health problems.

Thank you

[ComfortablyNumb5]

I just lost an hour of my life catching up on all these posts. They are all the same. All of them. And someone also brought up in another thread in which you made your title in French, that it wasn't correct French. Yet you say you speak French correct? At first you said these Finnish stereotypes where of her thoughts then you say all these stereotypes are correct! That would be pretty offensive to members on here that may be Finnish. You say finish people are all gamers and metal heads who are satanic and you've seen proof through Google and YouTube. Again, offensive. Google video games in America and you're going to see the same stuff and same genres of people.

As far as Kira goes. What exactly should we do? Do you want us to find her a French speaking therapist or something? That's not our jobs here. And besides this girl is underage so unless her parents step up and get her help, it's out of your hands. A lot of this story doesn't make sense to me at all I apologize. In many of your posts you say one thing and something different in the next.

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[divine1966]

Couple of Kiras threads were closed already

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