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Old Jan 12, 2018, 08:30 AM
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Is she stalking you on online forums or other online venues or FB? Could you block her? Or ask moderators to block her? Is this the type of setting where you can’t block or unfriend or ignore people? Since she isn’t stalking you in real life, I’d think you’d be able to block her?
Okay, in response to both you and Eskielover, because I understand what is happening to Artchic, you can block the person all you want, it's not stopping them from trying to get at you. I, unfortunately, cannot go into specifics of how they do this, because I don't want to divulge what has happened to me and give any one any ideas on how to go around the privacy settings people set up. I would be happy to in a PM if you're curious. But please, just trust me, if the cyberstalker/bully wants to get at you, there are certainly ways.

Certainly there are things you can do, like on Facebook, where you can block them. But what I find is that each time you block them through one mechanism, they just go to the next vehicle to try and harass you there. This is the nature of their obsession, they just don't stop because a roadblock goes up. They don't stop when you get the authorities involved. Maybe they can't stop, I don't know.

So, yes, you implement all the privacy settings you can, but then you also continue to document any contact they try to do...and each time they find a new way, you block that too, but you still document it.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that all you do is document. What we're saying is that in addition to all the protections you can put in place to block this person, also document everything that happens in case you need to ask the authorities for help, so you can show the pattern of behavior.
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 04:09 PM
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THANK YOU Seesaw, I had no idea they had ways around privacy settings & blocking. Definitely doccumenting what goes on when that happens is IMPORTANT so the guru's can figure out how to plug those holes too.

What a horrible experience!!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2018, 04:41 PM
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Why cant you block, unfriend, ignore, everything possible to stop seeing her & her being able to contact you instead of RECORDING everything she does? I am not following this logic. Ehen someone bithers me, I block & keep them out of my life I dont record their activities because that sucks me into whst they are doing instead of distanciing.
In relation to RECORDING/documenting I was referring to stalking behaviours in the physical realm...Online stalking I agree would be best dealt with by cutting all access and connections to this person...but if somehow messages and proof of unsolicited access seeps through...keep a copy for future reference.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 07:04 AM
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Well, one member did chime in about his stalking behaviors and what goes through his mind, etc. And how he tries to combat it. I try to have compassion for everyone, even people who have obsessive behaviors like this. At the same time, I cannot read another person's mind or know that they are harmless or not, so I will still protect myself and keep myself safe.

I'm sorry you find this entire thread triggering. Honestly everyone could be triggered by any thread in this subforum because we are all talking about relationships and communication with other people and anyone could identify with the OTHER person rather than the OP in this forum. But we are here to give support to the OP and others who have experienced what it's like to be violated by stalking.
I wonder how many people have come close to stalking at various points in their lives but do not choose to share it even anonymously for fear they'de be villified. I mus thave missed that single person you mention...
of course everyone should protect themselves from stalkers because you never know how far it might go.

You're correct that any thread can be found triggering by someone but that doesn't mean that person can't say they find it triggering either. There is always the villified 'other'.
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Old Jan 13, 2018, 08:56 AM
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I wonder how many people have come close to stalking at various points in their lives but do not choose to share it even anonymously for fear they'de be villified. I mus thave missed that single person you mention...
of course everyone should protect themselves from stalkers because you never know how far it might go.

You're correct that any thread can be found triggering by someone but that doesn't mean that person can't say they find it triggering either. There is always the villified 'other'.
You know, not for nothing, this is from the community guidelines:

"Pedophiles, rapists, and others that have abused another individual physically, psychologically, emotionally or sexually (generally real or acted-upon) are not welcome here because our focus is on support for victims of such abuse; the two are not compatible with one another. Exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis."

I would think that stalkers qualify under abusers. I frankly don't care if someone who has abused me can get emotional support or not. That's not my concern. If someone on this forum needs support for obsessive thinking about someone, I'm all about helping them handle their intrusive thoughts, but I'm not going to condone or pretend to condone abusive behavior.

This thread is about the damage that being stalked has done to us. If you want to start a thread about dealing with obsessive thoughts related to stalking then maybe that's what you should do, instead of coming on here and challenging people who have been the victims of this abuse.

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Old Jan 13, 2018, 10:46 AM
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You know, not for nothing, this is from the community guidelines:

"Pedophiles, rapists, and others that have abused another individual physically, psychologically, emotionally or sexually (generally real or acted-upon) are not welcome here because our focus is on support for victims of such abuse; the two are not compatible with one another. Exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis."

I would think that stalkers qualify under abusers. I frankly don't care if someone who has abused me can get emotional support or not. That's not my concern. If someone on this forum needs support for obsessive thinking about someone, I'm all about helping them handle their intrusive thoughts, but I'm not going to condone or pretend to condone abusive behavior.

This thread is about the damage that being stalked has done to us. If you want to start a thread about dealing with obsessive thoughts related to stalking then maybe that's what you should do, instead of coming on here and challenging people who have been the victims of this abuse.

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thanks for pointing out the rules. I didn't see myself as 'challenging people' but if it how you saw it then that is enough for me to stop. I also wanted to add that it is true that I find many threads triggering here, not just this one.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 03:35 PM
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It is a fine line....the behavior of my H was abusive to me but the way I responded to that abuse could be seen as abusive to him. The condition I found out he has that created his unusial behavior is said by those who have it thao one just has to tolerate those behaviors because that is WHO they are & "tough luck if you are hurt by it....that is your problem". These kinds of issues get complicated.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 04:24 PM
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I imagine these individuals are drama junkies and they seek out individuals they can get worked up in some kind of drama. This type gets bored with being thoughtful and caring, what they thrive on more is the thrill drama brings to them.
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Old Jan 14, 2018, 09:32 PM
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Wow, sorry to hear that Buffy. I think the good thing to remember is that social media and online groups are totally optional and we can be as anonymous as we want. You can change your user name to something no one will ever recognize, you can change details/names/places of your story so you can get support without people having to know who you are.

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I tried to sue the person who had has the website but I found out that even though she is a doctor. I wasn't her patient. I found myself banned from the forums and the chat on her website and I did nothing wrong. I never gave them my real name out of fear.
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You know, not for nothing, this is from the community guidelines:

"Pedophiles, rapists, and others that have abused another individual physically, psychologically, emotionally or sexually (generally real or acted-upon) are not welcome here because our focus is on support for victims of such abuse; the two are not compatible with one another. Exceptions can be made on a case-by-case basis."

I would think that stalkers qualify under abusers. I frankly don't care if someone who has abused me can get emotional support or not. That's not my concern. If someone on this forum needs support for obsessive thinking about someone, I'm all about helping them handle their intrusive thoughts, but I'm not going to condone or pretend to condone abusive behavior.

This thread is about the damage that being stalked has done to us. If you want to start a thread about dealing with obsessive thoughts related to stalking then maybe that's what you should do, instead of coming on here and challenging people who have been the victims of this abuse.

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I concur wholeheartedly. Stalkers are abusers. They abuse their membership on mental health sites to harass and objectify another human being, who is already tender, vulnerable and otherwise susceptible to being triggered by such behavior. It's actually the most cowardly of cowardly behavior IMHO to abuse someone in this particular position. It's no wonder why stalkers are sociopaths, they have no empathy or sense of compassion whatsoever.
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Old Jan 21, 2018, 09:21 AM
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The problem is that thebterm stalker is losely defined & what may seem luke a stalker to one may not seem like it to someone else.

Some because of their mental condition don't even get it that what they are doing is coming across as stalking to others. We actually had a thread like that hers on PC.....definitelf NOT a sociopath. Generalized labels are not ALWAYS appropriate even if they fit many times
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Old Jan 21, 2018, 09:38 AM
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Stalking is defined as two unwanted contacts. So, no, it's not loosely defined. If you notify someone their contact is unwanted, and they continue to approach you and try to have contact with you, then they are a stalker.

And I'm not discounting that someone who is a stalker may not be aware of their behavior. I know the thread that Eskie is referring to, and, yes, these people are suffering from their own illness and demons. I don't like generalizing them as psychopaths or any other derogatory term.

But legally the behavior is called stalking and they are stalkers. Having an illness does not make them any less of a stalker. Having a mental illness is not an excuse for illegal or harmful behavior towards another.
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Old Jan 21, 2018, 08:27 PM
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Yeah, like i hate to say this, but I'm being cyberstalked right now on this site. Thankfully the admins and mods here have been handling it very quickly. I really appreciate their responsiveness to this issue and understanding that it is very real.

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Old Jan 25, 2018, 06:59 PM
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Artchic, people who turn into stalkers on the web are typically lonely and dysfunctional people who try to target others in a negative way so they can feel like they have some kind of power and they try to find ways to get their target to feel bad about themselves. These kind of individuals were often neglected as children and this neglect made them angry so they began learning to gain attention in unhealthy ways. They often pick targets that remind them of the parent that neglected them too. They are individuals who don't take rejection well so when they are blocked and not engaged they tend to look for ways to still get at the individual who is choosing to reject them. It's also not unusual for these kind of individuals to try to find others who will join in with their effort to pursue and challenge the individual they are trying to target. Their identity revolves around taking away the identity of others. This is an effort to make up for how their parent or someone in their own life failed to help them form their OWN identity and develop healthy "self" respect.

One of the bad things about this Cyber technology is that it has become an effective tool toxic individuals can use to hurt others. Even the creators of Facebook have admitted that the use of the likes and dislikes when it comes to whatever a person posts on Facebook is actually unhealthy for a persons mental health. Studies have shown this to be true. The truth is that just because something is new and popular doesn't mean it's something healthy and "safe". Actually, the individuals that create and put out all this technology make it a point to limit their own children from being exposed to it and instead choose to have their own children educated the old fashioned way without the help of this technology.

That being said, the computer technology we do have can also be a source that someone can find helpful and look for information that provides that person with ways to learn and gain personal knowledge. It's always important to remember that when it comes to engaging on any kind of social site that you can most definitely come across other individuals who use these sites in unhealthy ways.
This actually happen to me. I made a mistake and join a support group thinking that I would get some help and before I knew it I started being threaten and call names by multiple people who started mobbing me like crazy in a chat room and I couldn't get the evidence to save. I went somewhere else and the same group of people under a different name started threaten me harassing me on a daily basis they use what they said in a chat room as way to degrade by making false accusation about me. I never could get the girl to admitted that she was bullying me and harassing me. She kept saying you you you and you think I did that you think that I had a part of that. Then made an accusation I had told everyone she had me banned but then went somewhere and said that she wasn't responsible for anyone being banned. Some I thought were my friend online.
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The problem is that thebterm stalker is losely defined & what may seem luke a stalker to one may not seem like it to someone else.

Some because of their mental condition don't even get it that what they are doing is coming across as stalking to others. We actually had a thread like that hers on PC.....definitelf NOT a sociopath. Generalized labels are not ALWAYS appropriate even if they fit many times
My sister friend is doing this to me on her Facebook even though I don't have a Facebook. i told her I could sue her but she I can't.
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