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Old Jun 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
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Ruby, you are totally inappropriate with your supervisors and you’re going to get yourself fired again. You have a bad attitude and you do not respect authority. You never learn.
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Old Jun 20, 2020, 07:22 PM
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Ik my original comment was legitimately rude but it was only cuz I didn’t know better. I’m sorry I offended her but I’m also mad that she looks down on me since that day. I worked with her 2 years and she just recently became like this
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Old Jun 20, 2020, 07:33 PM
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But you never apologized. Apologizes can go a long way to turn a persons attitude around towards you.
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Old Jun 20, 2020, 07:37 PM
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Ruby when you are rude to people and don’t apologize and don’t take responsibility, it’s inevitable that people start behaving differently towards you. Sadly it happens over and over to you. Please continue working with your therapist and other treatment providers in order to improve.
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Old Jun 20, 2020, 10:54 PM
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said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
In an apology, one says "I'm sorry I did X." Period. "I'm sorry I was rude". One accepts responsibility and does not try to blame the other person in any way.

When you said "Not everything is about you" you took away the apology, you made it seem like you thought things were her fault.

A proper apology would be to say in a calm and sincere manner "I'm sorry that I was rude to you."

No excuses such as you didn't know it was rude. Whether you knew or not, it was still rude and hurtful. No blaming her, like saying she should have responded differently.

Just this, said in a calm and sincere way: "I'm sorry that I was rude to you."
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 12:11 AM
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A Karen is a new slang for easily offended, entitled women. That’s what I’m calling her lol. I tried to apologize recently. I said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
It's possible she's sensing further tension from you because you, too, haven't let this go. Calling her a "Karen" and telling her not everything is about her, just adds to the problem and undoubtedly shows in how you behave around her.

I think it's time for a pause and reset.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 05:13 AM
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A Karen is a new slang for easily offended, entitled women. That’s what I’m calling her lol. I tried to apologize recently. I said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
Definitely is not an apology AND shows a great deal of rudeness and disrespect in your own attitude and dealings with authority figures. You seem to know enough to know YOU are being rude here. You KNOW you are using a disparaging term as you write about your manager. I'm honestly not convinced you don't know you are being rude when you are being rude in person. You seem to pick and choose when you completely get social rules and and subtleties and when you don't.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 07:24 AM
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A Karen is a new slang for easily offended, entitled women. That’s what I’m calling her lol. I tried to apologize recently. I said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
Ruby, your attempt to apologize was even more rude to your supervisor. You did blame her fore being offended, then you insulted her further by saying not everything is about you. Of course she's going to treat you differently.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 07:39 AM
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A Karen is a new slang for easily offended, entitled women. That’s what I’m calling her lol. I tried to apologize recently. I said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
Good for your for standing up for yourself, Ruby. No matter what you said, the next day is a new day and your supervisor/co-worker needs to treat you and themselves and each other with respect. There is no place for holding grudges in the workplace (or anywhere else, for that matter).

Karen had no business telling that to the other co-worker either. If Karen is your supervisor she should be fostering good relationships among herself and employees, not encouraging or continuing any strife that may or may not have been present.

Yes, it would have been better if you had not said that about the GM because it appears that it inadvertently offended this woman--but now at this point she needs to get over it.

If you have a disability and the company knows about it, no one is supposed to be abusing you because of it.

You'll want to be careful about using popular terms like "karen" at work. Even if it is very popular, it is better to just call people by the name they want you to use, and to not refer to them by popular terms like karen on the job. Some people find that very upsetting. I made the mistake of asking a young man (this was years ago) what the popular term was for his generation--Gen X, Gen Y, slacker, what was it..? And he became almost hysterical screaming he was not a slacker. I wasn't trying to call him a slacker; to this day I still don't know the answer to my question--but I learned not to ask it.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 09:06 AM
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“Sorry you are offended” isn’t really an apology. “Sorry I was rude to you” is an apology

Bring this up in therapy so you could discuss difference between the two

“Karen” is not a new slang. It’s inappropriate to use at work though.
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 08:06 PM
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I work at McDonald’s and GM’s usually don’t work night shifts. Also, only one manager close each night. An hourly manager was scheduled to close that day (3-11 pm) and I said I want the GM to close. The GM already worked a full day shift. The hourly manager said I’m rude. I asked her how I was rude and she said, “I’m closing. Get over it.”

I wasn’t even talking about her. I was talking about the GM. How was I rude to her? Some people take offense to everything!
Yeah sorry but I agree with everyone else. You definitely messed up. It is very inappropriate and unprofessional to act that way at work especially towards a manager. You are lucky you were not fired. I know people in management positions that would have either severely reprimanded you or even fired you on the spot. I’d recommend you apologize to the manager and all should be good.
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Old Jun 24, 2020, 08:13 PM
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A Karen is a new slang for easily offended, entitled women. That’s what I’m calling her lol. I tried to apologize recently. I said sorry you’re so offended with my “rude” comment. Not everything is about you.
Ruby, you may not be aware, but a "Karen" is slang for "entitled WHITE woman." Please don't use this slang at work because you are going to find yourself in a lot of trouble, especially if the person you're referring to IS Caucasian.

Very loaded term. Just don't use it at all.
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