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Old Jun 21, 2021, 02:10 AM
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Exactly. Aspergers lead normal lives. Autism don’t.

Neurotypicals do unless they have mental illness. I moved completely off the spectrum at the end of high school only to be hit with borderline (which I’m sure I had some features of as well throughout my childhood).

I been treated as ASD throughout my 20s until I saw a specialist who worked extensively with personality disorders. Every other therapist I saw attributed my craziness to ASD. But I’m too socially savvy to be aspergers.

What else can I do while I wait for my appointment?
Asperger is not being used as diagnosis anymore. It’s all ASD, what was considered Asperger before we s just mild ASD, that’s why it’s a spectrum

Yes people with ASD can live normal lives but many need help to navigate social cues and relationships

Ruby socially speaking things you do and say are very socially inappropriate. We aren’t here to diagnose you, you told us your diagnosis. Just telling you that your behaviors aren’t socially acceptable and aren’t socially savvy

ASD isn’t something you move away from, it’s not something that could go away. People with ASD could learn to navigate life and many lead successful lives but they don’t stop being on a spectrum. Who told you don’t have it anymore?

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Old Jun 21, 2021, 02:16 AM
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You are overstepping professional boundaries asking coworkers to do whatever you call "therapy." with you.

The changing of your name is creepy. Buying the same shake for the person outside is strange.

Ruby, I'll tell you the truth and then I'm going to leave your threads alone. Sometimes it seems like you fill your posts with weirder and weirder details and it almost feels like you're playing with us.

If you really are behaving like this at your workplace, you have no business working at all. If you're not on disability, you should probably look into that.
Honestly some people with ASD do and say things that are hard to believe could be possibly true, yet they are true. That’s where the struggle often is.

But in situation with ruby after telling us for years that she has ASD she now says she doesn’t. That’s an interesting turn of event to say the least
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 02:28 AM
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 03:27 AM
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What kind of special job environment are you referring to?

As part of a rehabilitation program where a team of various professionals help people with mental illness to go live and work independently as far as possible. (It likely would take years in your case too.)

These programs are designed to help people with all kinds of mental illness, even schizophrenic people.

They do provide special job environments as part of that.

Psychiatric rehabilitation - Wikipedia

I have a nice thick book on this subject somewhere at home but I'm not able to get to it and look it up now. So I just googled the wiki article. If I remembered the title of the book I'd tell you, but unfortunately I do not.

It really sounds like so far no one focused enough on your case to help you with that enough. But I don't know about your history/background, I'm only going by this thread. But I do know that if they let you work in a regular McDonald's then you are not receiving the best possible care right now. And that is a problem for your mental health.

Good luck with getting better professional care.



EDIT: The last thing I want to add. Checking out divine1966's link, it does also mention:

"The Autism Response Team can help you learn more about (see the bolded especially):
  • Where to get a diagnosis
  • Schools and special education
  • Advocacy and support
  • Adult services - including post-secondary programs and employment
  • Inclusion and community activities
  • And much more!"

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Old Jun 21, 2021, 03:44 AM
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You are overstepping professional boundaries asking coworkers to do whatever you call "therapy." with you.

I agree that she needs to just accept that she can't work without the right professional support given for now. Because whatever she's trying to keep working in that workplace, it's just hurting her obviously and a burden for other people who then will hurt her further because of it, even if they don't intentionally want to harm her.



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The changing of your name is creepy. Buying the same shake for the person outside is strange.

It's certainly not in line with normal social standards but at least the person outside got a nice meal And yeah she will have to learn to process her grief using her own emotional imagination or other techniques without having to display it to everyone around her, even to relative strangers like coworkers.



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Ruby, I'll tell you the truth and then I'm going to leave your threads alone. Sometimes it seems like you fill your posts with weirder and weirder details and it almost feels like you're playing with us.

Mental illness can be like that especially near a mental breakdown. It can be disturbing for those witnessing but we cannot blame the person for it. I hope she gets the help she needs, in a professional context, where she is least likely to get hurt and overloaded more.




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Asperger is not being used as diagnosis anymore. It’s all ASD, what was considered Asperger before we s just mild ASD, that’s why it’s a spectrum

Yes people with ASD can live normal lives but many need help to navigate social cues and relationships

Ruby socially speaking things you do and say are very socially inappropriate. We aren’t here to diagnose you, you told us your diagnosis. Just telling you that your behaviors aren’t socially acceptable and aren’t socially savvy

ASD isn’t something you move away from, it’s not something that could go away. People with ASD could learn to navigate life and many lead successful lives but they don’t stop being on a spectrum. Who told you don’t have it anymore?

Agreed. My thinking - without knowing any of the previous background tbh - is that it may be ASD (and maybe there's a touch of Dependent PD, but I'm not diagnosing!!), and because of how she's trying to fit into the world without enough professional support, she's starting to display more Borderline symptoms because of the overwhelm too, plus maybe has BPD issues anyway.

So it's definitely very much worth a try checking this out, whether support/resources for ASD people would help her. In my understanding, ASD and other non-neurotypical people cannot really change themselves beyond a point and they shouldn't even force it, they just need to find a way to manage. Or otherwise it'll be overload and further mental illness like the above, I imagine.


That's just one possible interpretation though re: ASD, I have very little information here, the only one thing I am sure of is OP needs professional help & stop overloading herself with trying too hard for now. Because a lot of the symptoms she's displaying right now are due to that, like her other thread too. It's definitely concerning.

I think I can't add more to this thread though. I'm not going to post more on here.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 12:04 PM
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I agree that she needs to just accept that she can't work without the right professional support given for now. Because whatever she's trying to keep working in that workplace, it's just hurting her obviously and a burden for other people who then will hurt her further because of it, even if they don't intentionally want to harm her.





It's certainly not in line with normal social standards but at least the person outside got a nice meal And yeah she will have to learn to process her grief using her own emotional imagination or other techniques without having to display it to everyone around her, even to relative strangers like coworkers.





Mental illness can be like that especially near a mental breakdown. It can be disturbing for those witnessing but we cannot blame the person for it. I hope she gets the help she needs, in a professional context, where she is least likely to get hurt and overloaded more.






Agreed. My thinking - without knowing any of the previous background tbh - is that it may be ASD (and maybe there's a touch of Dependent PD, but I'm not diagnosing!!), and because of how she's trying to fit into the world without enough professional support, she's starting to display more Borderline symptoms because of the overwhelm too, plus maybe has BPD issues anyway.

So it's definitely very much worth a try checking this out, whether support/resources for ASD people would help her. In my understanding, ASD and other non-neurotypical people cannot really change themselves beyond a point and they shouldn't even force it, they just need to find a way to manage. Or otherwise it'll be overload and further mental illness like the above, I imagine.


That's just one possible interpretation though re: ASD, I have very little information here, the only one thing I am sure of is OP needs professional help & stop overloading herself with trying too hard for now. Because a lot of the symptoms she's displaying right now are due to that, like her other thread too. It's definitely concerning.

I think I can't add more to this thread though. I'm not going to post more on here.
None of us are diagnosing anything. Ruby is diagnosed with ASD. It’s not that she “may or may not” have it. She’s been receiving services due to ASD for many years. She was also diagnosed with BPD. We are going by what she shared. It’s not a guessing game
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 12:42 PM
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None of us are diagnosing anything. Ruby is diagnosed with ASD. It’s not that she “may or may not” have it. She’s been receiving services due to ASD for many years. She was also diagnosed with BPD. We are going by what she shared. It’s not a guessing game

Yeah I remember seeing her on chat. I was instrumental in getting my ex fiancé diagnosed with ASD. I thought he had bpd. The two seem to overlap . Food service is definitely not the right environment for someone with ASD and BPD. Does Ruby not have agency support? Someone should show these posts to her worker.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 12:48 PM
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Yeah I remember seeing her on chat. I was instrumental in getting my ex fiancé diagnosed with ASD. I thought he had bpd. The two seem to overlap . Food service is definitely not the right environment for someone with ASD and BPD. Does Ruby not have agency support? Someone should show these posts to her worker.
She used to have agency support. I am not sure what happened.
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 12:50 PM
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She used to have agency support. I am not sure what happened
Even then there were still serious problems she was having. They just let her keep spinning her work wheels where she was being unsuccessful & doing nothing about it
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 12:54 PM
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Even then there were still serious problems she was having. They just let her keep spinning her work wheels where she was being unsuccessful & doing nothing about it
Seemed that way. But then again we only know what we see on here.
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She used to have agency support. I am not sure what happened.

I’m surprised she hasn’t been fired .
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I was in therapy usually 3 times a week while i was working, and i still had a very difficult time. My managers often told me i was unprofessional (and i worked in an office environment).

Managers often talked about having balance in your life, which i lacked. I had no personal life. My family of origin was a source of angst, not support. I see a lot of similarities between myself and Ruby. I would "leak" personal issues all over my coworkers.

Part of it was not being medicated. Prozac hadnt even been invented yet. But a lot of it was upbringing and just who i was. I was lucky that i had a high iq and was really good at my job, but eventually i got let go from every job i ever had, when, as my last boss said, i became more trouble than i was worth. My family was also increasing pressure on me at that time. It is hard when no one is on your side in life.
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When that GM stopped by 6 weeks ago, he wanted to borrow cleaning supplies because of upcoming inspection at his store. Right as he was heading out the door, my coworker M started talking to him about his own blood sugar cuz M recently developed diabetes,

I expected that GM (I’ll call him J) to rebuff him cuz J was busy AF. Instead J engaged in that conversation for at least a couple minutes. Right after that, I attempted to talk to J as well jokingly asking him to stay awhile. He never acknowledged what I said to him. Instead, he immediately just said, “bye (insert my name).”

I cried in the restroom for half sn hour while still on the clock. That was the day J first walked out on me.

Even worse, a few days later, M told me he and J were messaging each other food they ate each night and low carb recipes. My heart visibly shattered into a million pieces. M then quickly added that other than that they don’t really talk to each other. Supposed to take the edge off my wound. Nope too late. I spent almost an hour crying in the lobby while clocked on (it wasn’t even remotely busy that early in the morning).

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I’m surprised she hasn’t been fired .
Fired for what exactly?
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Fired for what exactly?
Behavior unacceptable to the workplace, not doing your job for the time you are paid for. I am sure the list could be easily added to if they really wanted to
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Behavior unacceptable to the workplace, not doing your job for the time you are paid for. I am sure the list could be easily added to if they really wanted to
I am fairly certain Ruby was fired from Arby's for stalking her supervisor - or stalking behavior.
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I am fairly certain Ruby was fired from Arby's for stalking her supervisor - or stalking behavior.
Correct. I’m constantly misunderstood
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You were not misunderstood you were stalking your supervisor and you were warned repeatedly and you persisted and had a legal op against you. Stop trying to manipulate the truth to get sympathy. What you are doing is completely inappropriate and you know it and are aware of it, but you continue the same behavior and expect sympathy.
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I only meant that my good intentions are not matching up with how I actually come across
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You were not misunderstood you were stalking your supervisor and you were warned repeatedly and you persisted and had a legal op against you. Stop trying to manipulate the truth to get sympathy. What you are doing is completely inappropriate and you know it and are aware of it, but you continue the same behavior and expect sympathy.

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I am fairly certain Ruby was fired from Arby's for stalking her supervisor - or stalking behavior.
Yes.....I remember that & she just couldn't understand why
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I only meant that my good intentions are not matching up with how I actually come across
Your "good intentions" are inappropriate behaviors, not JUST how you come across. It is this kind of totally inappropriate social behaviors that do tend to indicate that your diagnosis of ASD was very accurate. When people are forced to tolerate your inappropriate behaviors in the work place where they just want to do their job they DON'T LIKE IT & that is when they don't want to have anything more to do with you. People avoid people who behave inappropriately when it ends up touching their lives personally. No one cares about your "good intentions" because the only thing that matters is how inappropriate you act. Until you can learn better social skills & workplace appropriate behavior, these issues will follow you everywhere you go. So STOP blaming the other people & take responsibility for your own behavior
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I’m surprised my support forums hasn’t put any restrictions on her postings . They’re pretty generous with her.
Im not seeing anything against guidelines? She is just frankly discussing w9hat happened. her actions, her intentions, the results, and her feelings. I should be so honest and articulate!
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Im not seeing anything against guidelines? She is just frankly discussing w9hat happened. her actions, her intentions, the results, and her feelings. I should be so honest and articulate!

I know I said I wasn't gonna respond anymore....but....

1. Yeah she's frank, too frank, makes her a target easily to hostility, impatience, intolerance. That's indeed an ASD trait.

2. She's too angry and entitled at the same time though maybe she's just venting strongly. Which fans the flames further.

3. Everyone here is frustrated because...? Is it that hard to handle that we are unable to help her?

Is it that hard to detach and let people be as long as they are not trying to actively harm us? Really?

All this hostility is not going to make OP learn anything faster.

Think about that, all of you.

*bows out of thread for real*
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Old Jun 21, 2021, 05:09 PM
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Im not seeing anything against guidelines? She is just frankly discussing w9hat happened. her actions, her intentions, the results, and her feelings. I should be so honest and articulate!

Interesting. Even though members keeping telling her the same thing? Good for her.
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