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Old Aug 02, 2023, 11:55 AM
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I know it’s a control thing. He often threatens to leave me or take my name off the joint account almost everytime he gets upset with me.

It’s extremely upsetting. He told me that I’d get nothing at all, not even my used car if he leaves me or if I leave him.

Why would he do that to me after being married to me for almost 30 years? That’s just evil!

I have nowhere to go literally. I can’t stay with my parents as I’ve been banned from the house by my psyho sister who lives there. I doubt that any friend of mine will care enough about me to let me stay at their place for long too.

Only one did for a few days years ago, but then her dad told her to not get involved as my husband could come after her. So she probably won’t help me anymore.

I live in a 50/50 state, Ca. btw. I wouldn’t be able to afford a lawyer without his help, so I’d be screwed. He is sick & vile! I hate him but I’m stuck because of finances.
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Old Aug 02, 2023, 12:46 PM
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He’s just saying it to scare you. It doesn’t work that way. Judge will decide. You don’t work. He’d have to pay spousal support and if you own the house together you get a half. Your husband will be ordered to pay for your lawyer.

I recommend you apply for disability if you cannot work.
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Old Aug 02, 2023, 04:51 PM
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I have to add that I don’t believe it’s evil to leave marriage that isn’t a good one. Saying stupid mean things is evil but leaving isn’t. Ideally we’d all be married for life but in reality life is too short to be miserable.

What’s he upset with you about?

If there’s a possibility of divorce I’d start planning accordingly. Stashing some money. Not worrying about movies or concerts or restaurants. I don’t really understand how you could do all that if there’s a possibility of homelessness. Stash that money. Even if he is ordered to pay alimony, it would be tough to survive. You need to either work or be on disability. Start putting money aside.
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Old Aug 02, 2023, 06:06 PM
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He;'s saying it to control you. He's abusive, so it's all about power and control for him over you.
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Old Aug 02, 2023, 10:58 PM
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I threatened to leave for years until I finally could afford to. Had nothing to do with control but everythingbto do with his financial irresponsibility & his immature behavior I tolerated for 33 years.

Yea, when I was still with him I hired a divorce lawyer hoping it would be simple just to split everything (in Calif also) but he wanted everything & it was going to be a battle because he was & is a jerk. I was dealing with a trauma already & couldn't add the battle to it so I had the money to leave & move 2100 miles away & start life over with good therapy. I finally left & the threatening was over. Still had to deal with some major stupid financial things he had done & finally got my divorce in the state I moved to. He didn't believe I would really leave & he believed I would come back to him after I was away a couple of years. I have been gone 16 years & never looked back or regretted leaving.

Yea, saying mean things isn't good or right but I understand. I was so fed up after 33 years with him that only mean things came out of my mouth.

Don't minimize the possibility that he will leave. I told my now ex exactly what needed to change for me to stay but by the end there isn't any change he could have made that would have convinced me to stay. He said he believed that because I tolerated him for 33 years that I would tolerate him for the rest of our lives.

It is not wise to assume that your husbands threats to leave are idle threats just about control. I remember you posting about things that made your husband mad. Sometimes the mad doesn't go away it just stays & simmers until it hits a boiling point & the threat to leave is no longer a threat but a reality.
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Old Aug 03, 2023, 11:03 PM
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There are Section 2030 fees in California which are statutory fees awarded to the low income divorcing party when that party can prove that their former partner can afford paying for both attorneys, their own and that of the low income party. It depends on the ability to pay. It is not guaranteed that you will get them but you can try for them. It does not seem that there is anything left in your marriage worth preserving so you are of course well advised to consult with an attorney now. You can start by going to legal aid.

What is your state of access to information about your joint accounts?
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:19 AM
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He’s just saying it to scare you. It doesn’t work that way. Judge will decide. You don’t work. He’d have to pay spousal support and if you own the house together you get a half. Your husband will be ordered to pay for your lawyer.

I recommend you apply for disability if you cannot work.
That’s what I thought, thanks. I’ll apply for disability.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:20 AM
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I have to add that I don’t believe it’s evil to leave marriage that isn’t a good one. Saying stupid mean things is evil but leaving isn’t. Ideally we’d all be married for life but in reality life is too short to be miserable.

What’s he upset with you about?

If there’s a possibility of divorce I’d start planning accordingly. Stashing some money. Not worrying about movies or concerts or restaurants. I don’t really understand how you could do all that if there’s a possibility of homelessness. Stash that money. Even if he is ordered to pay alimony, it would be tough to survive. You need to either work or be on disability. Start putting money aside.
OK. I should’ve done that years ago.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:21 AM
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He;'s saying it to control you. He's abusive, so it's all about power and control for him over you.
True. He could’ve divorced me a long time ago. He is a control freak, ugh.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:22 AM
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OK. I should’ve done that years ago.
You can start now
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:23 AM
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I threatened to leave for years until I finally could afford to. Had nothing to do with control but everythingbto do with his financial irresponsibility & his immature behavior I tolerated for 33 years.

Yea, when I was still with him I hired a divorce lawyer hoping it would be simple just to split everything (in Calif also) but he wanted everything & it was going to be a battle because he was & is a jerk. I was dealing with a trauma already & couldn't add the battle to it so I had the money to leave & move 2100 miles away & start life over with good therapy. I finally left & the threatening was over. Still had to deal with some major stupid financial things he had done & finally got my divorce in the state I moved to. He didn't believe I would really leave & he believed I would come back to him after I was away a couple of years. I have been gone 16 years & never looked back or regretted leaving.

Yea, saying mean things isn't good or right but I understand. I was so fed up after 33 years with him that only mean things came out of my mouth.

Don't minimize the possibility that he will leave. I told my now ex exactly what needed to change for me to stay but by the end there isn't any change he could have made that would have convinced me to stay. He said he believed that because I tolerated him for 33 years that I would tolerate him for the rest of our lives.

It is not wise to assume that your husbands threats to leave are idle threats just about control. I remember you posting about things that made your husband mad. Sometimes the mad doesn't go away it just stays & simmers until it hits a boiling point & the threat to leave is no longer a threat but a reality.
Sorry to hear about your divorce. I’m glad to hear that you’re better off now. He is probably still resentful about a lot of things.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 11:24 AM
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There are Section 2030 fees in California which are statutory fees awarded to the low income divorcing party when that party can prove that their former partner can afford paying for both attorneys, their own and that of the low income party. It depends on the ability to pay. It is not guaranteed that you will get them but you can try for them. It does not seem that there is anything left in your marriage worth preserving so you are of course well advised to consult with an attorney now. You can start by going to legal aid.

What is your state of access to information about your joint accounts?
Thanks. I didn’t know that.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 03:37 PM
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Go ahead, Jesyka, a bad marriage isn’t worthy.
Trace a plan as Divine said. Apply for disability and save money.
You can do it. Don’t be afraid.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 05:53 PM
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Sorry to hear about your divorce. I’m glad to hear that you’re better off now. He is probably still resentful about a lot of things.
He may be resentful but that is NOT my problem. He actually ended up with the house which he lost to foreclosure because he is financially irresponsible & who knows what else he has done with everything I left when I moved away. His resentment is unfounded since he was responsible for himself. Easy to blame others for bad choices he made.
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Old Aug 07, 2023, 06:15 PM
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Thanks. I didn’t know that.
Given how often his threats occur and how unhappy you are in general in this marriage, it behooves you to learn more by talking to an attorney or at least checking out a NOLO book on divorced from the library.
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Old Aug 09, 2023, 02:41 AM
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Given how often his threats occur and how unhappy you are in general in this marriage, it behooves you to learn more by talking to an attorney or at least checking out a NOLO book on divorced from the library.
Thanks, I will.
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Go ahead, Jesyka, a bad marriage isn’t worthy.
Trace a plan as Divine said. Apply for disability and save money.
You can do it. Don’t be afraid.
In the US, disability (SSDI) is government-run insurance program. You have to pay into it while you work to qualify for it later. You work, you pay taxes, you become eligible for disability. You need to have worked for an equivalent of 10 years (not necessarily in a straight line) to become eligible. I do not think that Jesyka has worked enough to qualify.

I know there is SSI which is not run like this, but it pays very little money and I do not know what the housing situation is for OP since you need to have almost no resources (assets). But of course it is worth looking into Who can get SSI | SSA

Just explaining @AzulOscuro that it is a very difficult situation without straightforward solutions that easily come to mind.
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Old Aug 12, 2023, 07:17 AM
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Pretty much similar than in Spain.
There wasn’t a single second in which I thought it would be easy. Trace a plan involves all kinds of considerations, information, applications, try not to slam a door just in case.
Nothing is easy and I never intended to mean it.

Thank you for the information. I’m sure it will be very helpful for the OP.
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Old Aug 12, 2023, 07:32 AM
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To qualify for disability you need to show that you absolutely unable to work. You need to be under consistent treatment, you need to regularly see a therapist if your disability is for mental health. Also even if qualify, your payment will be peanuts if you are married to employed man, have a house, car, go on international vacations etc You need to be destitute to get any SSI.

I’d certainly talk to a medical professional if they think there’s even a chance. Even if the person has s disability, it doesn’t mean they’d qualify for disability if they are able to work. Ton of people with disabilities work. Do your doctors think you cannot work?

So Jesyka if you want to go that route, you need to talk to your doctor. You need to divorce your husband and have no income to qualify for SSI or you need to see if you work long enough to qualify for SSDI
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How long have the two of you been married @jesyka?
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Old Aug 16, 2023, 03:33 AM
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To qualify for disability you need to show that you absolutely unable to work. You need to be under consistent treatment, you need to regularly see a therapist if your disability is for mental health. Also even if qualify, your payment will be peanuts if you are married to employed man, have a house, car, go on international vacations etc You need to be destitute to get any SSI.

I’d certainly talk to a medical professional if they think there’s even a chance. Even if the person has s disability, it doesn’t mean they’d qualify for disability if they are able to work. Ton of people with disabilities work. Do your doctors think you cannot work?

So Jesyka if you want to go that route, you need to talk to your doctor. You need to divorce your husband and have no income to qualify for SSI or you need to see if you work long enough to qualify for SSDI
Thanks. So applyimg for disability is useless then?
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Old Aug 16, 2023, 03:34 AM
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In the US, disability (SSDI) is government-run insurance program. You have to pay into it while you work to qualify for it later. You work, you pay taxes, you become eligible for disability. You need to have worked for an equivalent of 10 years (not necessarily in a straight line) to become eligible. I do not think that Jesyka has worked enough to qualify.

I know there is SSI which is not run like this, but it pays very little money and I do not know what the housing situation is for OP since you need to have almost no resources (assets). But of course it is worth looking into Who can get SSI | SSA

Just explaining @AzulOscuro that it is a very difficult situation without straightforward solutions that easily come to mind.
Thanks. I have not worked long enough to qualify.
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Old Aug 16, 2023, 05:52 AM
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Thanks. So applyimg for disability is useless then?
I never said it’s useless. I am just saying it’s not as simple and you need to talk to your doctor about it as they’d know if you are unable to work

Can you prove that you are unable to work? Not that you don’t like those jobs or don’t get along with bosses but literally unable to work? I don’t know

If you haven’t worked 10 years in your life, SSDI it out of the question buy SSI pays very little and you need to be very low to no income. From what you describe on here you aren’t low income at all because your husband provides for you.

Now if you divorce your husband and have no income then you might qualify for SSI. But you need to talk to your doctor if they think you have a chance. They know you better
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My husband was approved for SSI disability the first time he applied. In his case, he had been laid off (pandemic) for about 4 months. He had worked full time his entire life until then. He had a well-documented serious medical condition that was no longer responding to medical intervention. He also was diagnosed with early onset dementia (which we are pretty certain was the clincher). He was unable to safely drive himself anymore. His income from SSI was actually about what he was bringing home from his job, which wasn’t a huge amount but we were happy with the amount in his case.

From my research during the process, they generally need well-documented diagnosis and a history of regular treatment. Usually they say you have to have been unable to work for a year. I think in my husband’s case, it was clear that his employer had made significant accommodations that were beyond what most employers would ever consider. And his medical conditions were highly debilitating. During the process, they discovered a doctor’s notation recommending assessment for memory loss that we hadn’t had the chance to pursue, and social security paid for having that assessment done during the process.

All I can recommend is that you go onto the website and look at the information. I was very unsure he would qualify because he had worked within the year, but my gut told me his medical history would trump the timeline which it did. You just don’t know until you try.
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Old Aug 16, 2023, 08:27 AM
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He probably got SSDI if he
had been working for a long time. SSDI is part of the withholding taxes that come out of the pay checks. SSI is for disabled people who have not met the work requirement.

SSDI is based on your income & is like taking early Social Security. SSI is totally different & pays much lower monthly benefits
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