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ty for the concern Darrel, although i'm sure you knew i was in therapy are you ok?

i'm sure we all have sad days ..... i'm sure a lot of us are used to them ..... i'll get over it

Kerry xx

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hoping soon ((Kerry)))) (please dont use my real name on board, ty

Jinny,

I have been married for 35 years and am a hopeless flirt but, I don't view porn. My DW does not like me flirting all the time, she puts up with it though. I think men have very hard shell egos that are nearly impenetrable. The peer pressure is so hard on us that we have a tough time showing affection because it is looked at by our peers as weakness. So, we do things for our women. Work hard, provide comforts, go on holiday and spend money on them. It took me many years to break from the mold of macho-ness. I hold hands in public with my DW and show affection toward her in public. She gets a bit angry when I grab her butt in public, but I do in discreetly. I always act like it was an accident, lol. Your hubby needs to make the decision in his mind that he doesn't care what his friends think or what his ego says, he is going to love you the best he can, perhaps he already is showing you and you aren't seeing it. He has been with you through a lot, right? He has provided in the best way that he can.

Ladies, not all men are feminine. We are men, not metrosexuals or sissy boys, quit trying to make us have touchy feely emotions when we weren't made that way. What do you want? Do you want a provider, a macho guy to protect you, or a sniveling sissy boy that is constantly hanging on you and being all blubbering. You know you ladies, we love you, I mean we really do but, you need to let us be men and stop trying to change us into little sissy boys.

I'm not trying to start a fight here, and I care deeply for many of the ladies here, especially the OP, Jinnyann, but, there is a limit to how much a man can endure. I speak for a lot of men when I say that we are trying to express our love and we do it in deeds. We have a hard time saying the words, it is awkward to many of us but, we try. I know it is something that you need to hear and we don't say it enough but we do, we work hard and we provide for you and that is how we say those 3 words. I work hard=Ilove you for many men.

I know I rambled a lot here but, I hope that the true intent of this post came through.

I love all the women in my life and I try to tell them, in words and deeds. Some men just can't say the words, I know it is hard but, I was one of them. Now I think I say it too much and it sounds phony to me but, my DW likes to hear it so, I say it to her because I mean it.

I hope that you, Jinnyann can one day hear those words as often as you need to.

I like erotica. Any chance you can enjoy it together?

i like to write erotica but keep it for myelf, i'd like to write a novel one day .... i also read it for escapism ie Jilly Cooper books .....

Guy you did come across a bit harsh actually, i dont think showing your feelings is sissy ... i dont want tony hanging off me and turning into a nancy boy *** ... i crave affection and i dont get it ... i dont think it's too much to ask either .... if a man can watch porn getting off on younger womens bodies and he knows that makes his wife hurt and angry it's a poor show .... END OF

NTR sorry I used your real name, it never bothered you before so I asssumed it was ok .... it wont happen again ....

Jinny ((((((((NTR))))))))))

*** just for the record i dont like the word nancy boy .... there is nothing wrong with being gay and that came acrss a bit homophobic ......

((((((Guy))))no hard feelings, just disagree on this particuar subject ....

(((jinny))) hope everything works out for ya

I hope it works out for you, too, JinnyAnn.

Well, I went to therapy yesterday and explained all this to my t. She asked about Tonys upbringing and i told her a few things about his parents. So she gave me a few ideas.

I talked to Tony on the way home and he was so very understanding. I told him i want our marriage to work and i will not give up after 20 years. I told him i loved him, i told him what i felt was wrong. He is going to call his therapist and talk to him properly, because in the past he hasn't opened up ... so i know he wants us to work too ..... *tears* i feel so much better i told Tony i feel as though i dont know him, he is so closed up. He obviously wants to do something about this himself, so i think having a talk helped ...... just thought I'd add a positive note to this thread ..... ty everyone for helping me out here ..... hugs, Jinny xoxoxoxoxoxoxo

is this a bump moment?

Tony is like a changed person .... he really listened to me the other day and is being so lovely he really is being affecionate and loving, i feel like a queen, a bit of commumication goes such a long way .... abeing able to show him some love is so nice becasue it is reciprocated ..... fingers crossed this will last

Jin xx

i'm happy for you Kerry....you deserve happiness and love galore girl.

hang in there and hope hope hope all will stay good for you yes?

Hope so Roz ....... mmmmmmmm great morning this morning

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