[skittles]

me and my b/f r having some trouble in r relationship right now...... he doesnt drive right now so im his transportation.. well this appartment went up for rent ..its a 2 min walk from his work...... he wanted me to call the number for him for the appartment... after i did he told me that he wanted me to call incase we break up thay way he can get to work..... so wewent to look at the place fore rent and he asked my opion abut the place and i told him it was up to him.... yesterday he decided he wanted to rentthe place...... when we were arguing the other day he said he asked god what he should do..... well i called the huy today to tell him he wanted the place for rent and the guy said he already rented it out.... could that be a sign.. could it be god saying u didnt get that place for a reason.... that we r gonna be fine??

[(JD)]

God does work in mysterious ways... however, He is quite clear about the prospect of "living with someone who isn't family (and you aren't married to.") He says don't do it.

Since you brought the issue up.. maybe it would be good to have your own separate places and continue to develop your relationship from there?

I hope things work out for you (((skittles)))

[Rhapsody]

Possible...... but in all reality one never really knows until that person (or both parties) feel that they are committed to the end and that breaking up is no longer an option for them.... only fixing it is.

This is what happened to my husband and I - we use to fight like cats and dogs around about the 7th year of our marriage and then one day our eyes were opened and we both realized that DIVORCE was not an option that either one of us ever wanted to take, so from that day forward we work hard on working it out.....
Not mention the help - a lot help we got from GOD - I feel He personally kept us together until we were able to mature enough to see what was to be for us, as a couple - til Death us do Part.

Good Luck......... ((( hugs )))

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

[skittles]

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_Sky said:
God does work in mysterious ways... however, He is quite clear about the prospect of "living with someone who isn't family (and you aren't married to.") He says don't do it.

Well thats isnt gonna happen...... weve lived together for 2 years and i wouldnt have it any other way...... but we r doing alot better now....... seems like weve gotten even loser with each other......

[Rhapsody]

Hang in there Skittle...... and YES, while God is very clear on how He feels toward the issue of living with some one as if you were married when you are not - and it being sin - He also has a way of working things out for all concerned and for forgiving us of those sins.

Example: My husband and I were not married when we had our first child together and then we became saved and God still worked it all out for us - in that he kept us together (under the same roof) and touched our hearts to let us know that we needed to make our life a family matter for the three of us now, and that took 6 months from the point of us being saved to the point of us becoming man and wife.

God does not judge or condemned another as humans some times will do - God loves you no matter what and works on you from the inside out - and all while in the mist of your sins...... as HE did with His own Disciples, for we must remember that some of them were living with and with in sin when He personally chose them to follow Him - and it was not until after that moment and in time that Christ helped His Disciples to change from their sinner ways... no condemnation needed.

It is the sinful ways of mankind that God hates, and never that of the sinner...... God has the ability to look past the sin and into what will be when He is finished with YOU.
.... Seek and HE shall find You!

LoVe,
Rhapsody -

[SeptemberMorn]

I'm with Sky. If you are living together but not married, I seriously doubt that God would be behind anything in your relationship unless you are living according to God's will.

I've asked God for his help in areas in my life where I knew He wasn't exactly happy with what I was doing. I didn't hear back from Him until I fixed what I knew to be wrong in the first place.

[(JD)]

Ok Skittles... I wish you well and good to hear things are some better. Any chance of a marriage in the future???

[southernyankee]

I believe He can see into our hearts and knows us better than anyone. He knows our motives in all we do. I mean no disrespect to anyone beliefs.
Through history marriage beliefs have changed, different cultures have different ceremonies. I have to ask what exactly do you mean by married? Married by man's law in the U.S. of A. I have to admit I don't know the bible real well, but did God state what a marriage is in his eyes. I'm mostly just curious.

being in a committed relationship is good. it totally depends upon you and your bf's perception of it.........i know married people who don't think as seriously as you're doing, about their relationships. they flirt and talk about it and i see you taking this very seriously and seeking answers..........i hope you find the answer that fits you best......xoxoxo pat

[Rhapsody]

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I have to ask what exactly do you mean by married? Married by man's law in the U.S. of A. I have to admit I don't know the bible real well, but did God state what a marriage is in his eyes. I'm mostly just curious.

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Good Question here................. Thanks for asking IT.

The Answer:

Marriages were ordained in GOD's eyes and witnessed by the family.... back in the times of Jesus a marriage would take place when the bride was presented to the groom by her parents - their paper work per say (the signing of a marriage) took place after the two newlyweds consummated their marriage with in the means of sexual bonds (had sexual intercourse) and that is probably why some states still acknowledge the "common law marriage" - a marriage that takes within the heart &amp; body of two people in love and that has no trail of legal paper work.


LoVe,
Rhapsody -

[skittles]

i dont think u need a piece of paper to say that ur married..... my aunt and uncle have been together for 15 years maybe longer and have never gotten that PIECE OF PAPER saying they r married..... but in their hearts they r married ..... so even though a person doesnt have the paper saying that their married doesnt mean they dont see thier selves as married to one another...

[skittles]

an another thing i come on here to find support and seems i got critized because im living with my b/f........ i believe god wants us together or i dont think we would of made it 2 years already......... theres been a few rough times in r relationship but we have always made it thorugh,,.,,,, when we could of called it quits and went r seperate ways...... but no were still together and i think god has something to do with that no matter what anyone says..... i think when we a relationship is going through some rough times its god testing the couple to see if they really belong together and r strong enough to get through the rough times....... if i offened anyone from what i said sorry but i was offened when i got critized for living with my b/f and not being married first

skittles, no one on here is perfect. far from it. not everyone of us who "talks the talk", "walks the walk".........do not take this to heart as you're wounded enough. go forth with your life and take what you can use and DISCARD the rest. no one here is God's spokesperson..............

[Rhapsody]

<font color="purple"> ((((((( HUGS ))))))) ~ ~ ~ ~ ((((((( HUGS ))))))) </font>

Hang in there Skittles........ there are more Christians out there that will not shun you or toss you aside just because you are living with your b/f - there are many of us out there that Love and Live as Christ actual did - with acceptance of all humans (no mater their life style) and with out condemnation..... Christ knew that LoVe with in His walk was the Key to true Salvation - that is why He offered us this thought (more in my words than His -

... it is best to help another with love (honey) than to hate them with judgement (lemons).

LoVe,
Rhapsody -


P.S.
Please know:
That even Christian need time to mature and to truly grow in their walk.... even if they assume they may already be there.

YOU will NEVER be judged my ME - for while I am Saved and living as I feel Christ wants ME to - I still had sin in my own past that needed forgiveness, and I am sure that I will need some forgiveness in the years I have left here on earth..... I am glad that God looks at our hearts (as to judge) and not that of human nature.

[(JD)]

Skittles, no one is condemning you now for living with your bf and I'm sorry if you took it offensively. However please remember that you posted in the spirituality forum and you asked about what others thought God was doing in your life. I only responded what I know God says, please don't get angry, because I tried to give you support with truth.

skittles,

[Juliana]

Hey Skittles. I agree with you. I believe love is a good and beautiful thing. I lived with my former boyfriend for 6 years. We loved each other and were faithful to each other. I never wanted to get married. I never felt that it was wrong and I never felt guilty about it.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and I try to live my life without judging others... so I have always had a problem with people judging me or others. That's just who I am and I don't apologize for it. My personal choice is that I won't get married until I'm ready to have children. I respect everyone else's right to their own opinions and beliefs. I would never try to push my beliefs on another person and I'm intolerant of other people trying to push their's on me. That's just the way I am. Chacun à son goût!

All the best to you and your boyfriend. I'm glad you have found someone you love and who loves you back. That is a wonderful thing for which you don't deserve criticism, IMO.

I would hope that this Spiritual Sanctuary Forum is a place for everyone in the PC community to express their own forms of spirituality -- free from judgment or recrimination. I choose to express my beliefs and opinions as just that -- beliefs and opinions -- not facts.

[Juliana]

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Skittles, no one is condemning you now for living with your bf and I'm sorry if you took it offensively. However please remember that you posted in the spirituality forum and you asked about what others thought God was doing in your life. I only responded what I know God says, please don't get angry, because I tried to give you support with truth.



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Please don't take offence at this. Sometimes tone doesn't come across well in written posts, so I want to make it clear that I'm just asking a question. I'm relatively new here and I'm just wondering if this Forum is only for Christians. Is there room in here for other forms of spirituality? Am I unwelcome in this forum because I'm not a Christian, or is this forum for everyone who has spiritual beliefs?

[January]

Juliana,

This forum is for people of all walks of faith. Everyone is welcome here.

The description of this forum states:

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Jan

[SeptemberMorn]

Skittles, your question was

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could it be??????

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My answer was simply "no."

I answered you, as well as Sky and Rhap, about what GOD would want for you. According to Him, living together is wrong, without benefit of a wedding ceremony where you come before Him and witnesses to declare your love and commitment.

We are NOT critisizing you for living with your boyfriend. I was simply stating that God wouldn't be helping you stay together, at least not at this point.

I don't have any room to talk about "living in sin". I lived with my husband for almost a year before we had a marriage ceremony. What you do with your life is your business. I don't judge you one way or the other.

[Juliana]

Thanks January. I love reading about all forms of spirituality and loved my theology classes in college. I find reading about spirituality fascinating and comforting. I don't fit it with the majority here it seems, so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to offend anyone or rock the boat by expressing my own opinions.

[Juliana]

This is to Skittles (I'm just using quick reply).

I believe that God would want you to be happy. I believe that He is a God of love and I believe that when good things happen in your life, God is behind that. My beliefs differ from some others on here, but I just thought I would share what I believe in answer to your question. I believe that love is good -- whether the people who are in love are married or not. My definition of being good is striving to never do anything to hurt another person and to have kindness and compassion and love in our hearts and actions. Those are the things that give me strength... and I believe that God wants us to be kind and full of love for one another.

I think it's important to look inside your heart and trust your own beliefs and your own relationship with God. None of us can speak for God. Faith is a very personal thing and I believe in trusting one's heart and inner voice. I believe that that's where God speaks to each of us. That's my own version of spirituality.

Juliana, I agree with you!!! xoxoxo pat

[nothemama8]

My hubby and I lived together 11 months before we married, we basiclly married for family and so if anything happened to either of us we have legal papers so we can care for the other appropriatly, we also love each other very much after 31 years we're the only ones that can stand the orther hahahaha

[Juliana]

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LOL! You crack me up. Love's a beautiful thing, isn't it?