Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Oct 15, 2011, 02:20 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
It's insane how so many people think this doesn't happen, the people that do are usually just people that have it happen to them.

Then people tell me that I'm ill because they have believed the lies they have been told or are being controlled by the government.

There are still people being labelled as ill just to try and stop them finding the truth.

From http://www.gangstalkingunited.com/20...ing-redefined/

Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Once a target is flagged a notification is sent out to the community at large, and the target is followed around 24/7 by the various communities that they are in.
The community notifications will go out to various places. Apartment rentals, future employers, stores and communities where the target visits, will be notified. Doctors offices, fire departments, police, etc. A covert investigation might also be opened, and electronic, means used by the civilian spies/snitches as part of the overt and covert monitoring and surveillance process.
Individuals can be flagged designating them as having a history of aggressive or inappropriate behavior. This notification system will follow the target if they move, change jobs, visit other areas. It let’s the community believe that the target is a person who needs to be watched or monitored.

The individual is then placed under overt and covert forms of surveillance. Everywhere the Targeted Individual goes, their name is flagged. In a big city this could mean that thousands upon thousands of people are getting a notification about the target. The person is followed around 24/7. Foot patrols and vehicle patrols are used to follow the Individual around, as part of the monitoring process. During these patrols a one handed sign language is used to assist the citizen informants with communicating to each other. They will use this to silently communicate to any business the target enters, or other areas.

My nurse tells me to stay away from sites like that - but it's all the truth, I think she doesn't want me to find stuff out.

This is happening to so many people and so many people deny it really happens, like the police - because they are involved.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.

advertisement
  #2  
Old Oct 15, 2011, 02:23 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I showed my doctor a police officer in America admitting it did happen, but he still wouldn't believe me, they are trying to convince me I'm wrong.

I have the truth on my side if nothing else and I will prove it eventually.

Everyone needs to open their eyes to this.

There are laws on harassment - but it's ok for the police to target people like me and not follow up to check things I tell them.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
Thanks for this!
alice1993
  #3  
Old Oct 15, 2011, 04:03 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
From http://www.thehiddenevil.com/tactics1.asp

Dr. Kilde says the manual "lists all mind control actions as signs of paranoid schizophrenia," and that "all medical schools teach their students that the person is paranoid, ESPECIALLY if he believes intelligence agencies are behind it all." Finally she proclaims, "Never is the medical profession told that these are routine actions all over the world by intelligence agencies against their targets."

The DSM appears to have been created with a loophole which allows government-sponsored harassment programs to exist. This was evidently done so that people will appear ill when explaining this to a mental health professional. Adding to this confusion, the program itself is designed to mimic mental illness when explained to those "not-in-the-know." Mental health professionals may also participate in this program, wittingly or unwittingly by labeling targets as mentally ill. It is one of several layers of protection used to help keep this program operating in secrecy. It's easy to see how some mental health professionals might "jump to conclusions."

How can so many people be wrong about this it's never going to end
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #4  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 02:42 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
Its the cause of schizophrenia for a lot of people and the money they pay goes towards the gang stalking to keep going which is ironic, but it's true,
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #5  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 07:13 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I always knew they could track people through Walls, that's why the cameras are there and I just read in a book, just how powerful that really is

Im going to keep getting attacked with weapons that can do the same, this is going to be my life as long as they let me live
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #6  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 09:30 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
It was so weird what I saw last night, there was 2 cameras one was there for ages and the other was moving past, it still was an hour later, so it must have stopped for a while outside. It's really advanced that one the red lense must do something. There was another 1 flying past as well, just wish they'd let me get pictures.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #7  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 09:42 AM
costello's Avatar
costello costello is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2010
Location: ???
Posts: 7,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by KUREHA View Post
this is going to be my life as long as they let me live
I'm sorry you're going through this right now and that you're so scared. It must be terrible. I really don't believe this will be how your life is forever. One thing I've learned in life is that the only thing certain is change. The things that worried me when I was your age didn't happen. When I look back, it seems silly that I wasted so much time thinking about them.

Things will get better. Meantime hold your head up and go about the business of your life.

How's school going?
  #8  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 09:42 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I'll get proof I'll show everyone, even though people are trying to stop me all the time, I will get proof.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #9  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 09:46 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
They don't stop until the targets kill themselves, they kill them, they end up in prison or the hospital.

It's constant abuse from them 24/7.

It's going ok but I missed this week, except half a lesson, I'm thinking of not going back, it's not safe to be out so often
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #10  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 10:18 AM
costello's Avatar
costello costello is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2010
Location: ???
Posts: 7,864
It sounds like your fear level is through the roof right now. What can you do to make it a bit better?
  #11  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 10:58 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I'm angry as well.
I'm just trying to watch Toy Story to try and help it isn't so far though.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
Thanks for this!
costello
  #12  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 12:22 PM
Perna's Avatar
Perna Perna is offline
Pandita-in-training
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 27,289
I guess if I were being gang-stalked, I wouldn't let the people stalking me know I knew/cared? I'd act clueless so they'd get bored with me and go away. I'd try to hang around with people I knew well/trusted and act like they do.
__________________
"Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius
  #13  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 02:03 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
They know because they can read my mind. They just keep trying until they break people. They have a lot of new technology that helps. It's unstoppable, I had someone watching me just before.

Someone I was talking to thinks I need a lawyer to help convince my nurse.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #14  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 03:02 PM
Flooded's Avatar
Flooded Flooded is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: May 2011
Location: on the border..
Posts: 1,757
Quote:
Originally Posted by KUREHA View Post
I'll get proof I'll show everyone, even though people are trying to stop me all the time, I will get proof.
I wouldn't mind seeing some proof. My father would agree with everything you've written and I just can believe any government could be bothered
  #15  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 03:39 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I'll post it here when I get it.

Your father knows a lot then, I think its important to know about this.

In a book I was reading they think it goes above the government and that they control a lot of things. It makes a lot of sense.

They do it to a lot of people, they make people bothered by mind control.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #16  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 04:46 PM
Flooded's Avatar
Flooded Flooded is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: May 2011
Location: on the border..
Posts: 1,757
My father has delusions that my mother is still alive (been gone 20yrs), he hears voices coming from his truck radio telling him to stop breathing and believes the man that broke into his house was there to plant a listening device when really, he was highly intoxicated and went into the wrong house.

I know he believes someone is after him but I have never seen any evidence to make me think that is true. He behaviour, delusions and paranoia has reached dangerous levels so I have VERY limited contact with him.
  #17  
Old Oct 16, 2011, 05:45 PM
costello's Avatar
costello costello is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2010
Location: ???
Posts: 7,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by KUREHA View Post
I'm angry as well.
I'm just trying to watch Toy Story to try and help it isn't so far though.
I hope you're feeling better, Kureha. I'm really glad you're trying to find ways to distract yourself and to change your moods. It won't always work, but it's always worth the effort.

Take care and be safe.
  #18  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 08:33 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
Ah right - sorry about your father.
Someone could still be after him though - because they target lots of people.

I felt a bit better this morning - but then I went out - so I'm anxious again. Yeah my doctor always said to try and distract myself - she gave me a sheet with things on to do ages ago.
It was everyone looking at me outside and the cameras in the shops - surveiilance everywhere.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
Thanks for this!
costello
  #19  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 09:44 AM
costello's Avatar
costello costello is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2010
Location: ???
Posts: 7,864
Quote:
Originally Posted by KUREHA View Post
I felt a bit better this morning - but then I went out - so I'm anxious again. Yeah my doctor always said to try and distract myself - she gave me a sheet with things on to do ages ago.
It's good to hear you're feeling somewhat better. I'm glad you're using the distract techniques suggested by your doctor.
  #20  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 09:51 AM
newtus's Avatar
newtus newtus is offline
The Dopamine Flux
 
Member Since: Jun 2010
Location: Ardenweald
Posts: 43,644
I'm not quite sure i'm understanding your full situation KUREHA.

I'm aware gang stalking is real.

...But...
Do you actually believe it's happening to you, or not? I'm just asking because you are following your doctors advice to distract yourself. Not saying that is bad or anything, by i'm assuming you either have a hint into that it's a delusion or you just trust your doctor?

No judging here! I'm just a bit confused, but I have been reading this thread.
  #21  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 11:39 AM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I'm glad you know its real - so many peple dont believe it.

I know its true - I've seen too much to know it can't be anything else.
I just try to distract myself because my ex psychologist said it would help, it doesn't totally work - but it helps take my mind off it a litle bit.
She was the only person that listened to me - so I did what she said.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #22  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 12:23 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
I wonder if the whole dsm is made up, just to cover up the stalking to make people seem ill. I read something about it and it made sense, I'll look for it later.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #23  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 01:10 PM
KUREHA's Avatar
KUREHA KUREHA is offline
MCRmy Forever
 
Member Since: Mar 2008
Location: Hotel Bella Muerte
Posts: 4,297
From http://www.thehiddenevil.com/tactics1.asp

The DSM is a diagnostic manual for identifying mental disorders. The first edition of the DSM was released in 1952 at a time when the APA was under the control of Dr. Ewen Cameron, who would commit brutal government-sponsored torture under the MKULTRA program. Dr. Rauni Leena Kilde, former Chief Medical Officer of Finland, wrote an article entitled, Microwave Mind Control: Modern Torture and Control Mechanisms Eliminating Human Rights and Privacy. In it she described "The Psychiatric Diagnostic Statistical Manual (DSM) for mental disorders," as a "brilliant cover up operation in 18 languages to hide the atrocities of military and intelligence agencies' actions towards their targets."

All of it could just be made - not 1 part of it might be real.
__________________
If giving in is pointless, then get out of bed or this might be the end.
  #24  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 03:08 PM
costello's Avatar
costello costello is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Dec 2010
Location: ???
Posts: 7,864
It all sound pretty scary, but I have a hard time believing that it's even possible to control another person's mind in any meaningful way. I guess advertisers are pretty good at making us eat stuff that's not good for us and buy stuff we don't need. And politicians are sometimes good at whipping us up into a frenzy in which we do things that aren't in our own best interests. But if you want evidence that the technology just isn't there to control people's minds, you only have to look at this forum. One person takes a certain med and swears it's given him his life back. The next person says the same drug put him through a hellish nightmare. We're all so different. How can we be controlled so easily?

Then who is doing this mind control thing? Is it a group? How large a group? How do they come to any concensus? In my experience if there are more than 3 people in a group, they'll have trouble deciding where to go to lunch - let alone formulating a coherent plan for world domination.

I think the DSM is flawed. I think there's too much politics and money in it - and woefully little science. I think the drug companies have too much influence, and they're making tons of money by medicalizing human distress. And I think that it serves as an instrument of social control to the extent that it lets us off the hook from correcting injustices. Mental distress is associated with poverty and social rejection. I honestly wonder how much of mental illness could be cured if we'd all just be kind to one another and treat one another with fairness, justice, and equity.
__________________
"Hear me, my Chiefs! I am tired; my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands I will fight no more forever."--Chief Joseph
  #25  
Old Oct 17, 2011, 10:19 PM
newtus's Avatar
newtus newtus is offline
The Dopamine Flux
 
Member Since: Jun 2010
Location: Ardenweald
Posts: 43,644
I believe it's highly flawed. Not saying everything is made up. A lot of it IS money to begin with.

I read they are going to start using the ICD in 2012 or 2013 or something. Which is what is used globally, while the DSM is used only for American psychiatry I believe is correct.

Not doing away with the DSM, but integrating.
Reply
Views: 4963

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:07 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.