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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:00 PM
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So how did you beat it in the end?
How did I beat sugar? If you willpower through the first few days (weeks?), it gets lots easier. The cravings die down a lot.

Of course, as I said in my other post, I'm off the wagon right now. Here's what happened: I wanted to improve my son's diet. So I started cooking for him. I figured I wasn't going to get him to stop eating sweets, so I started baking chocolate chip cookies. I use really good ingredients. Omega 3 eggs. Grass fed butter. And I sustitute white wheat flour and ground flax seed for some of the flour. And, of course, I add walnuts.

But here's the flaw in my plan. No way I'm baking chocolate chip cookies and not eating some of them myself!
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:02 PM
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How did I beat sugar? If you willpower through the first few days (weeks?), it gets lots easier. The cravings die down a lot.

Of course, as I said in my other post, I'm off the wagon right now. Here's what happened: I wanted to improve my son's diet. So I started cooking for him. I figured I wasn't going to get him to stop eating sweets, so I started baking chocolate chip cookies. I use really good ingredients. Omega 3 eggs. Grass fed butter. And I sustitute white wheat flour and ground flax seed for some of the flour. And, of course, I add walnuts.

But here's the flaw in my plan. No way I'm baking chocolate chip cookies and not eating some of them myself!

Ummmmm so can you be my mum too? THOSE SOUND AMAZING!!!

I have no willpower. (See: I started smoking again.) I have read every book about willpower but it gets lost somewhere in my perpetual exhaustion haze.
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Do you (ideally) cut out all carbs, or just refined ones? I'm curious.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:11 PM
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Also I'd be surprised if pregnancies caused neck pain.
My pain's in my lower back. I think it has to do with pushing a large baby out through my pelvis. Carrying said large baby and paraphenalia around afterward didn't help much either.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:12 PM
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Ummmmm so can you be my mum too? THOSE SOUND AMAZING!!!
They are so frickin' good!

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I have no willpower. (See: I started smoking again.) I have read every book about willpower but it gets lost somewhere in my perpetual exhaustion haze.
My son's smoking again too. It's a tough one to shake. As is sugar.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:18 PM
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Do you (ideally) cut out all carbs, or just refined ones? I'm curious.
Basically it's Atkins. My doctor is Mary Vernon. And if you were a low carber freak you'd know who she is. She was Dr. Atkins' nurse and she finished writing his last book after he died.

i would appreciate an opinion.

She doesn't call it Atkins because it's so stigmatized.

When I was at my best - before I fell off the wagon - I ate lots of meat, eggs, and veggies plus some cheese, cream, butter. No sugar. Virtually no grain.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:19 PM
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My son's smoking again too. It's a tough one to shake. As is sugar.
I've read studies that say up to 90% of people with psychosis smoke. I actually saw reports that the correlation is so strong that medical researchers in Germany are looking to create the next generation of anti-psychotics, which will be based on nicotinoids. Let me go see if I can find in English.

For me though, I think it's that I work in an office where smoking is the norm. Everybody smokes, which then triggers me to "just bum a fag" (and amuse you Americans in the process) once or twice, then buy "just ten", then suddenly I'm back up to 20+ per day.

Man, I feel terrible about myself even writing that.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:22 PM
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Basically it's Atkins. My doctor is Mary Vernon. And if you were a low carber freak you'd know who she is.
I am really quite the opposite of a low-carber!

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She doesn't call it Atkins because it's so stigmatized.
The latest diet craze here is Dukkan -- cause of the infamous Pippa Middleton buttocks -- which is also low-carb. I'm convinced people just re-package the Atkins thing now to make the money without the stigma.

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When I was at my best - before I fell off the wagon - I ate lots of meat, eggs, and veggies plus some cheese, cream, butter. No sugar. Virtually no grain.
This diet actually worries me (for myself). I'm coeliac. I'm also lactose intolerant (even though I'm bad and eat cheesecake). I tried eating meat the other day and it made me feel so ill, but I'm not sure if that's a real thing of it's just from about ten years of not eating meat.
I just . . . don't know what I'd eat if I didn't eat carbs.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:23 PM
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Nobody really fails to notice bleeding from their coot. And if they did fail, I'm sure everybody around them would notice
When I was pregnant, I was visiting with a woman in my midwife's waiting room. She said that with her previous pregnancy she had a miscarriage in between. I mean she got pregnant, saw a doctor to have it verified, then a few months in sat down on the toilet and expelled a bunch of blood. Then she apparently got pregnant again immediately, because as far as her doctor was concerned, she was mistaken and hadn't had a miscarriage at all. All signs were that she was pregnant, so she must be wrong.

I'm not sure how he explained away the 13 month pregnancy, but he must have been right. After all he was the one with the medical degree - not her.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:29 PM
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When I was pregnant, I was visiting with a woman in my midwife's waiting room. She said that with her previous pregnancy she had a miscarriage in between. I mean she got pregnant, saw a doctor to have it verified, then a few months in sat down on the toilet and expelled a bunch of blood. Then she apparently got pregnant again immediately, because as far as her doctor was concerned, she was mistaken and hadn't had a miscarriage at all. All signs were that she was pregnant, so she must be wrong.

I'm not sure how he explained away the 13 month pregnancy, but he must have been right. After all he was the one with the medical degree - not her.
Augh. Stories like this make me so angry. Just the arrogance of that!
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:32 PM
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I am really quite the opposite of a low-carber!
Yeah, you've mentioned your diet before. I'd be diabetic in no time eating the way you do.

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The latest diet craze here is Dukkan -- cause of the infamous Pippa Middleton buttocks -- which is also low-carb. I'm convinced people just re-package the Atkins thing now to make the money without the stigma.
Dukan is way too high in protein IMO. Protein needs are usually in a narrow range. It's carbs and fat you can play with. If you want to eat very low carb, you need to raise the fat levels IMO.

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This diet actually worries me (for myself). I'm coeliac. I'm also lactose intolerant (even though I'm bad and eat cheesecake). I tried eating meat the other day and it made me feel so ill, but I'm not sure if that's a real thing of it's just from about ten years of not eating meat.
I just . . . don't know what I'd eat if I didn't eat carbs.
I was vegan before I started low carbing. I found it nauseating at first to eat meat I have to admit. But the previous diet was going to kill me.

Low carb diets vary a lot. Even what people define as low carb varies. Some say under 30 g of carbs per day. Others allow 100 or more. And everything in between.

I used to be active on a forum for people eating low carb diets of various stripes. It's interesting, but honestly some of those people have some serious food issues IMO. There are some who are grain-free and dairy-free. At some point you've eliminated so many food groups, there's not much left to choose from.
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Old Jun 11, 2012, 04:38 PM
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Yeah, you've mentioned your diet before. I'd be diabetic in no time eating the way you do.
I can't say I won't be down the road. I'm very young. Also, I run a hell of a lot, so I probably stand carbs better than most people.

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Dukan is way too high in protein IMO. Protein needs are usually in a narrow range. It's carbs and fat you can play with. If you want to eat very low carb, you need to raise the fat levels IMO.
I've never really looked at it -- actually rejected it immediately because of the trendiness of it.

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I was vegan before I started low carbing. I found it nauseating at first to eat meat I have to admit. But the previous diet was going to kill me.
I'm still not convinced I want to live. And if I'm going to go, death by cheesecake sounds pretty damn good.

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Low carb diets vary a lot. Even what people define as low carb varies. Some say under 30 g of carbs per day. Others allow 100 or more. And everything in between.
Do you suggest that book you mentioned above for a beginner? Or is this something I can sort on my own? I tend to hate diet books and I never cook from recipes.

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I used to be active on a forum for people eating low carb diets of various stripes. It's interesting, but honestly some of those people have some serious food issues IMO. There are some who are grain-free and dairy-free. At some point you've eliminated so many food groups, there's not much left to choose from.
I can easily tip into disordered eating, either bingeing or not eating at all.
I do know somebody who eats only fruit "willingly offered by the tree". He also works in derivatives trading. I strongly suspect there is cocaine involved in that scenario somewhere.
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Oh, and I know you mentioned fats like cheese, butter and cream -- what about things like olive oil? Are those OK in your low-carb diet?
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I can't say I won't be down the road. I'm very young. Also, I run a hell of a lot, so I probably stand carbs better than most people.
Lots of running would definitely make a difference.

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I didn't look at it either, but it was discussed extensively on the forum. I tried doing a lower fat version of Atkins after looking at Loren Cordain's paleo diet. Cordain's interested in the diet we were evolved to eat. He says that paleolithic people didn't eat the kind of fatty meats we eat. Our domesticated animals are far fattier that wild game. So I tried eating lower fat meats for just a couple days. I was so hungry! I went on a binge on day three or four. And interestingly it was carbs I was craving. When I heard Dukan was high protein, I just knew it wasn't good.

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I'm still not convinced I want to live. And if I'm going to go, death by cheesecake sounds pretty damn good.
I have to admit I've had the same thought. Unfortunately I'd be so fat by the time it actually killed me...

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It's ok. There are so many popular low carb diets, and I own lots of the books. There are always tons of them on the free day at the end of the library sale.

Atkins has basically two books: Dr. Atkins' Diet Revolution from, I think, 1972 and Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution from 2001. The diets are slightly different. Some people swear by one or the other.

There are a number of other popular low carb diets. They basically come down to the same thing with various tweeks and quirks. I don't know that I could pick one over the others to recommend. I think of myself as following Atkins. That's sort of my home port.

South Beach - maybe a bit higher in grains I think

Protein Power

Carbohydrate Addict's Diet (CAD) - I think they allow one carb binge a day but they may have taken that out of later editions, this is the low carb diet Oprah tried and it didn't work for her - not surprising that falling face first into a bowl of mac and cheese once a day will spike the old insulin levels

Schwarzbein Principle - she's really into adrenal fatigue as well as low carb, she has you eliminate caffeine (Atkins does too, but I ignore that part, harder to ignore with Schwarzbein)

Some of the paleolithic diets are popular in the low carb world, but there was a huge break fairly recently with the paleo folks disavowing low carb.

Intermittent fasting is popular because you get the effect of lowering insulin levels.

I love Gary Taubes's Good Calories, Bad Calories (my copy was in my car when it went into the lake ), but it's a challenging read and it isn't a diet book. It explains the science, and it's a great book. He followed GCBC up with a popular book, Why We Get Fat : And What To Do About It, but I hate that book and can't recommend it. Taubes's article What If It's All Been a Big Fat Lie touch off the more recent low carb diet craze in 2002. It's pretty good, but not a diet book: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/ma...g-fat-lie.html

Taubes has some very good lectures online. I don't have time to track them down now. The man is very, very smart. He's worth listening to. But the lectures are generally over an hour long.

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It can happen easily.
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Oh, and I know you mentioned fats like cheese, butter and cream -- what about things like olive oil? Are those OK in your low-carb diet?
Olive oil - yes!
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Olive oil - yes!
Oh, praise be! My "salty" craving is always vegetables in olive oil, salt and some kind of herb (or garlic). I love it, best salad ever.
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I have to admit I've had the same thought. Unfortunately I'd be so fat by the time it actually killed me...
Then you could make a ton of money by appearing on those faux-documentaries they make about the super-morbidly obese, then go on The Biggest Loser and win the millions. It's the American dream, if I understand correctly.

I worry that I obsess about my diet and my weight because I was made fat on the drugs. It scares me, how obsessed I get.

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South Beach - maybe a bit higher in grains I think
I tried the South Beach diet, actually -- when I was fat. It did nothing, but I was on the drugs at the time and this I would have noticed neither health effects nor weight loss. I remember there being quite a bit of grain, actually. Certainly not less grain than I would normally eat.

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Carbohydrate Addict's Diet (CAD)
This appeals to me in name only. CAD!!!

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Schwarzbein Principle - she's really into adrenal fatigue as well as low carb, she has you eliminate caffeine (Atkins does too, but I ignore that part, harder to ignore with Schwarzbein)
Why do they say to limit caffeine? That is a step I'm unwilling to take. My entire social life revolves around the consumption of caffeinated beverages. (Oh, and my professional success depends on it.)

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Some of the paleolithic diets are popular in the low carb world, but there was a huge break fairly recently with the paleo folks disavowing low carb.
Do you do this? I have to say it appeals to me, but I'm not sure if that's because it's a fad. It's especially a fad on the minimalist/simple living blogs I follow and that makes me suspicious. But there is something very intuitively appealing about it.

Somehow I get the feeling bacon is not involved :'( I did love bacon.

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Intermittent fasting is popular because you get the effect of lowering insulin levels.
Yes, this fasting really appeals to me, but again I have very little willpower. Do you try it?

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I love Gary Taubes's Good Calories, Bad Calories (my copy was in my car when it went into the lake ), but it's a challenging read and it isn't a diet book. It explains the science, and it's a great book.
I'll look him up, thanks. I always like science more than I like enthusiastic bantering about how great everything can be and how much better I will feel and how tasty everything is and how I'll **** diamond dust and piss unicorn tears if I eat just so.
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Oops! I guess we hijacked your thread, sorry.
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..i was happy to see over 40 responses. but then none were for me...

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Newtus, I'll see if I can't look up some of that stuff for you. I'm not a doctor or anything, but I am apparently a master at google.

I'm going to be getting some blood work myself after I see the neurologist tomorrow to see what my EEG said. My psychiatrist wrote down a huge list of levels we could check for psychosis. Like...things to check to see if what I have is physical instead of mental. I also has a CT scan on my head done at the ER when I went in, to rule out sudden brain issues (I was presenting with loss of speech...when really I was just...very slow to respond, I became convinced my brain was dying). That's when they pulled the whole 'welp, nothing showed up on the CT, so to the psych hospital you go!' But...yeah, legally they couldn't -make- me, and there weren't any beds free anyway, so luckily I went home with my mom. Who has been trained to be a psych hospital tech, so...there wasn't much difference besides me being more comfortable/feeling safer at home with her while I waited a day before being rushed into my psychs office and put back on anti-psychotics.

So...basically we're treating 'as if' I have schizophrenia, due to my symptoms, but we're also currently testing for a bunch of other stuff, which I think is what doctors are -supposed- to do, since a lot of physical stuff can cause psychosis, from what I've read.

And there I go, typing a huge thing again when really I meant to say 'yes, they should totally check for stuff'. xD;
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he actually wasnt checking for things causing psychosis. ive been through that a long time ago before.

he was checking to make sure i didnt do drugs. he sent me through a drug urine screen and i told him seroquel almost gave me diabetes so he did lab work for that but i just caught that CO2 stuff by myself.

seriously. thank you but im done here. im done caring for myself. i went off my meds. if i have a mental problem and im not helping myself im not gonna go get help for anything like diabetes. i just dont care about myself or my life. i just dont. im not planning on committing suicide but if i die from diabetes so be it. im in a lot of physical pain right now and its prob that. costellos story about her aunt or somehing pretty much is how mine goes. plus more.
im not committing suicide unless you say letting myself die from a sickness is suicide since i DO plan for that.

its just all games this world.my life. ill nver be taken seriously ill always be ignored. it doesnt matter what i do my life is going to be not only te same for now but its getting worse.

i doubt anyone here can relate to me. i have no insurance anymore. im headed down a homeless path that is largely outt of my control. i cant work on or off meds so i just stay off.

i just sick of trying to care. its time i go down the rabbit hole for good. idc anymore guys...sorry...

my time on this forum is coming closer and closer to a close. i have not much to say anymore and theres nothing for me here.
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I did respond to you, newtus.
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thank you but im done here. im done caring for myself. i went off my meds.
I'll miss you, newtus. You're a good soul. But IMO you never even started caring for yourself. Not even close.
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My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

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