Roll Call 69

What's different to the stalking part? You were obviously convinced you were being stalked just like you are convinced your neighbours are going to harm you. Yet nothing came of the stalking.

Of course we want you to be safe but I think the problem is, I'm sure even you can admit, you can't realistically tell whether or not what is happening is real.

The problem is you make connections where there may well be none. All you know is you neighbours are being loud on a regular basis. Beyond that there is no reason to think they are after you.

I understand you have been stable on your meds but it's almost a certainty that even on meds, symptoms can get worse.

I really think you should call your p-doc or even go to the hospital if you can't wait. You need someone who can give another perspective on what is happening in person...

I know all of this is scary, I know it's all happening to you but lots of us have been in similar situations that turned out not to be real. As you say, you've had this happen with the stalking thing too...

We're just looking out for you...

Hmm.. at least it will give you some time to think about a better solution. The priority is to feel safe tonight. How about that?

I know. But if you ever had a group of people pound on your living space for 45 minutes you'd be convinced they meant you harm. I'm trying to stop connecting the dots but it's hard not to when you hear what they're saying outside your window.

Actually, just popped into my head but I've had that before. I lived in a shared accommodation with a house manager who blamed us for hacking into the security cameras and projecting images on his walls at night... nutjob basically. We woke up on a number of occasions to hammering at about 3 or 4 am. I was freaked out yes, but I didn't believe anyone was going to harm me. More of a WTF moment than anything else... mildly irritated and all that. I think you might be overreacting. I've been there and it's important not to catastrophize in these situations.

Anyway, we waited a couple of weeks to see if things would settle and get less mental, they didn't so we saved the cash for a while and moved elsewhere.

You say they've been doing this for ages, they would have done something really bad by now if they were going to.

They've only started targeting me since last Saturday.

It's their loud music that's been going on for five years.

Intro to Psychology (101) in this subterm then Intro to Christian Thought (Theology 104) in the d subterm . I'm excited

IMHO i would stay somewhere else for a few nights like a hotel. Someplace not shoddy but reasonable and then come back and see if it still happens. If it does, consider moving elsewhere.

Well, yes, I've considered staying at a motel or the hospital. Then I'd have to come back here.

I appreciate what everyone is saying. Thank you all very much.

I do want to move, but I can't manage that so quickly. And what if they found out where, etc. The only way I can be sure they won't follow me is if I go straight to the airport. At least they wouldn't follow the plane.

I doubt theyd follow you but i think they are truly harrassing you and you dont have to put up with that.

Right, the part that really interests me here is that they are talking outside your window.

What floor do you live on? You do realise they'd have to be standing right outside your window for you to hear them, and that's with your window open & you near it.

Have you seen them standing outside your window talking? Even if they were there but you couldn't see them, why would they go outside by your window to talk about you? Surely they'd just hatch their plans in their flat or whatever.

Honestly, just think about all that for a moment.

Thank you, youre the only person who believes me.



Second floor. When they want me to hear something they speak loudly. Otherwise I can't hear what they're saying, only their tone of voice.

The reason i believe angelique is because this same exact thing happened to me in 2010 or so.

Apartments are different from houses. Youre cramped up in a room with many other people living in the same building. You dont know whos living in that building. You dont know their motives and intentions. They could be in a gang or out to harrass people for fun and this happens most often where college kids stay. Like college towns. Because they think its funny/fun. People could be on drugs and doing this.

Do you know what these people look like? Maybe how old they are?

Everyones writing her off like shes not on meds. I DONT agree with taking off to the airport. I dont think thatll help anything because this sort of thing could just happen elsewhere (you could get harrassed again etc). I do think if youre very scared you just need a temporary place to stay or call the police. If youre hearing the same things at a hotel/motel i would worry its symptoms.

Yes, I know them. But it seemed like they were recruiting friends I don't know to do whatever they planned so that they couldn't be arrested because I wouldn't know who their friends are. If you know what i mean.

I'm so scared I can't think straight. I don't want to lose all my stuff. If they break in that will happen, probably, and if I leave here forever that's what will happen.

I called the landlord earlier and told him I think they're going to break in tonight and pleaded with him to help. I can't really call the police until something concrete happens.

Meds aren't 100% and I believe she was having breakthrough symptoms on the generic abilify just like I was.....it might not be working as well.

For me my symptoms are knocking so to me it sounds like symptoms.....the knocking changes based on location and doesn't happen outside so it's really hard to differentiate from reality unless you use a tape recorder or a second person.

Just like you're basing this on your experiences I'm basing it on mine....I'm certainly not writing her off so much as trying to help but it's based on my own perspective and experiences....

Have you seen them standing outside your window talking? Do you know for certainty it is them...

It's not enough that you recognize their voices... I've heard my parents talking about me, when only 1 of them was in the next room. Or heard people I know talking about killing me, only for no-one to be out in the corridor.

I'm not saying your neighbours aren't being a nuisance, or even perhaps doing some of it on purpose but I really don't think they are out to harm you the way you think.

the apartment building i lived in before i moved sounds similar to angelique's.... and then someone was murdered not that far from my front door. and it was his neighbor that did it. but, i also know that angelique has suffered from delusions and paranoia and voices before. so its hard for me to really tell whats going on. but, i want angelique to be safe and not feel scared anymore. i dont know a solution but i am listening/reading angelique and i am sorry this is going on

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Exactly.

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No, I can't see directly below my windows. I know you think it's symptoms, but it isn't. I never heard conversations or sentences before. I'm quite sure it's all real. Thank you, and everyone, for trying to help.

I understand. Sorry i seem defensive.
I dont know the full story.
Although if shes being harrassed I think she should call the police, if anything.

Sorry, again.

I'm not going to say anything more than I hope you stay safe...

Just lock your windows, your door & keep your phone near. I honestly think you'll be safe to get some rest though.

I really think you need to see some sort of mental health professional soon so they can make a judgement about whether they think you are having a relapse. (they'll probably know from other signs only they can see in person or ask about)

If nothing else, it'll get you out the house away from the torment for a while...

PS ...

Just because you haven't heard sentences or conversations before doesn't mean it isn't possible. This time around I had tactile hallucinations which I'd never had before. Like happening every single night for over a month...

I think you should stay away until you feel safe. I don't want anything to happen to you.

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It's ok I just wanted to make it clear we are all trying to help in our own way...

group was good... we talked about sex . not liek raunchy stuff,... like how we feel about sex. we were looking at a list of needs humans have and T asked if we had any thoughts about them. i said i feel as if i dont have or want a need for sex, sexual expression, etc. i felt ok talking about it until this lady straight up asked me if ive ever had an orgasm... (?????????????????) i said yeah but really i wanted to say UM WTF? super weird. other than that group was good. i met with T after. we played cards and just had mostly light talk.