[OliverB]

I doesn't matter if they are good or bad, or neutral.

[Sometimes psychotic]

I have spirit animals----two big cats, a white tiger and a black jaguar then a giant swan and a unipeg-----when I was sick I was training to be a peacock shaman and these were my guides. Even though I've recovered I still ask them for help from time to time.

[21stCenturySM]

Five....

[21stCenturySM]

9 is the bad one. And zubox sends me info from the universe. Five5 is my protector.

[junkDNA]

i dont understand

I don't understand either,
I don't think I have any "special creatures" but I do have a connection to rabbits

Lizards are pretty special to me. I'm afraid of turtles though.

Originally Posted by Nocter

I doesn't matter if they are good or bad, or neutral.

I don't tend to call animals, creatures.

[OliverB]

Creatures, spirits,... from this World, from another, from all togheter... for those who don't understand, maybe it's because you don't have one. I am sorry

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

I have spirit animals----two big cats, a white tiger and a black jaguar then a giant swan and a unipeg-----when I was sick I was training to be a peacock shaman and these were my guides. Even though I've recovered I still ask them for help from time to time.

I have one ferret from wonderand called polecat and a artctic fox called Nev that's not from Wonderland but from the other side. I aks nev too for help, the young and original, old nev with a lab coat is with me when I am nervous in college.

Originally Posted by Nocter

Creatures, spirits,... from this World, from another, from all togheter... for those who don't understand, maybe it's because you don't have one. I am sorry


I have one ferret from wonderand called polecat and a artctic fox called Nev that's not from Wonderland but from the other side. I aks nev too for help, the young and original, old nev with a lab coat is with me when I am nervous in college.

I don't have one, true. But many people on this site including myself, and especially since this is in fact a schizophrenia forum, can not afford to have these creatures, because it could be a trip to a mental hospital, cause a relapse, wreak havoc on families and friends. Do you understand that?

[21stCenturySM]

Originally Posted by Materly

I don't have one, true. But many people on this site including myself, and especially since this is in fact a schizophrenia forum, can not afford to have these creatures, because it could be a trip to a mental hospital, cause a relapse, wreak havoc on families and friends. Do you understand that?

My T is well aware of what I see and hear. She believes it is an outlet for self actualization. Most schizophrenics hear voices and see things. Just because you have help from your entities or creatures or whatever you want to call them doesn't mean you are automatically back in the hospital.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Materly

I don't have one, true. But many people on this site including myself, and especially since this is in fact a schizophrenia forum, can not afford to have these creatures, because it could be a trip to a mental hospital, cause a relapse, wreak havoc on families and friends. Do you understand that?

I don't understand what kind of problem you have against me. I am just sharing because It's my way to cope with it.

Here you are not inpatient for having creatures or entities, you are only if you are dangerous to yourself or others. My psychiatrist knows it, so what do I do?

Do I stop posting because you clearly don't like me because I can be with the other world and wonderland without hurting myself or others?

If I take meds I still have them, so for me taking meds in not an option, they never work. It's coping with them or being institutionalized, do you understand that?

I am happy some of you find meds that stop your voices or creatures or whatever you have, but I don't.

I have been living with these psychosis since 12, I got used, I learn to deal with some of the stuff, I try to don't act crazy to avoid long term hospitalization, I don't take meds because they don't work for me, most did nothing but some of them made me worse. I have taken almost all atypcals and many typicals. Right now I am almost non-pschotic and functioning better. But in the past I ended up IP because of the crazyness.

What one of the best psychiatrist I had told me 'find the way to function with it or you will end up having ETC,
and I don't want that for someone young like you, or worst,, institutionalized if it doesn't work.'

I don't have family or friends, nobody would take care of me, that's why I try to keep thinking positive and doing things even if it is extremely hard because of the other world, wonderland, the parallele and entities and everything. I can't rest, I would end up in hospital, I have to keep and keep and keep and keep doing and doing and doing.
For me it would me much easier to take a pill and have less symptoms, but it doesn't work like that for me. It's seems what's wrong in my brain is not chemistry but neural pathway and you can't fix that with meds.

Originally Posted by 21stCenturySM

My T is well aware of what I see and hear. She believes it is an outlet for self actualization. Most schizophrenics hear voices and see things. Just because you have help from your entities or creatures or whatever you want to call them doesn't mean you are automatically back in the hospital.

Not everyone is created equal, that's why there is diagnostic criteria, and different classifications in MI. DXs are linked to symptoms, to prognosis, to treatment plans, etc.

Originally Posted by Nocter

I don't understand what kind of problem you have against me. I am just sharing because It's my way to cope with it.

Here you are not inpatient for having creatures or entities, you are only if you are dangerous to yourself or others. My psychiatrist knows it, so what do I do?

Do I stop posting because you clearly don't like me because I can be with the other world and wonderland without hurting myself or others?

If I take meds I still have them, so for me taking meds in not an option, they never work. It's coping with them or being institutionalized, do you understand that?

I am happy some of you find meds that stop your voices or creatures or whatever you have, but I don't.

I have been living with these psychosis since 12, I got used, I learn to deal with some of the stuff, I try to don't act crazy to avoid long term hospitalization, I don't take meds because they don't work for me, most did nothing but some of them made me worse. I have taken almost all atypcals and many typicals. Right now I am almost non-pschotic and functioning better. But in the past I ended up IP because of the crazyness.

What one of the best psychiatrist I had told me 'find the way to function with it or you will end up having ETC,
and I don't want that for someone young like you, or worst,, institutionalized if it doesn't work.'

I don't have family or friends, nobody would take care of me, that's why I try to keep thinking positive and doing things even if it is extremely hard because of the other world, wonderland, the parallele and entities and everything. I can't rest, I would end up in hospital, I have to keep and keep and keep and keep doing and doing and doing.
For me it would me much easier to take a pill and have less symptoms, but it doesn't work like that for me. It's seems what's wrong in my brain is not chemistry but neural pathway and you can't fix that with meds.

But it is not a level playing field. That is why you can experience delusions, and have an artistic license, in terms of your pursuit of them, I can not ; that would mean I would end up in hospital.

Why do you believe that is? honestly tell me. You will have one prognosis, while I will have another. Do you understand why that is?

Also I do not have an issue with sharing, but that is not exactly the case here, reread the heading of your thread

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Materly

I don't tend to call animals, creatures.

Creatures is much broader...for example my unicorn/Pegasus isn't really exactly an animal.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Materly

But it is not a level playing field. That is why you can experience delusions, and have an artistic license, in terms of your pursuit of them, I can not ; that would mean I would end up in hospital.

Why do you believe that is? honestly tell me. You will have one prognosis, while I will have another. Do you understand why that is?

I don't have an artistic license and I am sorry you end up in hospital every time you experience a delusion, I don't every time I do, but once I did when I tried to kill myself because of a delusion that was out of control.
I try to live with them without ending up in hospital as it happened before and meds didn't avoid that.

Because we all are different, each person has a different prognosis, mine is not good -I am at a day hospital-, but I am not in danger. I don't know what your is, but does it matter to post here?

It seems you assume I am perfect and telling other people to stop taking meds or I don't know. I call them special creatures because if I see them as special they cause me less anxiety and I cope better with it. I am sorry if you don't like how I cope in a healthy way instead of cutting myself or taking 1000mg of dextromethoprphan as they are telling me to do to fully join them.

Originally Posted by Nocter

I don't have an artistic license and I am sorry you end up in hospital every time you experience a delusion, I don't every time I do, but once I did when I tried to kill myself because of a delusion that was out of control.
I try to live with them without ending up in hospital as it happened before and meds didn't avoid that.

Because we all are different, each person has a different prognosis, mine is not good -I am at a day hospital-, but I am not in danger. I don't know what your is, but does it matter to post here?

It seems you assume I am perfect and telling other people to stop taking meds or I don't know. I call them special creatures because if I see them as special they cause me less anxiety and I cope better with it. I am sorry if you don't like how I cope in a healthy way instead of cutting myself or taking 1000mg of dextromethoprphan as they are telling me to do to fully join them.

I don't end up in hospital after I experience a delusion, but if I don't reject it or if I feed it. Then they become progressive , and yes , will lead to a relapse.

[Sometimes psychotic]

Originally Posted by Nocter

Creatures, spirits,... from this World, from another, from all togheter... for those who don't understand, maybe it's because you don't have one. I am sorry


I have one ferret from wonderand called polecat and a artctic fox called Nev that's not from Wonderland but from the other side. I aks nev too for help, the young and original, old nev with a lab coat is with me when I am nervous in college.

You know one of the things that helped me recover was finding a framework for these animal spirits. Since I was training to be a shaman in my mind I learned shamanism from a few videos to interact with these spirits on my own terms....that way they are always there for you to call on but they don't just come to you unless you're becoming psychotic. It's like a guided imagery....so you are in control of what's happening to some extent.....in this world of animal spirits there are three levels an upper lower and middle world....all are neutral....it is not like one is good or evil which sets the tone for all your encounters. Once my animals were part of this framework it was no longer considered psychotic but instead spirituality. If you like the idea of this Sandra ingerman teaches shamanism through books and videos.

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

Creatures is much broader...for example my unicorn/Pegasus isn't really exactly an animal.

Semantics , If I choose to talk about fictional fantastical characters/forces/etc , I would use the term creature.

[OliverB]

Originally Posted by Materly

I don't end up in hospital after I experience a delusion, but if I don't reject it or if I feed it. Then they become progressive , and yes , will lead to a relapse.

I don't feed it, I just try to understand them to the point they join me and I am funcional with them, so they stop being delusions like what happened with Nev.

This.

Originally Posted by Sometimes psychotic

You know one of the things that helped me recover was finding a framework for these animal spirits. Since I was training to be a shaman in my mind I learned shamanism from a few videos to interact with these spirits on my own terms....that way they are always there for you to call on but they don't just come to you unless you're becoming psychotic. It's like a guided imagery....so you are in control of what's happening to some extent.....in this world of animal spirits there are three levels an upper lower and middle world....all are neutral....it is not like one is good or evil which sets the tone for all your encounters. Once my animals were part of this framework it was no longer considered psychotic but instead spirituality. If you like the idea of this Sandra ingerman teaches shamanism through books and videos.

Thank you, this is what I want for me since meds don't help me enough. Since medication don't help, I want to learn to coexist with my entities and others and be functional. It may take years but I wanna make it. I have gained a lot of insight in these 8 years, now I know if I am telling to kill myself it's a lie and I don't have to follow it.