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This is not a good analogy. While 99% of people are not born into the 1% by wealth, they have a theoretical opportunity to attain it (Steve Jobs and the like, without checking his actual placement as per the moment of death but you get the point, American dream etc. etc.). Homosexuals are a substantial minority of people at such a severe disadvantage as to never be able to achieve normal sexual expression (normal to them, per their orientation) if they are not allowed to be with other homosexuals. They cannot attain anything. So if you try to use your analogy, it would be better to compare homosexuals with people who are wheel-chair-bound from birth. Those people can never attain health and mobility of able-bodied people. But we try to do something as a society to bridge the gap between the level of mobility of wheel-chair-bound and able-bodied people - we have ramps, we have accessible restrooms and other facilities, we have ADA in US, etc. - we try to bridge the gap to the extent possible. Well, if you think that being born a homosexual is some sort of an unfortunate anomaly allowed by the creator, fine, I have no problem with that, but then society should intervene and try to do the same vis-a-vis homosexuals as it does vis-a-vis the physically handicapped - give them equal rights to bridge the gap.
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It is write IN THE BIBLE that acts will NOT get you into heaven. Only asking Jesus into your heart will get you into heaven. Nobody is perfect.and never will be. Everyone sins. You are suppose to try to avoid sin. But it is impossible to succeed. You will sin no matter what. Even evil thoughts are a sin. God still loves you, regardless |
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"Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself." - Saint Frances de Sales |
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"Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself." - Saint Frances de Sales |
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from findlaw.com:
For example, in some states sexual relations with someone less than 12 or 14 years old constitutes a first degree felony, while sex with someone older but still below the age of consent, might be a misdemeanor or lower level felony. In other states, any act of statutory rape constitutes a felony, with serious and sometimes mandatory jail sentences resulting. |
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And I have said nothing negative of homosexuals themselves. Anyway the whole detective situation seems odd to me.
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"Have patience with all things, but, first of all with yourself." - Saint Frances de Sales Last edited by NoCake; Feb 12, 2013 at 07:50 PM. |
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GirlOfManyFaces, were you given a lawyer or not?
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Well, it is a very simple problem with a very straightforward solution that does not cost any money, unlike remedial programs, SSI, and shelters. Just stop calling homosexuality bad names and accept it for what it is - an innocent variation of humanity. Interestingly enough, if you apply this solution, then the "bad luck" situation more or less evaporates into thin air. The whole problem disappears. No more need to compensate for anything. And regarding actions: no, people do not choose sexual orientation so there is no action implicated in orientation. I have been well advised of the many benefits of the lesbian lifestyle but I just cannot force myself into something that seems so foreign and weird to me. The reverse is probably equally true. Sure, there are some flexible people in the middle who can vacillate between the poles of orientation as they go through their lives, but for the rest of us it is just a feature that we come with. And you cannot change it - you can dye your hair but not force-change orientation. So actions are irrelevant. What precedes actions is choice. In order to complete an action, you need to be able to choose it in the first place. You just cannot accomplish it with the orientation - there is no choice. Which brings us back to the issue of fairness - it is unfair to fault someone for having a harmless feature that he or she cannot disable or modify/alter. |
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![]() ![]() All I know is, he did something that wasn't aloud and didn't get punished. I was punished. Which I really don't understand.... |
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No. They wouldn't let us charge him. And MY law person, who is supposed to be on my side, told me he didn't want to charge the 17 year old. So the law person (I'm not sure what to call him) LIED!!!! And told my mom that it wasn't rape. When it CLEARLY was! I still have nightmares of the two times it happened....
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I have no idea what you two are talking about, nor do I understand how this pertains to either of my situations. I'm just confused. |
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You are OK, do not worry about it. You said that you would be disowned if someone in the position of authority found out about your lesbian leanings. Well, it is unfair to fault you, especially to the point of disowning you, for something that is a) harmless and b) outside of your control. That is how it pertained to your OP.
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My parents DID get involved. It that just made it more hell. And it really is my fault. I could have prevent this whole thing and didn't. |
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What could have you done to prevent the whole thing save for disappearing from the face of this Earth? He raped you. You did not rape yourself. You did not make him rape you.
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One of the definitions of rape is "any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person".
You cannot prevent other people from forcing something on you - it is their action that forces you. |
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Should black cats be fed as much as Maine Coons? Should homosexuals have equal rights to marriage as heterosexuals? Those are questions that different people would have different answers to and we can agree or disagree till the cows come home, but we cannot disagree with the existence of black cats or homosexuals. |
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Honey, no offense meant here, but you've got a lot of growing up, experiences, learning, etc. to understand the magnitude of this brewing convo between the two...Which in general is the solution to the original question here. You are young and have so much time ahead of you to learn who you are, what you believe, and so on. Please take care of yourself and for gods sake slow down in life. You are trying to move way too fast.
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I'm not sure where you're getting this from or why you are taking this opinion so seriously. I have said nothing to offend you or any other homosexual. I have not labeled you or judged you in any shape form or fashion. My religion disagrees with homosexuality. I do not hold ill will towards any. All I ask is that you respect my opinion as I respect yours. I am not here for debate. I am only here to help a friend.
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As far as the legal issue that is rolling around here, I am not sure why the person that represented the OP is not termed "lawyer", although I don't know what country the OP lives in. Usually RAPE=RAPE. Maybe because it happened twice ( with the same BF), then the thoughts of pressing charges changed. It's all very confusing .Good luck to the OP. You are young and wonderful and you have plenty of time to figure things out. Breathe. No one is moving to Mars. It's OK. |
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As much as I love hearing everyone's opinion. I really don't care for arguments. And would very much appreciate it if you would move this conversation to a PM. I don't mean to be rude. It's just stressing me out more... |
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What does OP stand for? I'm in the US by the way. Thank you for caring enough to say anything. It means a lot. |
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