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Old Jun 19, 2013, 11:25 PM
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At 17 it may be difficult to stop. I remember for me the desire for sex peaked around 18. I had to have it, was practically all I could think about.

If you feel wrong about self pleasure then maybe try limiting your opportunity for it. Get rid of any erotica magazine, DVD, and block x rated sites. Make a congnitive effort to avoid things that provoke you. Some medication have reduced sexual desire as a common side effect. Not sure if you are wanting to be that drastic.

Personally I don't find anything wrong with having a few knuckle babies if I have little bit of free time and the idea suites me. I mean your not hurting anyone. It is being done privately. (well it should, and if not that is something different). There are health benifiets to having an orgasm. A lot of people do it. No one really admits it, but I would say almost every adult has done it at least once.

Some people make it out to be dirty or shameful, but is it really any worse than sex?
well you see, i have a porn habit too and the minute someone tells me that porn is alright i start to indulge in it right then and there. And i even talked to a counselor at my school. He even admitted that he used to have a lot of friends who watched a lot of porn. I was like does porn and masturbation kill your brain cells? He's like,"nope."

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Old Jun 19, 2013, 11:42 PM
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Porn is just fantasy. That's all it is. It feeds into your fantasies and you can watch your fantasies be acted out. Porn isn't real because it is unrealistic to how relationships work. That's why people are so negative towards porn, because people think that you should focus more on real relationships than just watching porn.

I've been watching porn since I was 16 and I don't have a problem with it.
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Old Jun 19, 2013, 11:44 PM
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Porn is just fantasy. That's all it is. It feeds into your fantasies and you can watch your fantasies be acted out. Porn isn't real because it is unrealistic to how relationships work. That's why people are so negative towards porn, because people think that you should focus more on real relationships than just watching porn.

I've been watching porn since I was 16 and I don't have a problem with it.
You mean you still do it? It seems like us porn watchers have a hard time making friends. people seem to know.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 12:54 AM
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Watching porn and having friends have absolutely no correlation.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 01:06 AM
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Watching porn and having friends have absolutely no correlation.
I'm just paranoid.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 08:24 AM
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I think the biggest issue with porn is that it objectifies women and gives an unrealistic view on what sex is. You don't have to watch porn to masturbate. Lots of people can just do it without the extra stimulation.

Watch porn doesn't have much to do with making friends. No one can smell it on you or would care. I think they would care more if you took a bath this morning than if you watch porn last night. Although calling a girl a slut and expecting her to have sex with you most likely happen.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 09:30 AM
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I agree, sometimes when I watch it I realize, damn, that's a horrible way to treat a girl, why would she want to be subjected to that, yet it still gets me off. As a girl, I don't think, "oh yes, I wish he'd do that to me." Because my fetish is femdom and I like to envision the guy being in the girl's position and I usually masturbate with the femdom role reversal after watching certain porn.

I wonder if maybe my fetish is due to watching porn, because you start off with basic porn and then eventually you start looking up weird porn and then it gets weirder and weirder. But I still don't have a problem with it, it just helps me explore my sexuality.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 10:24 AM
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I don't have a problem with porn whatsoever. Yes, it objectifies women. It also objectifies men. However, if I were to say I've never been out in public looking and admiring guy's asses or arms from a distance, I'd be lying. I did that even before ever looking at porn. People naturally objectify the sex they are attracted to at some level. Porn doesn't cause the objectification; the objectification in porn is a result of what already exists in humanity.

There is a serious problem with the lack of porn for women. I'm a woman and I quickly discovered that I hate most porn that has a woman in it at all for that reason. I much prefer gay porn.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 10:26 AM
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I went through the gay porn phase but realized that the majority of the men can't take a **** like a woman can. I've never seen "rough" gay porn, it's all very gentle and it's hard to stumble upon gay deepthroating, dp or many of the positions that women do.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 10:53 AM
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I have to say the vagina is about the most resilient thing in the world. It can take a lickin' and keep on tickin'. The male equilivelent is more delicate and sensitive. I get hit in the groin and I have to cancel my plans for the next hour and take a break. I have sex for an hour and look at her in sheer amazment that she can keep going.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 10:54 AM
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I went through the gay porn phase but realized that the majority of the men can't take a **** like a woman can. I've never seen "rough" gay porn, it's all very gentle and it's hard to stumble upon gay deepthroating, dp or many of the positions that women do.
Hahaha I don't know where you found your porn, but I have no problem finding very rough gay porn or deepthroating.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 10:57 AM
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I'm not gay, but I found out I have no gag reflex and that kind of disturbs me.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:05 PM
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I think the biggest issue with porn is that it objectifies women and gives an unrealistic view on what sex is. You don't have to watch porn to masturbate. Lots of people can just do it without the extra stimulation.

Watch porn doesn't have much to do with making friends. No one can smell it on you or would care. I think they would care more if you took a bath this morning than if you watch porn last night. Although calling a girl a slut and expecting her to have sex with you most likely happen.
but can't they tell by examining your eyes? for some reason, dark circles form around my eyes after I'm on the computer for too long.
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I'm not gay, but I found out I have no gag reflex and that kind of disturbs me.
what's a gag reflex?
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:10 PM
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I don't have a problem with porn whatsoever. Yes, it objectifies women. It also objectifies men. However, if I were to say I've never been out in public looking and admiring guy's asses or arms from a distance, I'd be lying. I did that even before ever looking at porn. People naturally objectify the sex they are attracted to at some level. Porn doesn't cause the objectification; the objectification in porn is a result of what already exists in humanity.

There is a serious problem with the lack of porn for women. I'm a woman and I quickly discovered that I hate most porn that has a woman in it at all for that reason. I much prefer gay porn.
without looking at a person's face, I cannot objectify them. If I just see a person's *** which i have not really looked at in public, I would be like darn, i don't really get much pleasure out of it since I can't see the face. in the same way, when I'm looking at porn, if I only see a guy's behind, I would be like seriously just cut straight to his face. i want to admire the face more than anything.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:11 PM
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but can't they tell by examining your eyes? for some reason, dark circles form around my eyes after I'm on the computer for too long.
Dark circle around the eyes is usually related to sleep deprivation. Lots of reasons for that. Staying up to late playing call of duty for example, or whatever keep you up at night.

I don't know how much porn you watch, but if it is in the hours a day range, then maybe cut back a bit and live some. Personally I just need ten minutes and then I am ready for a nap. That is just me though. If you feel you have a problem with it, there are sex therapist you could talk to. Theu deal with this kind of thing a lot and they can help you determine how much it is affecting your life.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:13 PM
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Dark circle around the eyes is usually related to sleep deprivation. Lots of reasons for that. Staying up to late playing call of duty for example, or whatever keep you up at night.

I don't know how much porn you watch, but if it is in the hours a day range, then maybe cut back a bit and live some. Personally I just need ten minutes and then I am ready for a nap. That is just me though. If you feel you have a problem with it, there are sex therapist you could talk to. Theu deal with this kind of thing a lot and they can help you determine how much it is affecting your life.
I usually watch porn til i ejaculate. once i ejaculate i go what the hell am i doing? this is so disgusting. why do i feel that way? it's like someone's holding me captive and then when the right moment arrives for me to be set free, I just start running away.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:27 PM
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I first heard about masturbation at the age of 12 when my younger friends told me what it was and i was like eww that's weird.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:28 PM
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Cant seem to stop the urge sometimes. I feel like getting rid of it right away but I also don't want to ejaculate. doesn't holding back fluid cause prostate cancer or is it the other way around?
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I usually watch porn til i ejaculate. once i ejaculate i go what the hell am i doing? this is so disgusting. why do i feel that way? it's like someone's holding me captive and then when the right moment arrives for me to be set free, I just start running away.
The whole point of masturbating is having an orgasm in my opinion. Otherwise it is like baking a cake and then throwing it in the toilet. It was a lot of work for nothing.

The thing holding you captive is 17 year old hormones. Your body is full of testosterone and it is an evolutionary urge to procreate. We live in a civilised societity and so can't just go up to a mate and start having sex. The next best thing is to satsify the urge with masturbation. From a biological standpoint.

From a cognitive standpoint, orgasms feel really good, don't have many drawbacks and you can have one pretty much whenever you want.

The thing that may make you feel disgusted is bot being comfortable with yourself, influences in your life telling you it is wrong, or being caught doing it and being embarrassed.

Or the possibility of sexual abuse. That is a whole other bag of worms though, and if that is the case I would urge you to seek some help in dealing with those issues. Sexual abuse can create all kinds of internal conflicts and cause a lot of confusion.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:34 PM
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Cant seem to stop the urge sometimes. I feel like getting rid of it right away but I also don't want to ejaculate. doesn't holding back fluid cause prostate cancer or is it the other way around?

Not taking care of yourself can cause vasocongestion (slang term is blue balls). It can be painful and really sucks. It goes away in a few hours as the body drains the excess fluid.

I remember reading articles that said orgasms reduce the chance of prostate cancer. A.small bonus I guess.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 06:37 PM
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I like to view porn, I am obviously female. My H and I watch together, or I watch alone. Due to circumstances it does nothing for me, but it is nice to see nice female friendly guy and girl porn. Where the people act like they love each other.

I talked to the T about this today. And she said, sure watch it, go ahead. Watch it together or alone, there is a lot to be learned. It is a problem when porn takes the place of opportunities to go out, it is more important then taking care of your needs, in place of work or getting groceries or if it consumes your every waking moment. I really didn't expect the T to say go for it.

I have a super sensitive gag reflex. Every time I go to the dentist I know he knows what I do not do.
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 07:21 PM
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I'm clearly not as good as Adam K when it comes to advice giving, but I try to tell things like it is.

Maybe it's because I began sexual exploration at an early age, but you seem to be way too old to be just beginning to figure things out. At 17 most guys have already had sex, and yet you are feel guilty and are almost afraid to even touch yourself. You don't allow yourself the freedom to enjoy masturbating or watching porn and for reasons you haven't clarified, you punish yourself when you do enjoy yourself. You act like you are the only person who does this, but the truth is most guys masturbate and watch porn on a daily basis and it is considered normal behavior. Your problem is not an addiction, it's purely an irrational fear of being abnormal. Once you realize that you are just like everybody else who masturbates, you won't feel so alienated.
Thanks for this!
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 07:37 PM
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Risperdal, Topomax, and Geodon killed my sex drive entirely and completely.

Some people report problems from Prozac but all the reactions to individual medications are idiosyncratic and unpredictable.
Add Celexa to the mix!!! Completely killed it! Was good when I was getting a divorce(didn't want to go there with him, again, but yeah...)
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Old Jun 20, 2013, 07:45 PM
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There was a male discussing that these meds kill the drive and have other effects. On PC. Maybe, men don't want to discuss that aspect, the way women tend to be open about it??

I believe the original question was age? 12

How often, in and out of relationships, enough to know being on a med that kills my drive isn't what I want in life.

If the goal of masturbation, is to have an orgasm.....

well...then...now you know.

Once told a male friend, who um, was having troubles with his love life, that unless a woman knows how to please herself, how can she be a better lover? ((his loss not wanting to meet me, after 3-6 years of knowing each other via email friendship))

Thought my T was going to go through the roof, when I told him the side effect to Celexa, "Thought you said you didn't have a boyfriend" ((I don't right now...doctor ))

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Also, is it common for medication to interfere with a woman's sex drive? Is there specific medication that causes this? Does it affect women at specific ages? I don't hear guys talking about this much and I'm rather ignorant over certain matters of female sexuality. That's why being here is so interesting

It's interesting that all the contributions have been from females so far, are women more open than guys on here or are there just more of you?
Either way thanks for all the replies so far.
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