At what age is it weird to be a virgin (for guys)?

Hello, all:

I noticed that there is a thread about what age
it becomes weird to be a virgin for girls, so I
wish to ask the same question about boys/guys.

If you are over 18 and a virgin, I don't want to even date you.

I feel obligated to "explain myself", so here goes. Being a male virgin is completely than being a female virgin, and it's viewed extremely negatively. When I think of a male virgin, I think of Michael Cera in almost every movie he's ever played: socially-awkward, has never been in a relationship, doesn't know how to act around girls, has no sex drive. I want to date someone who knows what they are doing and is past the awkward high school stage.

I think if after the college years if your still a virgin it might seem awkward. By then a natural male is not only not a virgin but has even experimented with gay sex and is ready to meet any challenge

Don't listen to me I'm hardly politically correct lol.

Actually I think people would be quite surprised how many guys have experimented with each other at the high-school/college age. A lot of "straight" guys receiving oral from "gay" guys.

It's only natural to be curious. Men who are secure with their sexuality won't be embarrassed or ashamed to admit this. Your right, even before HS for some too. I can honestly say I know for sure I'm str8

Not really. I'm secure in my sexuality but have no interest in want to give another man a BJ. Why is it often assumed that if a man has no interest in wanting to participate in homosexual acts he's either a homophobe or insecure?

Why is it you automatically consider giving a BJ is what we were talking about?

No where did any one claim all guys are like that btw, just that it's perfectly natural.

And to answer your last question, because usually that is the case. Note the word "usually".

So according to you, if a man doesn't want to participate in sexual acts with another man he's insecure and/or homophobic?

How about a gay man who refuses to have sex with women. Is he insecure about his homosexuality?

Reading is fundamental. That is not what I said. I was talking about guys who have experimented. Of those, which ones? The ones that have, only those who are secure in their sexuality will admit they have experimented. That does not mean if you say you have not that you are lying.

So relax unless there is some thing else you'd like to get off your chest lol.

Relax guys, nobody on this forum is giving anyone bj's. Try not to be too disappointed.

If I am not mistaken, Indie said *even* some guys have engaged in gay sex, emphasizing that it is perfectly natural to do so. Not all, but some.

drats it's getting harder and harder to get a bj these days! lol

None. Because virginity doesn't exist. It's a religious concept. You don't lose anything. You just gain experience in something. It doesn't make you any more or any less of a man regardless of what society thinks.

There are plenty of atheists who believe in virginity. And we are talking in regards to what society believes. There are individuals who think differently, but the majority believes X, Y, and Z in what virginity means.

2.2 billion people can think the sky is red. Doesn't make it red.

Ah, misunderstood. Thought we were talking in general.

Isn't what 2.2 billion think be considered "in general" and a personal opinion be considered as an individual?

Furthermore, virginity cannot be considered "in general" because there are so many conflicting views in regards to it

You're misunderstanding me now, and I honestly have no idea what you're even trying to argue at this point. By "in general" I was explaining that I misunderstood the context of the thread when I gave my answer. When I first replied I thought it was just being asked, "What age is it weird to be a virgin (for guys)" and not, "What age does society view it as weird" which are actually two different topics.

I'll be taking my leave now as to not divert this topic any further.

I am not sure whether it is a religious concept per se - I do not know the origin of it which should be traced in order to determine if it is religious.

It is very true though that the concept of "losing" virginity is extremely weird, which is probably one reason it is not being used by people who actually study the sexual behaviors of adolescents and young adults.

the term used in epidemiology is "sexual debut", and it is a beautiful term in that it is - well, to put it simply, it is CORRECT. You are not losing anything but you are starting your sexual career, so it is a debut. Plus, once you stop talking about virginity, all the confusion about what qualifies as losing one's virginity (what organs go into what orifices and all that stuff) becomes irrelevant.

Finally, a sexual debut is a gender-neutral term. When guys talk about being a virgin, it is, admittedly, a little weird - or even more than a little weird. This is probably due to the religious connotation, so maybe indeed you are right that it is a religious concept... Virgin Mary sounds fine because our ears are used to that word expression, but, say, Virgin Jesus would sound a little odd .

I'll be turning 21 in a month and I've never so much as kissed a girl and I don't find that weird in the slightest.

This is part of that weird double standard between men and women. If a girl sleeps around, she's a slut (I assume I can use that word here). If a man sleeps around he's a stud.

So if a girl is a virgin over some age, it's a good thing. If a boy is a virgin over a certain age, then something's wrong with him.

Just more societal judgment. Just do it when you're ready and with the right person and don't worry about what other people think about it.

I read a Manga comic once that said men become wizzards if they are virgins at age 30 So there's an upside to being a late bloomer for guys atleast!

Uhm, I have no idea when its weird, probably because I dont pay much attention to what is deemed normal by society...

I agree with Webgoji, do it when you're ready (for men and women.)
End of story.

I honestly think this thread is very triggering. Many people here have talked about relationship problems and their problems with virginity (on this specific sub forum). People come here for support. It doesn't really seem like this is supportive. More like the opposite. Very judgmental and unhelpful.

To be honest, I found this very triggering as I was a virgin through out high school and was often picked on for it. So, you know, thanks.

While that double standard does still definitely exist, it seems to be evening out...when I was in my early 20's (I'm a girl by the way) I was turned down for even a first date because I made the mistake of admitting I was a virgin. The guy didn't want to deal with having to erm...."break me in". I feel like that's becoming a more and more common thought. That doesn't help guys that are older virgins, unfortunately, but it seems that being a girl and a virgin makes you unattractive as well. Also, no one has made me feel special or shown interest in me because I'm a virgin. So, I'm not sure it's a "good thing" anymore. I don't feel like it is at least...I'm afraid to admit it to someone...especially if they were once interested in me (which doesn't really happen, but still).

Anyway, the attitude is no matter what gender you are, being a virgin is a hassle to the other person. I have no idea how I personally will lose it now, knowing that it'll just be a hassle and nuisance to the other person.

I kind of feel that if you're over 18 (maybe even younger) and still a virgin that society thinks you're a freak male or female (I don't agree, but I feel like that's the attitude.

In general, I hope that the society would move away from any kind of standard wrt virginity - not just away from the double standard that differentiates based on gender (although, per TheEnd's post, this double standard is going away already), but ANY kind of standard.