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Old Feb 19, 2014, 12:12 AM
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Okay... So my lady and I haven't had sex for 13 days. Right now she has a kidney infection, so it wouldn't be a good idea anyway. I've made it known that if I'm not in the mood, I would still "help" her in other ways that would satiate her. Anyway, she told me if she isn't getting anything, I'm not either. That's fine by me, however, she does NOT allow me to masterbate. She has a No Masterbation rule over me, but at the same, she won't "give me a hand"... To be honest I don't have a big sex drive, but this is frustrating to me, and somehow doesn't seem fair.... What do I do?

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I have a question for you. Why do you think religions and philosophies like Christianity and Buddhism ban or restrict masturbation?

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Old Feb 19, 2014, 02:12 AM
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I have a question for you. Why do you think religions and philosophies like Christianity and Buddhism ban or restrict masturbation?
Christianity does not restrict masturbation as far as I know.
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Old Feb 19, 2014, 10:46 AM
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Christianity does not restrict masturbation as far as I know.

It does restrict it. What do you know about Christianity?

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Old Feb 19, 2014, 11:02 AM
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Christianity does not restrict masturbation as far as I know.
Well, Onan would spill his seed on the ground to not give his brother a son. It was seen as wicked and he was put to death by God. Then later on it's about if a man spills his seed he has to immediately bathe and will still be unclean until evening. These are often interpreted as masturbation being a sin.

Buddhism says to avoid it because it can develop attachment. Buddhism doesn't have "sins", but things that cause attachment should be avoided ... thus the reason most monks and nuns won't preside over a wedding.

But I tend to fall into the mindset of "the poison must be purged".
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Old Feb 19, 2014, 12:53 PM
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It does restrict it. What do you know about Christianity?

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Only arguably, and like many things in the Bible it has a bit of leeway for interpretation.

The sin of Onan can be interpreted in two different ways. The first, as Weboji pointed out, is that the sin is the spilling of his seed upon the ground.

The other view, which is my standpoint, is that Onan's sin wasn't the spilling of his seed but the failure of Onan to uphold the levirate marriage that was custom for the time, and mandated per Deuteronomy. Onan failed in his obligation to the law, which is the sin rather than the masturbation. And as far as being unclean, there are a number of things that result in uncleanliness per Judaic law, such as menstruation or childbirth. It's not exclusive to masturbation, and doesn't, necessarily, denote sin.

Buddhism doesn't outright ban masturbation. The third of the Five Precepts only forbids "sexual misconduct," which is quite open to interpretation, to say the least. Surely you'll grant that there is a significant difference between a man (or woman) who masturbates once a day versus someone who does so to the point of excess? If the point of Buddhism is Enlightenment and Nirvana, what is to prevent a person who has a normal sexual appetite who masturbates from walking along that path? There are stricter regulations for monks and nuns and also for certain sects, but there is no strict prohibition against it for the average Buddhist layperson.
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Old Feb 19, 2014, 01:03 PM
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Only arguably, and like many things in the Bible it has a bit of leeway for interpretation.

The sin of Onan can be interpreted in two different ways. The first, as Weboji pointed out, is that the sin is the spilling of his seed upon the ground.

The other view, which is my standpoint, is that Onan's sin wasn't the spilling of his seed but the failure of Onan to uphold the levirate marriage that was custom for the time, and mandated per Deuteronomy. Onan failed in his obligation to the law, which is the sin rather than the masturbation. And as far as being unclean, there are a number of things that result in uncleanliness per Judaic law, such as menstruation or childbirth. It's not exclusive to masturbation, and doesn't, necessarily, denote sin.

Buddhism doesn't outright ban masturbation. The third of the Five Precepts only forbids "sexual misconduct," which is quite open to interpretation, to say the least. Surely you'll grant that there is a significant difference between a man (or woman) who masturbates once a day versus someone who does so to the point of excess? If the point of Buddhism is Enlightenment and Nirvana, what is to prevent a person who has a normal sexual appetite who masturbates from walking along that path? There are stricter regulations for monks and nuns and also for certain sects, but there is no strict prohibition against it for the average Buddhist layperson.
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Old Feb 19, 2014, 01:17 PM
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Thank you. My mom loaned me her old world religions textbook from college when I was rather young...8 or 9, I think?

She never got it back.
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This is getting interesting...
I can try to please myself for hours, but nothing works. I can try just about every form of self-stimulation that you can think up, but I can't get a decent relief from anything. Not even with my girlfriend watching, which gets her worked up. She'll even go as far as helping me try to get off, but I just can't. I'll try really hard, and even go really fast if I have to, but I can't get off hardly at all. Then, on top of this, I'll have random orgasms, and I won't even be in a sexually-stimulated status. I can be at school, and all of a sudden, I'm biting my lip, leaning my head back, trying to hold back a super loud moan. It's ridiculous! No one knows why, but my therapist has said that it might be something that I need to go see a sex therapist for.
I hope that her kidney infection gets better soon so that you can get back to doing what you two do best
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Old Feb 19, 2014, 01:48 PM
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This is getting interesting...
I can try to please myself for hours, but nothing works. I can try just about every form of self-stimulation that you can think up, but I can't get a decent relief from anything. Not even with my girlfriend watching, which gets her worked up. She'll even go as far as helping me try to get off, but I just can't. I'll try really hard, and even go really fast if I have to, but I can't get off hardly at all. Then, on top of this, I'll have random orgasms, and I won't even be in a sexually-stimulated status. I can be at school, and all of a sudden, I'm biting my lip, leaning my head back, trying to hold back a super loud moan. It's ridiculous! No one knows why, but my therapist has said that it might be something that I need to go see a sex therapist for.
I hope that her kidney infection gets better soon so that you can get back to doing what you two do best
I read about a medication that can cause random orgasms ... what was it ..? Found it, clomipramine, also known as Anafranil. Are you taking that for depression?
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Old Feb 27, 2014, 02:32 PM
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I read about a medication that can cause random orgasms ... what was it ..? Found it, clomipramine, also known as Anafranil. Are you taking that for depression?
I'm not on anything for my depression, because my therapist says that if I take anything, it's going to screw with another of my problems (i.e. Asperger's Syndrome, ADHD)
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