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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:10 AM
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It sounds like you just got ripped off. I don't think the virginity had anything to do with it...just a grab and run on her part. Nothing on you.
I agree. Paid sex should be like any other business, regulated and with transparency (think BBB, Yelp, etc.). Of course clients would be reluctant to post reviews of prostitutes, for the same reason for which mental health providers garner far fewer Yelp reviews than do gardeners and hairdressers, but maybe some anonymized version of Yelp for sex work would do. I know that Nevada brothel websites post client testimonials, but with first names only, and nobody knows what happened in reality. It should be as transparent as Amazon, Etsy, and Ebay, with public percentages of client satisfaction. But it is not, which is why you got ripped off. Repeating - illegality and lack of transparency and accountability are breeding grounds for shady practices and yes, you are likely to lose money because of all the users of this shady system, you are the most naive, so no wonder you got ripped off.

you could really benefit from CBT, because the way you think of cause and effect - thanks Harley for catching - is a classic example of cognitive distortion. A textbook example, really. I mean, really - a hopeful first time customer enters a grey market having no insider knowledge or connections, on the one hand, and displaying higher than average anxiety, on the other hand. An unscrupulous seller quickly recognizes the high anxiety of her bidder and determines that this one will be especially easy to game.

In this scenario, the odds of your being ripped off are, roughly, 95%.

So you get ripped off but disregard the fact that getting ripped off was almost a certainty and say that your virginity caused it. It is almost a little grandiose to think so, because you think of your personal parameters causing the events that in reality were caused by the operation of market forces. The only virginity that raised the likelihood of your getting ripped off is the lack of experience hiring hookers. I am sure that had you had 5 gfs in the past, you would still have gotten ripped off because as a hooker customer, you would have been as much as a naive virgin as you are now.

your next step is to say that bad things happen only to you. It is like saying that only you do not win lotteries. Another cognitive distortion.

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I agree with Sophiesmom that a courtesan would be preferable for you. Or a geisha. But not a hooker. I just don't know where you could procure one safely.

speaking of Craigslist, in or around 2008 a prostitute placing ads in san Francisco was murdered. The response should have been to decriminalize, legalize, and regulate. Instead, Craigslist promised to I stitute tighter controls, rolled eyes.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:20 AM
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One I paid and she never showed up. The other I emailed and told her I was a virgin and wanted intercourse. She told me no. I'm looking for no strings attached, but they all want experienced guys. Thus I'm looking for anything to get practice, but it may be as close as I get to sex.
Wait. Wait. Wait. I skipped this one. You paid and she did not show up. So how did you pay her? PayPal? I hope she cannot draw more money out of your PayPal account. Hopefully PayPal has some protection in place, unlike Target... but still, what possessed you to prepay a prostitute in a state where prostitution is illegal? Leave no traces and the only money that doesn't smell is cash.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:23 AM
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I suggest you take a break from considering buying either a doll or sex, and read "The Tropic of Cancer."
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:25 AM
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Tropic of Cancer: Henry Miller, Anais Nin, Karl Shapiro: 9780802131782: Amazon.com: Books and you can get a good audiobook.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:39 AM
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Wait. Wait. Wait. I skipped this one. You paid and she did not show up. So how did you pay her? PayPal? I hope she cannot draw more money out of your PayPal account. Hopefully PayPal has some protection in place, unlike Target... but still, what possessed you to prepay a prostitute in a state where prostitution is illegal? Leave no traces and the only money that doesn't smell is cash.
No, I used Western Union to send money to her agency. Cover the tracks, if asked, just say it's for a friend.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:13 AM
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Did you ever think about going to see a Sex surrogate
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:50 AM
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Did you ever think about going to see a Sex surrogate
Wow, what a great idea. Expensive, but far better results

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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:51 AM
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Thanks for giving me a link to an adult website with a naked woman on the cover?
...holy Hell, I looked at it.

Doc, go back and look at it! It's not a woman! It's one of the dolls!
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 07:55 AM
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If you're wealthy then these sexual surrogates/ Real dolls might be option. If not then your best bet is to find another escort and this time do not tell her you're a virgin.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:11 PM
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And dont send money to western union. That is always a ripoff. Thats why they told you to say it was for a friend. If you had told western union it was for a hooker, western union would have told you it was a ripoff. I really doubt you would have been arrested for soliciting, but thats what the scammer was depending on you being worried about. Have you thought about joining a church and meeting a nice girl?
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:28 PM
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Sex will come a lot easier if it's not the main thing on your mind.

I know you said you're upset that you're still a virgin and that's obviously and understandably going to weigh heavily on your conscience, but would not rather aim for a relationship where you can be happy with somebody and have sex?

You're still young and there are plenty of people out there that are most likely in the same kind of position. I just wouldn't want to be thinking about sex constantly. Sure it might make you feel achieved to finally have popped the cherry so to speak, but is that really going to make you happy in the long run if it's just a fling?
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 12:38 PM
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...holy Hell, I looked at it.

Doc, go back and look at it! It's not a woman! It's one of the dolls!
I know it was a doll...but it's still an adult website and not something that should be shared on PC (because there are many many minors on this website who use Sexual and Gender Issues).
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 01:15 PM
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Part of me thinks that sex with blow up dolls is very creepy (and no it will not mean that you have lost your virginity any more than masturbating does) and just downright wrong, I can't see anyone being that desperate.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 01:43 PM
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I can't see anyone being that desperate.
Well, considering the OP is asking about buying a blow-up doll...

Might wanna be careful what you're saying...
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 01:44 PM
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Well, considering the OP is asking about buying a blow-up doll...

Might wanna be careful what you're saying...
I'm not trying to be offensive I am just saying there are other options (like I mentioned earlier going to see a sex surrogate).
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I'm not trying to be offensive I am just saying there are other options (like I mentioned earlier going to see a sex surrogate).
You think blow up dolls are creepy but see nothing wrong in paying a woman to sell her body to you to make you feel more like a man?
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:01 PM
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One I paid and she never showed up. The other I emailed and told her I was a virgin and wanted intercourse. She told me no. I'm looking for no strings attached, but they all want experienced guys. Thus I'm looking for anything to get practice, but it may be as close as I get to sex.
I work with escorts and porn stars arranging bookings etc and unless you're making an international booking, a lady will never ask for cash before arrival! I am surprised you were turned away for being a virgin....I've never come across this in the 4 yrs working in the industry.

Anyway, good luck!
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:03 PM
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And plus believe me, none of these women care how experienced you are! Just sounds like you have been unlucky or looking in the wrong places!
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:18 PM
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I work with escorts and porn stars arranging bookings etc and unless you're making an international booking, a lady will never ask for cash before arrival! I am surprised you were turned away for being a virgin....I've never come across this in the 4 yrs working in the industry.

Anyway, good luck!
If anything, they prefer a virgin because he's likely to be thought of as 1. Less dangerous and perhaps a nervy type of man 2. Won't have an STD.

And most escorts do not want STD's and get themselves checked regularly.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:18 PM
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You think blow up dolls are creepy but see nothing wrong in paying a woman to sell her body to you to make you feel more like a man?
Sex Surrogates are not the same as prostitutes though.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:21 PM
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I don't think it's creepy for a man to pay for sex. I see it as no different then paying for any other service like a haircut.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:21 PM
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If anything, they prefer a virgin because he's likely to be thought of as 1. Less dangerous and perhaps a nervy type of man 2. Won't have an STD.

And most escorts do not want STD's and get themselves checked regularly.
Yes this is true! Which is why I am surprised he was turned away for being a virgin.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:23 PM
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I don't think it's creepy for a man to pay for sex. I see it as no different then paying for any other service like a haircut.
No it's not creepy at all! Sometimes ppl just want sex without having to go to the trouble of meeting someone etc. Its just a bit of fun. I have dealt with many clients and many escorts and porn star escorts and they are just every day ppl that enjoy sex!
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:27 PM
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I don't think it's creepy for a man to pay for sex. I see it as no different then paying for any other service like a haircut.
I don't see why it's illegal.

As soon as there's an active and recording video camera there it's suddenly legal, and the actors earn money from their recording.

Paying a man or a woman to provide you sexual favours is no different than treating yourself to a chocolate bar at the local shop in my eyes. It's something that's obviously going to make you happy, and why should anybody else care what (or who) you spend your money on?

Just another idiotic social law that has found itself unwritten over time in the book of other idiotic social laws.
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Old Mar 02, 2014, 02:29 PM
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I don't see why it's illegal.

As soon as there's an active and recording video camera there it's suddenly legal, and the actors earn money from their recording.

Paying a man or a woman to provide you sexual favours is no different than treating yourself to a chocolate bar at the local shop in my eyes. It's something that's obviously going to make you happy, and why should anybody else care what (or who) you spend your money on?

Just another idiotic social law that has found itself unwritten over time in the book of other idiotic social laws.
Agreed.....
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