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Old Jan 13, 2016, 11:14 AM
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Any ideas for that?

Basically what I need is something to make me a bit "hyped" up to be able to get out of bed.

Coffee won't work because I would first have to get up from bed to get coffee.
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 02:28 PM
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Maybe start a hobby you can't wait to get up and work on?
Set a firm time to get up no matter how you sleep, it will become a habit after a month or so. If you take meds, try to get up and take them the same time every day.
Get into online research or blogs. (Writing or reading)
Try to get up to see the sunrise! No one ever regrets that!

Just a few suggestions
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
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Keep the curtains open, set a clock radio or player to lively music. Turn on a bright light.
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 06:27 PM
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Take cold shower or splash cold water on face
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 06:29 PM
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i think what IrisBloom said best thing, i usually wake up/stay awake for certain things i like to do, i would feel sleepy and bored, even angry if i had no reason to be active
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
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Keep the curtains open, set a clock radio or player to lively music. Turn on a bright light.

Set a clock radio at a place where you need to get out of bed for and put its volume high enough so you are forced to get out of bed to turn it off.
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Old Jan 13, 2016, 09:31 PM
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Get an actual commitment your expected to be at like volunteer work.

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Old Jan 14, 2016, 02:50 AM
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Maybe start a hobby you can't wait to get up and work on?
Set a firm time to get up no matter how you sleep, it will become a habit after a month or so. If you take meds, try to get up and take them the same time every day.
Get into online research or blogs. (Writing or reading)
Try to get up to see the sunrise! No one ever regrets that!

Just a few suggestions
Sorry but none of the above works. I have to have something that gets me out of bed so any suggestions that require me to be out of bed first to do them, will not work.

Hobby etc won't work to consistently hype me up.

Even having my phone with me in bed (to read stuff on it on sites I really like reading) won't work.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 02:51 AM
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Keep the curtains open, set a clock radio or player to lively music. Turn on a bright light.
Thanks but none of those work.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 02:52 AM
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Set a clock radio at a place where you need to get out of bed for and put its volume high enough so you are forced to get out of bed to turn it off.
Unfortunately I can just fall asleep again.. I will goto right back to bed and sleep again.. or not even get up and ignore the sound. Yeah I'm a good sleeper
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 02:53 AM
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Get an actual commitment your expected to be at like volunteer work.
That's something I was considering because that sort of stuff does help me get up.

But until I can find something like that... hmmm.

Any ideas for over the counter pills???
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 11:49 AM
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Everyone's different, I think, and what works for me might even seem counterintuitive but after a lifetime of setting multiple loud alarms to bully myself into waking up, instead I use my phone alarm along with this gentle start-up it has coming from zero volume very slowly into full audio, like over a 5 minute period. This way I'm not mad about waking up, and it's not even the experience of waking up so much as slowly realizing at some point that I'm already awake.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 01:13 PM
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Just go with it and sleep on....zzzzzz
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 01:46 PM
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If you are serious about this, you need to set your mind to do it. Set a loud alarm clock or clock radio across the room at full volume. I guarantee you will get up to turn it off! And don't get back into bed. lol
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 04:47 PM
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Thanks for the ideas. I already tried the alarm going for long and it did not hype me up enough.

While I deal with the alarm it just doesn't make me alert enough. It's incredibly easy for me to fall back into sleepy mode.

I'm still interested in some OTC pill that can be taken that could increase alertness...? I could have that in bed with me so I don't need to get up to take it.
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Old Jan 14, 2016, 04:56 PM
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The fear of ending up homeless
and having to live out in the cold, mean
streets motivates me right well ...

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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:50 AM
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The fear of ending up homeless
and having to live out in the cold, mean
streets motivates me right well ...

When I work, it's remote work. I don't have to get up early for that.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 02:51 PM
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I used to linger in bed like 14 hours per day. When I finally got out of bed, I would always have a headache from sleeping for too long but having it all be low quality sleep.

I just forbid myself to go back to sleep after my eyes open. I'm NOT ALLOWED. I guess pretend I'm in the military and there will be disciplinary action if I don't get up?
It's the same as establishing any other routine. It took discipline the first few times, but once it became a habit, it became automatic.

Also helps to have someone to report to for accountability. Pick a person and you have to tell this person every time you successfully or unsuccessfully dragged yourself out of bed.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 05:50 PM
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I used to linger in bed like 14 hours per day. When I finally got out of bed, I would always have a headache from sleeping for too long but having it all be low quality sleep.

I just forbid myself to go back to sleep after my eyes open. I'm NOT ALLOWED. I guess pretend I'm in the military and there will be disciplinary action if I don't get up?
It's the same as establishing any other routine. It took discipline the first few times, but once it became a habit, it became automatic.

Also helps to have someone to report to for accountability. Pick a person and you have to tell this person every time you successfully or unsuccessfully dragged yourself out of bed.
Lol, you have strong imagination - I unfortunately don't...

Also it does not seem to be the same as any other routine. I don't have a problem maintaining other routines. This one, about my sleep cycle, I once managed it for a couple months before I fell apart.

I can't really pick any such person, I hardly meet anyone IRL and online it doesn't really matter.

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Hmm, so no such pills/similar tricks exist? (I didn't yet find anything when searching)
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 06:00 PM
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There are drugs but none of them are legal. Not just amphetamines but things kids take for studying. Not a good idea - are you planning to take them all your life?
I like sleeping too, and also work from home. What worked for me was getting a pet I love. Who needs to be fed and looked after. And loves me back.
Would you get a pet?
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 07:10 PM
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I think that having something to look forward to during the day might not work for some of us because we're more concerned with how we're feeling at the specific moment than having something enjoyable later in the day. At least that's why it wouldn't work for me.

If imagination doesn't work, you could set up some type of negative reinforcement that will only go away if you get out of bed?

I know that they have alarm clocks that are designed to be a pain in the *** to turn off, like the ones that run around your room or the ones that fly. The idea is, you'll want to turn off the alarm because it's annoying. And after you chase it down, you'll be fully awake and less likely to have to go back to bed.
And always set it to snooze, not off. Maybe the threat of it going off again is enough to make you get up.

Or
Make some type of commitment for an appointment in the morning that you have to check into in the morning. And there will be a punishment of some type if you don't make this appointment.

The first few days are the hardest because you need to build the habit

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Old Jan 15, 2016, 11:06 PM
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I think that having something to look forward to during the day might not work for some of us because we're more concerned with how we're feeling at the specific moment than having something enjoyable later in the day. At least that's why it wouldn't work for me.
I do need something to look forward to to be hyped/alert enough to get up but if I don't have to get up for it right away then that doesn't help. If it's something immediate to deal with then yes I will get alert right away and jump out of bed. I've tried talking to myself while lying in bed, listing things that I'm interested in that could get my attention to get alert, but most things just do not work for making me alert right there and then.

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If imagination doesn't work, you could set up some type of negative reinforcement that will only go away if you get out of bed?

I know that they have alarm clocks that are designed to be a pain in the *** to turn off, like the ones that run around your room or the ones that fly. The idea is, you'll want to turn off the alarm because it's annoying. And after you chase it down, you'll be fully awake and less likely to have to go back to bed.
And always set it to snooze, not off. Maybe the threat of it going off again is enough to make you get up.
I have tried having the snooze go on for hours. Not exaggerating. I would simply press snooze every time the alarm came back up and I just went back to sleep or went back to lying in bed (and eventually fall asleep again).

Sometimes I didn't even remember my pressing snooze/turning alarm off.

What is this alarm clock running around the room like? Say more on this?

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Make some type of commitment for an appointment in the morning that you have to check into in the morning. And there will be a punishment of some type if you don't make this appointment.
If I have an appointment in the morning, I get up just fine for it, no need for extra punishment, but I don't often have appointments.

I can't think of ideas on what sort of commitment I could have otherwise...?

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The first few days are the hardest because you need to build the habit
I already explained to you that this is not simply about habit building here.
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 11:09 PM
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There are drugs but none of them are legal. Not just amphetamines but things kids take for studying. Not a good idea - are you planning to take them all your life?
Not all my life, sure. If long term I can't re-enter society then I don't care anyway what way I'm vegetating. And if I do succesfully re-enter it, I won't need the drugs anymore. So in either case, the drugs would be a temporary solution only.

Thanks for that info though, I suspected that.

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I like sleeping too, and also work from home. What worked for me was getting a pet I love. Who needs to be fed and looked after. And loves me back.
Would you get a pet?
A pet is a nice idea but in this apartment not an option
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 11:44 PM
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Get a job that requires you to show up at a certain time? That's kind of like an appointment that you'll have every day
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 11:45 PM
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Example of alarm clock I was talking about:
http://www.amazon.com/Clocky-Alarm-C...ng+alarm+clock

Maybe if you always snooze this one instead of hitting "off" you'll decide that needing to chase this thing every 10 minutes is more annoying than just getting out of bed
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